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Post by Wortleyblue on Jan 30, 2021 12:08:15 GMT
Yes I do agree, it is morally right to ensure as much of the world as possible has a defence against a killer virus. Currently it depends how rich you are, which is wrong. If the tables were turned do you think the EU would stop vaccinating people in Germany and France so the UK could have some? Err, nope! My nan has had her vaccine and she hasn't got a pot to piss in, so again you're talking out your arse Lets not forget the EU threatened to stop exports of the vaccine so they could keep them for themselves |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 30, 2021 12:08:51 GMT
Yes I do agree, it is morally right to ensure as much of the world as possible has a defence against a killer virus. Currently it depends how rich you are, which is wrong. If the tables were turned do you think the EU would stop vaccinating people in Germany and France so the UK could have some? Err, nope! My nan has had her vaccine and she hasn't got a pot to piss in, so again you're talking out your arse You know what I’m talking about, don’t act dim. Unless your nan lives in sub-Saharan Africa or Palestine, I do apologise. |
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jan 30, 2021 12:14:37 GMT
If the tables were turned do you think the EU would stop vaccinating people in Germany and France so the UK could have some? Err, nope! My nan has had her vaccine and she hasn't got a pot to piss in, so again you're talking out your arse Lets not forget the EU threatened to stop exports of the vaccine so they could keep them for themselves It's funny how the EU apologists on here got so angry about a trivial row over EU diplomats last week but have remained largely silent on the EU's unjustified antics this week. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 30, 2021 12:18:03 GMT
Lets not forget the EU threatened to stop exports of the vaccine so they could keep them for themselves It's funny how the EU apologists on here got so angry about a trivial row over EU diplomats last week but have remained largely silent on the EU's unjustified antics this week. Probably because it was an irrelevant point, seeing as the U.K. opted out of the EU’s vaccine rollout and is going it alone. Also, the US and the U.K. have both done the same thing - restricted exports of vaccines and drugs to prioritise their own people. Funny how the far right apologists on here have remained largely silent about that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 12:18:15 GMT
In which case who do you tell your going to have to wait and how do you detremine who is vunerable and who is not I beleive you have had your jab but do you have as much interaction with the general public as say supermarket employees and are you saying that they are not vunerable I would love to know where you would draw the line Personally speaking, I’ve had shielding letters all year and am classed as vulnerable due to a medical condition, also working in the NHS and having daily patient interaction doubles up on that risk. It’s difficult how to do it, but we need to ensure poorer countries aren’t being priced out of keeping their people alive - surely anybody can see that?! Then there’s the racist apartheid state of Israel who are refusing to vaccinate the people whose land they have stolen. looking at this from a British point of view we have the Oxford vaccine possibly the cheapest in the world. This is also being sold at non profit and is more suited to third world countries as it can be stored at fridge temperature. We will be in a position to increase supplies to other countries shortly but in the mean time we must ensure that we are not leaving ourselves open to a third or forth wave of covid. |
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jan 30, 2021 12:23:32 GMT
It's funny how the EU apologists on here got so angry about a trivial row over EU diplomats last week but have remained largely silent on the EU's unjustified antics this week. Probably because it was an irrelevant point, seeing as the U.K. opted out of the EU’s vaccine rollout and is going it alone. I'd hardly call trying to invoke article 16 'irrelevent'. It didn't look great. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 12:27:20 GMT
There’s so many political views on here behind a keyboard but wonder how many of you would actually enter politics or local councils to make a difference instead of venting on an off topic non league forum?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 12:35:32 GMT
