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Post by iandychesterfc on Jan 20, 2022 10:01:36 GMT
Whether the science backs it up or not, the issue is that in my experience since Plan B came into place is that there hasn't been a great deal of compliance in following the rules. That could be down to people being weary of it and would rather get on with living their lives as they want, or possibly defiance at the government for not following the rules themselves. Either way, I'd question the point in having restrictions if many don't follow them. A popularity stunt it may be as part of Operation Big Dog or whatever shit it's called, but it's back to continuing to make your own personal choices on what you feel is safe and appropriate. This is it, it's of course well-timed but i dont think it is wrong to remove the mandatory elements (with punishments - jokes aside) given where we are at with the pandemic. Omicron is hopefully the beginning of the end. |
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Post by arthuro on Jan 20, 2022 19:35:12 GMT
Whether the science backs it up or not, the issue is that in my experience since Plan B came into place is that there hasn't been a great deal of compliance in following the rules. That could be down to people being weary of it and would rather get on with living their lives as they want, or possibly defiance at the government for not following the rules themselves. Either way, I'd question the point in having restrictions if many don't follow them. A popularity stunt it may be as part of Operation Big Dog or whatever shit it's called, but it's back to continuing to make your own personal choices on what you feel is safe and appropriate. This is it, it's of course well-timed but i dont think it is wrong to remove the mandatory elements (with punishments - jokes aside) given where we are at with the pandemic. Omicron is hopefully the beginning of the end. Still got a load of people dying each day and high hospital admissions and yet the Eton bottom set want to remove restrictions. We still need to protect the vulnerable in society and if that means wearing a mask and having a jab then I’m in. Last people I will listen to are this group of clowns in charge. |
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Post by Lobster on Jan 20, 2022 19:54:32 GMT
Whether the science backs it up or not, the issue is that in my experience since Plan B came into place is that there hasn't been a great deal of compliance in following the rules. That could be down to people being weary of it and would rather get on with living their lives as they want, or possibly defiance at the government for not following the rules themselves. Either way, I'd question the point in having restrictions if many don't follow them. A popularity stunt it may be as part of Operation Big Dog or whatever shit it's called, but it's back to continuing to make your own personal choices on what you feel is safe and appropriate. I notice it getting the trains. When mask wearing is mandatory I reckon about 80% wear them on trains and 20% don't. When it becomes optional I'd say it's more like the other way round. As far as I know, all "Plan B" really was was wear a mask indoors and work from home if you can. My work have had me coming in one day a week in a compromise that doesn't really make much sense. There's no reason why I can't work from home all the time. I have a theory that managers feel they have to make their staff's jobs at least a little bit unpleasant and inconvenient even when there's no point in doing so! |
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Post by Si on Jan 21, 2022 10:27:16 GMT
Whether the science backs it up or not, the issue is that in my experience since Plan B came into place is that there hasn't been a great deal of compliance in following the rules. That could be down to people being weary of it and would rather get on with living their lives as they want, or possibly defiance at the government for not following the rules themselves. Either way, I'd question the point in having restrictions if many don't follow them. A popularity stunt it may be as part of Operation Big Dog or whatever shit it's called, but it's back to continuing to make your own personal choices on what you feel is safe and appropriate. I notice it getting the trains. When mask wearing is mandatory I reckon about 80% wear them on trains and 20% don't. When it becomes optional I'd say it's more like the other way round. As far as I know, all "Plan B" really was was wear a mask indoors and work from home if you can. My work have had me coming in one day a week in a compromise that doesn't really make much sense. There's no reason why I can't work from home all the time. I have a theory that managers feel they have to make their staff's jobs at least a little bit unpleasant and inconvenient even when there's no point in doing so! I go in one day a week too. But I actually enjoy it. I think there's the mental benefits to consider rather than always working in isolation at home etc. |
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Post by iandychesterfc on Jan 21, 2022 11:02:39 GMT
This is it, it's of course well-timed but i dont think it is wrong to remove the mandatory elements (with punishments - jokes aside) given where we are at with the pandemic. Omicron is hopefully the beginning of the end. Still got a load of people dying each day and high hospital admissions and yet the Eton bottom set want to remove restrictions. We still need to protect the vulnerable in society and if that means wearing a mask and having a jab then I’m in. Last people I will listen to are this group of clowns in charge. Thats the point Arthur, removing mandatory restrictions and letting people make their own decisions on what they feel is appropriate. We will never get to zero covid deaths, this has to be accepted. |
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Post by arthuro on Jan 22, 2022 11:32:58 GMT
Still got a load of people dying each day and high hospital admissions and yet the Eton bottom set want to remove restrictions. We still need to protect the vulnerable in society and if that means wearing a mask and having a jab then I’m in. Last people I will listen to are this group of clowns in charge. Thats the point Arthur, removing mandatory restrictions and letting people make their own decisions on what they feel is appropriate. We will never get to zero covid deaths, this has to be accepted. Unfortunately we live in a selfish society and none more so than in Downing St, so we need to keep some restrictions to protect the vulnerable otherwise they will be too scared to go out. Nothing wrong with wearing a mask in an indoor environment and in my own opinion those who don’t look a scruff. It seems this shower in the government are now making it survival of the fittest. |
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Post by Lobster on Jan 23, 2022 9:26:36 GMT
Once again Jacinda Ardern shows the world how to lead by cancelling her wedding amid a Covid spike. Contrast that with the culture of our government.
