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Post by lincolnexile on Mar 12, 2021 14:00:39 GMT
You Tim Nice But Dim’s need to make up your minds - are you the party of business or not? Come on even you must admit that opening hairdressers but not clothes shops is a strange one.
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Post by arthuro on Mar 12, 2021 14:29:29 GMT
You Tim Nice But Dim’s need to make up your minds - are you the party of business or not? Come on even you must admit that opening hairdressers but not clothes shops is a strange one. Welsh Labour are inflicting death by a thousand cuts to small businesses but “Frank” is far too thick and blinkered to realise that. The change of stance on supermarket selling in today’s briefing shows this.
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Post by jedthehumanoid on Mar 12, 2021 14:44:55 GMT
You Tim Nice But Dim’s need to make up your minds - are you the party of business or not? Come on even you must admit that opening hairdressers but not clothes shops is a strange one. I think the hairdresser thing is based on them being assessed as low risk. They're appointment only and there's no waiting allowed inside. In the barbers I go to that means 4 people at any one time inside. Sanitising each chair/equipment in between appointments, keeping the shop ventilated, barber and customer wearing a mask and taking contactless payments means it does seem pretty low risk really. Clothes shops on the other hand will have a lot more mingling/touching of stuff so I can see how they came to that conclusion.
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Post by lincolnexile on Mar 12, 2021 14:57:44 GMT
Come on even you must admit that opening hairdressers but not clothes shops is a strange one. I think the hairdresser thing is based on them being assessed as low risk. They're appointment only and there's no waiting allowed inside. In the barbers I go to that means 4 people at any one time inside. Sanitising each chair/equipment in between appointments, keeping the shop ventilated, barber and customer wearing a mask and taking contactless payments means it does seem pretty low risk really. Clothes shops on the other hand will have a lot more mingling/touching of stuff so I can see how they came to that conclusion. Fair points. Still think other retailers in Wales, not allowed to open, will be a little bit upset.
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Post by jedthehumanoid on Mar 12, 2021 15:23:51 GMT
I think the hairdresser thing is based on them being assessed as low risk. They're appointment only and there's no waiting allowed inside. In the barbers I go to that means 4 people at any one time inside. Sanitising each chair/equipment in between appointments, keeping the shop ventilated, barber and customer wearing a mask and taking contactless payments means it does seem pretty low risk really. Clothes shops on the other hand will have a lot more mingling/touching of stuff so I can see how they came to that conclusion. Fair points. Still think other retailers in Wales, not allowed to open, will be a little bit upset. Definitely, especially as a lot of the chatter beforehand seemed to be that more retail than just hairdressers/barbers that would be open from Monday. I think some of it is morale boosting too - they probably would have liked to hold off a couple of more weeks but once they'd mentioned it they had to open something. So everyone goes for a haircut, feels a bit better and it tides them over for a couple of weeks until more things open up. It's over 3 months since I've had my hair cut and I'm chuffed to be able to go on Monday - I've nearly taken the clippers to it a few times already.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 12, 2021 15:28:32 GMT
I think the hairdresser thing is based on them being assessed as low risk. They're appointment only and there's no waiting allowed inside. In the barbers I go to that means 4 people at any one time inside. Sanitising each chair/equipment in between appointments, keeping the shop ventilated, barber and customer wearing a mask and taking contactless payments means it does seem pretty low risk really. Clothes shops on the other hand will have a lot more mingling/touching of stuff so I can see how they came to that conclusion. Fair points. Still think other retailers in Wales, not allowed to open, will be a little bit upset. A little bit upset is preferable to dying of Covid. Makes sense to slowly ease restrictions and slowly relax things and see how it goes - rather than reckless decisions like opening all pubs bars and clubs at once etc.
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Post by lincolnexile on Mar 12, 2021 15:51:53 GMT
Fair points. Still think other retailers in Wales, not allowed to open, will be a little bit upset. Definitely, especially as a lot of the chatter beforehand seemed to be that more retail than just hairdressers/barbers that would be open from Monday. I think some of it is morale boosting too - they probably would have liked to hold off a couple of more weeks but once they'd mentioned it they had to open something. So everyone goes for a haircut, feels a bit better and it tides them over for a couple of weeks until more things open up. It's over 3 months since I've had my hair cut and I'm chuffed to be able to go on Monday - I've nearly taken the clippers to it a few times already. I wonder how many people will be popping over the border in Saltney for a crafty trim?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 15:55:51 GMT
I honestly can't remember when I last went to a barbers for a hair cut, I'm guessing at least 25 years ago. When my hair gets unruly I cut it down to a number 1 then let it grow out and repeat. My dad used to say the difference between a good haircut and a bad one is about 2 weeks.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 12, 2021 18:23:35 GMT
WG are providing a further £150mn to businesses affected by the restrictions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 18:46:09 GMT
A lot of unhappy people on the news this evening. All supermarkets can sell goods that specialist shops can't. Clothes tools paint shoes. You name it. They have been open right through the pandemic and made massive profits. Somehow doesn't seem right.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 12, 2021 18:52:00 GMT
Perhaps some of the independent shops could’ve used their initiative during lockdown - I’ve used a lot of local independent retailers thanks to the power of social media and thinking outside the box. There’s a pub in Mold that has been doing click and collect throughout, for example.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 19:02:33 GMT
Having a drink is the last thing on my mind, but you can buy that in supermarkets, there lots of smaller shops that people like to see the goods before they buy. Craft shops, haberdashery. You know the type of shop my wife uses for a few buttons, wool or couple of yards of ribbon. I don't think these shops would benefit from selling on line. Any way it is what it is, I just don't think the small retailer has had a good deal.