It's funny how the EU apologists on here got so angry about a trivial row over EU diplomats last week but have remained largely silent on the EU's unjustified antics this week. Probably because it was an irrelevant point, seeing as the U.K. opted out of the EU’s vaccine rollout and is going it alone. Also, the US and the U.K. have both done the same thing - restricted exports of vaccines and drugs to prioritise their own people. Funny how the far right apologists on here have remained largely silent about that. can you give us the source that shows the UK is restricting supplies. It was only yesterday the EU authorised the use of the Oxford vaccine. We did place our order 3 months earlier than the EU. |
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Post by lincolnexile on Jan 30, 2021 13:03:26 GMT
In which case who do you tell your going to have to wait and how do you detremine who is vunerable and who is not I beleive you have had your jab but do you have as much interaction with the general public as say supermarket employees and are you saying that they are not vunerable I would love to know where you would draw the line Personally speaking, I’ve had shielding letters all year and am classed as vulnerable due to a medical condition, also working in the NHS and having daily patient interaction doubles up on that risk. It’s difficult how to do it, but we need to ensure poorer countries aren’t being priced out of keeping their people alive - surely anybody can see that?! Then there’s the racist apartheid state of Israel who are refusing to vaccinate the people whose land they have stolen. So where do you stand on people working in supermarkets, delivery drivers, teachers, police, etc... some of who may have underlying conditions such as diabetes, asthma, etc... you also have to take into account the fact that most people need a second dose. When do you suspend our roll out, when all the vulnerable have had one dose or two doses. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 30, 2021 13:13:54 GMT
There’s so many political views on here behind a keyboard but wonder how many of you would actually enter politics or local councils to make a difference instead of venting on an off topic non league forum? Do you also believe that none of us are allowed an opinion on the club, team, managers, players? |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Jan 30, 2021 13:31:23 GMT
The very nature of this virus is global though, so I'm not completely sure racing to vaccinate people in particular countries is all that useful. The UK won't be able to go back to complete normality if places like France, Italy and the USA are still ravaged with the virus. And the more prevalent it is, the more likely it is that variants develop. All it takes is for one variant to be vaccine-resistant and unless that variant is successfully isolated in the host country (good luck with that if the Chinese couldn't manage it) then the whole world is effectively back to square one.
All things considered, I'm pretty pessimistic about any form of normality returning for a long time but I genuinely do hope I'm wrong.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 30, 2021 14:40:52 GMT
If the tables were turned do you think the EU would stop vaccinating people in Germany and France so the UK could have some? Err, nope! My nan has had her vaccine and she hasn't got a pot to piss in, so again you're talking out your arse You know what I’m talking about, don’t act dim. Unless your nan lives in sub-Saharan Africa or Palestine, I do apologise. So pharma companies should research and manufacture expensive vaccines and give them away should they? You live in the clouds, but no surprise there, you are generally clueless when it comes to reality |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 30, 2021 14:42:32 GMT
You know what I’m talking about, don’t act dim. Unless your nan lives in sub-Saharan Africa or Palestine, I do apologise. So pharma companies should research and manufacture expensive vaccines and give them away should they? You live in the clouds, but no surprise there, you are generally clueless when it comes to reality So Third World nations should just die of a killer virus should they? At least I don’t live in your “reality”! Big pharma don’t do what they do for the good of helping the population live longer. They do it to rinse the world and line their pockets. Your above posts proves this point. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jan 30, 2021 14:47:13 GMT
So pharma companies should research and manufacture expensive vaccines and give them away should they? You live in the clouds, but no surprise there, you are generally clueless when it comes to reality So Third World nations should just die of a killer virus should they? At least I don’t live in your “reality”! What are the death stats from third world countries again? Handling it better than us, so what's the problem? |
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Post by Lobster on Jan 30, 2021 15:10:50 GMT
The EU are being dicks about the vaccine, I think that's certainly true.
