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Jan 27, 2021 21:20:07 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 27, 2021 21:20:07 GMT
I fail to see how Ian and Mancot get away with what they post.
Especially when it's clearly bullying of an indirect nature.
Time for the moderating team to get serious about the off topic forum instead of largely ignoring it as long as it doesn't affect the match threads.
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Jan 27, 2021 22:03:41 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 27, 2021 22:03:41 GMT
I fail to see how Ian and Mancot get away with what they post. Especially when it's clearly bullying of an indirect nature. Time for the moderating team to get serious about the off topic forum instead of largely ignoring it as long as it doesn't affect the match threads. You’ve only started posting here again because I’ve just returned from a two-week ban. Your post is so full of holes it’s sinking faster than the Tories’ “titanic” Brexit deal. 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 27, 2021 22:11:46 GMT
You’ve only started posting here again because I’ve just returned from a two-week ban. Your post is so full of holes it’s sinking faster than the Tories’ “titanic” Brexit deal. 🤷🏻♂️ You are a bully, indirectly and directly. This place has been brilliant these last 2 weeks Brilliant? You need to get out more, widen your horizons.
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Post by everhopeful on Jan 27, 2021 23:00:13 GMT
The personal insults are starting up again, as are the complaints to the mods. You've proved that you can disagree relatively politely, so let's keep it up, stop falling out and save Si and the mods a bit of work! Also making remarks about other peoples' mental health are a no-no!
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Jan 27, 2021 23:08:50 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 27, 2021 23:08:50 GMT
The personal insults are starting up again, as are the complaints to the mods. You've proved that you can disagree relatively politely, so let's keep it up, stop falling out and save Si and the mods a bit of work! Also making remarks about other peoples' mental health are a no-no! Personal insults? Go on then, let's play the same game as usual everhopeful Provide evidence of me being insulting and ill willingly admit it. But make sure you delete all Ian and Mancots abusive and bullying posts so the other mods can't see how blinkered you are
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Post by everhopeful on Jan 27, 2021 23:17:05 GMT
Who accused ANYBODY??
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Jan 27, 2021 23:20:59 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 27, 2021 23:20:59 GMT
Why did you DELETE my posts then???
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Post by everhopeful on Jan 27, 2021 23:23:42 GMT
I deleted all the posts that repeated one about which we received complaints. Can I suggest that if we are to continue this discussion, we do it by PM rather than fill up the thread?
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Post by Si on Jan 27, 2021 23:28:22 GMT
Think of it as an unfriendly welcome back I hope Si remembered to buy the popcorn when he did his essential shop. Tbf it's been pretty dull on the off topic since Frank was sinbinned. Frank's back in the saddle, I've got a bag of sweet and salted, I'm strapped in for the ride. Welcome back Frank 😂
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Jan 27, 2021 23:28:32 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 27, 2021 23:28:32 GMT
I deleted all the posts that repeated one about which we received complaints. Can I suggest that if we are to continue this discussion, we do it by PM rather than fill up the thread? OK so I am not accused of wrong doing. So have you dealt with the users who were insulting as per the forum guidelines, or are you just brushing it under the carpet like you usually do with your late night deleting of posts? I'm fine to continue the discussion here, I think its important that your moderating style is known to all, instead of being hidden behind private messages
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 28, 2021 5:50:44 GMT
I deleted all the posts that repeated one about which we received complaints. Can I suggest that if we are to continue this discussion, we do it by PM rather than fill up the thread? OK so I am not accused of wrong doing. So have you dealt with the users who were insulting as per the forum guidelines, or are you just brushing it under the carpet like you usually do with your late night deleting of posts? I'm fine to continue the discussion here, I think its important that your moderating style is known to all, instead of being hidden behind private messages Nobody cares mate, it’s the Off-Topic Section of a football message board, not the Levenson Inquiry. Understand you like to make big deals of small issues, but try to retain a sense of perspective.
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Jan 28, 2021 8:50:41 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Jan 28, 2021 8:50:41 GMT
Anyone else not too impressed that at a time when we're asked to stay local and only make essential journeys, Boris Johnson is travelling from London to Scotland to make a political point about unionism?
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 28, 2021 10:35:49 GMT
In the interests of strict public health and safety Scotland should not be letting anybody in, not least the man who has willingly allowed over 100,000 citizens to die and is guilty of gross negligence at a minimum, perhaps even manslaughter - Boris The Butcher.
Surely all UK nations should be closing their internal borders unless for essential travel.