She's just a kind, sensible and pleasant person. I don't understand why so much of the world has decided we can't have leaders like that.
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Post by Lobster on Jan 24, 2022 21:28:17 GMT
Aaaaaand he had a birthday party as well. While children didn't.
Get him out, for god's sake!
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Post by Lobster on Jan 25, 2022 7:38:09 GMT
By this stage, even sycophants like Nadine Dorries can't offer a better argument than 10 minutes with cake isn't technically a "party". Totally irrelevant what you want to call it, it was against the rules and when they're reduced to quibbling over the nuances of what a party is, it's a sure sign they're losing. My daughter didn't have a 5th birthday party that year, and she understood why she couldn't. Let's not forget the rules were there for a reason and breaking them was not only selfish, but stupid as well.
If he doesn't go there should be serious nationwide protests.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Jan 25, 2022 8:50:19 GMT
The big chimp and his cronies must be the only people in the Western world hoping that Putin drives his tanks into Ukraine.
Nothing like a good distraction to take the heat off.
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Post by lincolnexile on Jan 25, 2022 8:59:21 GMT
Maybe they need to clarify how long a 'get together' needs to be for before it can be classified as a party. After all Boris was only at a cheese and wine evening for 25 minutes, so that wasn't a party in his opinion, and his birthday get together was only 10 minutes so that wasn't a party either apparently. So how long time wise is a party?
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 28, 2022 8:32:49 GMT
Looks like a massive cover up is happening before our eyes. The stench of corruption is overwhelming.
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Jan 28, 2022 12:47:32 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Jan 28, 2022 12:47:32 GMT
Suddenly it's not so surprising that Boris Johnson "welcomed" a police investigation.
This government are many things, but they are not stupid, in my opinion. They are nasty and manipulative, and they fool and outwit the general public time and time again. More dangerous than Trump and Bolsanero in many ways, as those two are just idiots.
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Jan 28, 2022 13:28:53 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 28, 2022 13:28:53 GMT
This country is being fucked by a Johnson and a Dick.
And most of the population are bending over and taking it.
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Post by Lobster on Jan 28, 2022 13:51:52 GMT
Given some people thought the report would be a "Greywash", is it now a "Dickwash"?
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Post by avfo on Jan 29, 2022 1:17:22 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Jan 29, 2022 10:02:09 GMT
Is there any kind of protest or demonstration march planned? I can see a few suggestions on Twitter etc but nothing much seems to be gathering pace.
We seem a worn down country these days without even the energy to get properly angry.
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Post by Moltisanti on Jan 29, 2022 10:39:25 GMT
Is there any kind of protest or demonstration march planned? I can see a few suggestions on Twitter etc but nothing much seems to be gathering pace. We seem a worn down country these days without even the energy to get properly angry. The French have more balls that this country these days, that says it all. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 29, 2022 11:40:29 GMT
Is there any kind of protest or demonstration march planned? I can see a few suggestions on Twitter etc but nothing much seems to be gathering pace. We seem a worn down country these days without even the energy to get properly angry. I’d say not enough people care, in fact. The country elected a fascist regime with a massive majority and for all the talk of the Corbyn “cult” his support was largely borne from the policies of improving the lives of ordinary people, whereas if you look at Johnson’s supporters it’s heavily centred on him and his “personality” and nothing else - I’d say that’s cultish behaviour. As for the stuff going on with the Met - given their long history of corruption and cover-ups we shouldn’t be surprised. Certainly makes you feel that ACAB. |
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Post by Lobster on Jan 29, 2022 12:12:49 GMT
Is there any kind of protest or demonstration march planned? I can see a few suggestions on Twitter etc but nothing much seems to be gathering pace. We seem a worn down country these days without even the energy to get properly angry. The French have more balls that this country these days, that says it all. I think they have long have, myself. If the accusation is fair that they were too passive during WWII (a period before most Brits living now were born, but still like to take credit for), they've learned from it since.