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Post by lincolnexile on Mar 12, 2021 19:09:52 GMT
A lot of unhappy people on the news this evening. All supermarkets can sell goods that specialist shops can't. Clothes tools paint shoes. You name it. They have been open right through the pandemic and made massive profits. Somehow doesn't seem right. Unfortunately it was always going to happen, supermarkets have seized the opportunity to take advantage of others misfortune. I’m working in Leighton Buzzard and the Tesco there has totally changed it’s layout so it can maximize its clothing sales.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Mar 12, 2021 19:30:37 GMT
WG are providing a further £150mn to businesses affected by the restrictions. Is that coming out of the shortfall payments supplied by central goverment or is it being diverted from somewhere else
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 12, 2021 19:54:34 GMT
Having a drink is the last thing on my mind, but you can buy that in supermarkets, there lots of smaller shops that people like to see the goods before they buy. Craft shops, haberdashery. You know the type of shop my wife uses for a few buttons, wool or couple of yards of ribbon. I don't think these shops would benefit from selling on line. Any way it is what it is, I just don't think the small retailer has had a good deal. Suppose that’s where the relief fund comes in to it. Sad thing is the massive supermarket chains will maximise the opportunity - they provide essential goods but happen to also provide what you’d deem “non-essential” at the same time. Thought all you Tory boys would be fine with this - it’s capitalism, market forces, the free market etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 20:35:43 GMT
I don't have problem with them selling stuff. But I do have a problem when the independants are not allowed to open while supermarkets are allowed to steal their trade completely un hindered. Well thought out first minister.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 12, 2021 20:45:27 GMT
I don't have problem with them selling stuff. But I do have a problem when the independants are not allowed to open while supermarkets are allowed to steal their trade completely un hindered. Starting to sound like a far left Marxist extremist here pal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 20:48:54 GMT
Sorry I haven't a scoobie what you talking about.but I don't suppose it's something nice.
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Post by lincolnexile on Mar 12, 2021 20:49:10 GMT
I don't have problem with them selling stuff. But I do have a problem when the independants are not allowed to open while supermarkets are allowed to steal their trade completely un hindered. Well thought out first minister. The only way to make it fair would have been to make the supermarkets strip out all the non essential items. Maybe that’s what should have happened.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 12, 2021 20:50:23 GMT
I don't have problem with them selling stuff. But I do have a problem when the independants are not allowed to open while supermarkets are allowed to steal their trade completely un hindered. Well thought out first minister. The only way to make it fair would have been to make the supermarkets strip out all the non essential items. Maybe that’s what should have happened. They were cordoned off for large parts of last summer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 21:00:45 GMT
Yes I know. But they won't be Tomorrow. I thought you were the champion of the underdog
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 12, 2021 21:01:10 GMT
I am, just pointing out the rank hypocrisy of some of you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 21:10:15 GMT
Oh I see, so you own empathy.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 15, 2021 12:41:55 GMT
Ireland are the latest on an increasing list of nations to suspend the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine due to blood clot concerns.
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Post by jedthehumanoid on Mar 15, 2021 13:28:12 GMT
Ireland are the latest on an increasing list of nations to suspend the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine due to blood clot concerns. Apparently the clots are no more prevalent in people who've had the jab than they are in the general population - seems much ado about nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 14:16:18 GMT
Ireland are the latest on an increasing list of nations to suspend the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine due to blood clot concerns. Apparently the clots are no more prevalent in people who've had the jab than they are in the general population - seems much ado about nothing. w h o states there are no concerns and no proof vaccine causes blood clots and all nations should continue to use it.
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Post by lincolnexile on Mar 15, 2021 15:15:25 GMT
Had my first jab today. Had the AstraZeneca.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 15, 2021 15:28:05 GMT
Germany have announced suspension too now, three days after dismissing the blood clot concerns.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2021 15:49:00 GMT
According to a z 17 million doses administered in UK and EU. And fewer than 40 cases of blood clots reported. Apparently people get blood lots even if they don't receive vaccination.
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Post by jedthehumanoid on Mar 15, 2021 16:12:49 GMT
Germany have announced suspension too now, three days after dismissing the blood clot concerns. If I was being cynical I might suggest this is a convenient excuse for their slow vaccine rollout. If I was being cynical that is...
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