The EU aren't great. They're still better than our government though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 15:23:43 GMT
So pharma companies should research and manufacture expensive vaccines and give them away should they? You live in the clouds, but no surprise there, you are generally clueless when it comes to reality So Third World nations should just die of a killer virus should they? At least I don’t live in your “reality”! Big pharma don’t do what they do for the good of helping the population live longer. They do it to rinse the world and line their pockets. Your above posts proves this point. this sounds like a 30 something year old who has already had the vaccine so we can now give it away. Your mother your father or any member of your family, or someone in another country. Honest answers only. |
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Post by Lobster on Jan 30, 2021 15:35:28 GMT
So Third World nations should just die of a killer virus should they? At least I don’t live in your “reality”! Big pharma don’t do what they do for the good of helping the population live longer. They do it to rinse the world and line their pockets. Your above posts proves this point. this sounds like a 30 something year old who has already had the vaccine so we can now give it away. Your mother your father or any member of your family, or someone in another country. Honest answers only. Why has it got to be one or the other? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 15:47:43 GMT
this sounds like a 30 something year old who has already had the vaccine so we can now give it away. Your mother your father or any member of your family, or someone in another country. Honest answers only. Why has it got to be one or the other? because we don't have enough. But we will have. Do you honestly think any country would give to another before looking after their own. It won't happen. |
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Post by cityboy5705 on Jan 31, 2021 8:26:23 GMT
I see cruella Der vil has caved in and the UK will be getting vaccine rollout after all and with Germany and France fighting the UK is on its merry way to its vaccination target
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Post by cityboy5705 on Jan 31, 2021 8:28:41 GMT
The EU are being dicks about the vaccine, I think that's certainly true. The EU aren't great. They're still better than our government though. debatable that with them two idiots in charge in Germany and France the lose there powers both them will be out the EU so that would be the end |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 8:09:16 GMT
Almost 9 (nine) million vaccine doses administered, 6 (six) hundred thousand in one day. Well done to every one involved it is a fantastic effort, and thanks to borris and matt for financing the Oxford research and placing prepaid orders for the vaccine. Credit were credit is due.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 1, 2021 8:15:29 GMT
Great work from Mark and Vaughan to ensure Wales has the highest rolling vaccine per head rate in the U.K. AND the lowest Covid case rate of infections despite central Westminster government controlling the amount of vaccines the devolved nations can receive.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 8:25:11 GMT
Great work from Mark and Vaughan to ensure Wales has the highest rolling vaccine per head rate in the U.K. AND the lowest Covid case rate of infections despite central Westminster government controlling the amount of vaccines the devolved nations can receive. still not received any dates for vaccination and plenty others in Buckley. Did you get your vaccination in england |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 1, 2021 10:12:12 GMT
Didn’t say they’ve vaccinated everybody; just that Wales has the highest rolling rate of vaccinations per head of all the four home nations. Pretty good going considering they rely on Westminster for supply.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Feb 1, 2021 10:19:51 GMT
Didn’t say they’ve vaccinated everybody; just that Wales has the highest rolling rate of vaccinations per head of all the four home nations. Pretty good going considering they rely on Westminster for supply. Just goes to show how good Westminster has been in ensuring we have enough vaccine to supply all 4 home nations |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 11:08:00 GMT
Can you imagine how many would have been vaccinated if we had to rely on the e u.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Feb 1, 2021 11:10:10 GMT
Didn’t say they’ve vaccinated everybody; just that Wales has the highest rolling rate of vaccinations per head of all the four home nations. Pretty good going considering they rely on Westminster for supply. How very nationalistic of you. I thought socialists cared for the many not the few? |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 1, 2021 11:23:06 GMT
Not really sure how you misread my post; I was just stating a simple fact about the number of vaccinations. Nothing mentioned about not caring for people.
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Post by superman on Feb 1, 2021 11:30:04 GMT
Great work from Mark and Vaughan to ensure Wales has the highest rolling vaccine per head rate in the U.K. AND the lowest Covid case rate of infections despite central Westminster government controlling the amount of vaccines the devolved nations can receive. Merely a snap shot in time, a couple of weeks earlier the opposite was probably the case. These things will ebb and flow largely due to differences in demographics and population densities. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Feb 1, 2021 11:52:02 GMT
Not really sure how you misread my post; I was just stating a simple fact about the number of vaccinations. Nothing mentioned about not caring for people. You are championing 1 nation over the others, sorry if I've highlighted your selfishness |
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