Of course, I am part of the problem. I'm hardly out there trying organise a protest. I'm hoping someone else does it.
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Post by Moltisanti on Jan 29, 2022 13:19:18 GMT
The French have more balls that this country these days, that says it all. I think they have long have, myself. If the accusation is fair that they were too passive during WWII (a period before most Brits living now were born, but still like to take credit for), they've learned from it since.
Of course, I am part of the problem. I'm hardly out there trying organise a protest. I'm hoping someone else does it.
Gary Neville tried to and failed I think. |
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Post by avfo on Jan 31, 2022 14:46:55 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Jan 31, 2022 17:57:11 GMT
Good on her. She's unfairly been treated as a bit of a ridiculous figure in this whole ordeal, and used by the Tories as a timewasting and misdirectional tactic. To her credit, she's stuck to her guns. |
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Post by Lobster on Jan 31, 2022 20:12:29 GMT
Can anyone explain to me why in the House of Commons you're not allowed to say someone has lied (even when they demonstrably have) but you are allowed to throw in the name of a paedophile just to change the subject?
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 31, 2022 21:12:05 GMT
I stand with Ian Blackford.
Absolute fucking circus that place is.
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Post by Lobster on Jan 31, 2022 21:28:12 GMT
And also how come every time the government is on the ropes we seem to get "news" about the Madeleine McCann case at the same time?
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Post by eyeswideopen on Feb 1, 2022 7:31:57 GMT
The Met Police asking Sue Gray not to include any investigations by them in her report as it may prejudice any future prosecutions is scandalous.
They had their own offices on the gates of Downing Street allowing party goers to walk past them with suitcases full of booze.
Its like them handing you the keys to your car when you are pissed, telling you its ok to drive and then pulling you up further down the road, but simply taking the keys off you and telling you to walk the rest and not tell anyone.
Although KS did a decent job of smacking Johnsons arse, he solely focused on his feeble apology instead of taking Blackford's lead and going with the misleading of the House angle.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 1, 2022 7:42:17 GMT
Blackford should've said "I can't say he isn't a liar, because that would be lying, which is a serious offence in the House of Commons".
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Post by Ian H Block on Feb 1, 2022 7:59:49 GMT
The Met Police asking Sue Gray not to include any investigations by them in her report as it may prejudice any future prosecutions is scandalous. They had their own offices on the gates of Downing Street allowing party goers to walk past them with suitcases full of booze. Its like them handing you the keys to your car when you are pissed, telling you its ok to drive and then pulling you up further down the road, but simply taking the keys off you and telling you to walk the rest and not tell anyone. Although KS did a decent job of smacking Johnsons arse, he solely focused on his feeble apology instead of taking Blackford's lead and going with the misleading of the House angle. Reassuring to hear that Cressida Dick’s wife and Sajid Javid’s brother will be leading the police investigation. |
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Post by luke90 on Feb 1, 2022 10:42:52 GMT
The Met Police asking Sue Gray not to include any investigations by them in her report as it may prejudice any future prosecutions is scandalous. They had their own offices on the gates of Downing Street allowing party goers to walk past them with suitcases full of booze. Its like them handing you the keys to your car when you are pissed, telling you its ok to drive and then pulling you up further down the road, but simply taking the keys off you and telling you to walk the rest and not tell anyone. Although KS did a decent job of smacking Johnsons arse, he solely focused on his feeble apology instead of taking Blackford's lead and going with the misleading of the House angle. What would you want the police to do though? I guess if people are on a list of those allowed in, they can't refuse them. I'm surprised no kind of searches were done though saying that. Brining a suitcase into a restricted area would have raised alarm bells and the contents should have been screened before it was allowed through the gates, surely! |
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