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Post by Si on Jan 28, 2021 10:59:17 GMT
What can Boris offer that can't be done over a virtual meeting? I don't think he's well thought of us there so it's not as if anyone will be getting a lift from his visit. Surely it's just best to follow the advice he's asking the nation to follow, and only make essential trips. Going to Scotland just to try and look good is not essential.
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Jan 28, 2021 12:36:42 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 28, 2021 12:36:42 GMT
I see the Nazi sympathiser/white supremacist-placating Sir Keith has literally become a parody of himself, telling LBC today what he tells the press and the public almost all the time about almost anything: “I’m with the Prime Minister on this one.”
Strong opposition x
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Jan 29, 2021 9:49:13 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 29, 2021 9:49:13 GMT
Not only are Wales vaccinating at a faster rate than the other three home nations but the rate of infections in Wales has dropped to its lowest level since the Welsh Government’s November firebreak. Good news on both fronts.
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Jan 29, 2021 10:01:30 GMT
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Post by cityboy5705 on Jan 29, 2021 10:01:30 GMT
I see the EU is being arsey with the vaccine rollout despite the fact that the UK has already paid for 25 million and has a legally binding obligation to have them supplied oh well take them to court and win the case and say have that EU beat them before and they will do it again
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Jan 29, 2021 10:15:32 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 29, 2021 10:15:32 GMT
I see the EU is being arsey with the vaccine rollout despite the fact that the UK has already paid for 25 million and has a legally binding obligation to have them supplied oh well take them to court and win the case and say have that EU beat them before and they will do it again The U.K. is no longer a member of the EU and opted out of the EU’s vaccination programme (as they did the PPE supply programme, to disastrous consequences). “You won, get over it.”
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Post by Lobster on Jan 29, 2021 11:28:23 GMT
One thing nobody really seems to be questioning in the seemingly impressive UK vaccine rollout is whether we may actually be rushing it. I see Germany is not confident enough research has been done on the AstraZeneca jab to administer it to over-65s. Unfortunately, this is fuel to the fire for vaccine sceptics.
Surely we'll only know who has handled the vaccine best when we see its effectiveness? At the risk of being called a sheep or whatever, I would still say it's best to do whatever scientists in your country are suggesting.
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Jan 29, 2021 11:50:48 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 29, 2021 11:50:48 GMT
Similarly I know of people, including health and social care staff and nursing home staff, who are reluctant to get a vaccine because not enough research has been carried out to rule out complications with other health issues later in life.
It’ll upset Upsanddowns judging by his prior comments about our incredible staff in nursing homes, but the fact of the matter is the vaccine is, rightly, not mandatory. I’ll be encouraging everyone I know to get vaccinated but, as above, there remain concerns about medical problems later down the line. I think infertility is one of the big issues to come out of these discussions, for example. Nobody should lose their right to have a child in the years to come but at the same time we want to protect the population from Covid strains. Difficult one.
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Jan 29, 2021 13:46:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2021 13:46:09 GMT
Similarly I know of people, including health and social care staff and nursing home staff, who are reluctant to get a vaccine because not enough research has been carried out to rule out complications with other health issues later in life. It’ll upset Upsanddowns judging by his prior comments about our incredible staff in nursing homes, but the fact of the matter is the vaccine is, rightly, not mandatory. I’ll be encouraging everyone I know to get vaccinated but, as above, there remain concerns about medical problems later down the line. I think infertility is one of the big issues to come out of these discussions, for example. Nobody should lose their right to have a child in the years to come but at the same time we want to protect the population from Covid strains. Difficult one. I think you missed my point. due to one person who refused the vaccine and later tested positive for covid the three members of staff on their shift who had been vaccinated including my daughter had to be tested. and missed the next shift while waiting for results. That was why I asked the question should people who refuse the vaccine be allowed back to work in care homes after testing positive
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Jan 29, 2021 15:00:02 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 29, 2021 15:00:02 GMT
Similarly I know of people, including health and social care staff and nursing home staff, who are reluctant to get a vaccine because not enough research has been carried out to rule out complications with other health issues later in life. It’ll upset Upsanddowns judging by his prior comments about our incredible staff in nursing homes, but the fact of the matter is the vaccine is, rightly, not mandatory. I’ll be encouraging everyone I know to get vaccinated but, as above, there remain concerns about medical problems later down the line. I think infertility is one of the big issues to come out of these discussions, for example. Nobody should lose their right to have a child in the years to come but at the same time we want to protect the population from Covid strains. Difficult one. I think you missed my point. due to one person who refused the vaccine and later tested positive for covid the three members of staff on their shift who had been vaccinated including my daughter had to be tested. and missed the next shift while waiting for results. That was why I asked the question should people who refuse the vaccine be allowed back to work in care homes after testing positive You’re right, I did gloss over that point. For some reason I thought you were suggesting all care home staff must be vaccinated.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jan 30, 2021 11:14:15 GMT
Do we agree with the WHO on this
The World Health Organisation is urging the UK to pause its vaccination programme once vulnerable groups have received their jabs to help ensure the global rollout is fair.
WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris said she wanted to appeal to people in the UK, telling them "you can wait", because ensuring equitable global distribution is "clearly morally the right thing to do".
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Jan 30, 2021 11:32:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 11:32:49 GMT
it is a difficult one to answer.i feel once we have got down to 60 year olds vaccinated..we should be in a much better position.we have not acctually blocked vaccines leaving the uk .and also contribute to world vaccimation .unlike our friends in europe who would like it all for themselves irrespective of where it is produced.so my answer is yes after all over 60s and vunerable people have been vaccinated.
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Jan 30, 2021 11:38:31 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 30, 2021 11:38:31 GMT
Do we agree with the WHO on this The World Health Organisation is urging the UK to pause its vaccination programme once vulnerable groups have received their jabs to help ensure the global rollout is fair. WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris said she wanted to appeal to people in the UK, telling them "you can wait", because ensuring equitable global distribution is "clearly morally the right thing to do". Yes I do agree, it is morally right to ensure as much of the world as possible has a defence against a killer virus. Currently it depends how rich you are, which is wrong.
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Post by Si on Jan 30, 2021 11:40:19 GMT
I'm all for getting the UK sorted. Selfish outlook I know, but I'm looking at Australia and New Zealand who have a much higher level or normality and it would be great to have that here.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jan 30, 2021 11:46:27 GMT
Do we agree with the WHO on this The World Health Organisation is urging the UK to pause its vaccination programme once vulnerable groups have received their jabs to help ensure the global rollout is fair. WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris said she wanted to appeal to people in the UK, telling them "you can wait", because ensuring equitable global distribution is "clearly morally the right thing to do". Yes I do agree, it is morally right to ensure as much of the world as possible has a defence against a killer virus. Currently it depends how rich you are, which is wrong. In which case who do you tell your going to have to wait and how do you detremine who is vunerable and who is not I beleive you have had your jab but do you have as much interaction with the general public as say supermarket employees and are you saying that they are not vunerable I would love to know where you would draw the line
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Jan 30, 2021 11:52:16 GMT
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jan 30, 2021 11:52:16 GMT
I'm all for getting the UK sorted. Selfish outlook I know, but I'm looking at Australia and New Zealand who have a much higher level or normality and it would be great to have that here. Absolutely. It seems crazy to pause our rollout at a particular point and keep ourselves in a sort of holding pattern while we wait for everyone else to catch up. I also think it would be increasingly hard to justify keeping damaging restrictions in place here when a continued vaccine rollout would hopefully assist in lifting them.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 30, 2021 11:59:26 GMT
Do we agree with the WHO on this The World Health Organisation is urging the UK to pause its vaccination programme once vulnerable groups have received their jabs to help ensure the global rollout is fair. WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris said she wanted to appeal to people in the UK, telling them "you can wait", because ensuring equitable global distribution is "clearly morally the right thing to do". Yes I do agree, it is morally right to ensure as much of the world as possible has a defence against a killer virus. Currently it depends how rich you are, which is wrong. If the tables were turned do you think the EU would stop vaccinating people in Germany and France so the UK could have some? Err, nope! My nan has had her vaccine and she hasn't got a pot to piss in, so again you're talking out your arse
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Jan 30, 2021 12:01:51 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 30, 2021 12:01:51 GMT
Yes I do agree, it is morally right to ensure as much of the world as possible has a defence against a killer virus. Currently it depends how rich you are, which is wrong. In which case who do you tell your going to have to wait and how do you detremine who is vunerable and who is not I beleive you have had your jab but do you have as much interaction with the general public as say supermarket employees and are you saying that they are not vunerable I would love to know where you would draw the line Personally speaking, I’ve had shielding letters all year and am classed as vulnerable due to a medical condition, also working in the NHS and having daily patient interaction doubles up on that risk. It’s difficult how to do it, but we need to ensure poorer countries aren’t being priced out of keeping their people alive - surely anybody can see that?! Then there’s the racist apartheid state of Israel who are refusing to vaccinate the people whose land they have stolen.
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