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Feb 1, 2022 11:29:53 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 1, 2022 11:29:53 GMT
No they can’t refuse them, because they’re all part of the same corruption - and anyone surprised about the developments of the Met this week should probably read up on their history.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Feb 1, 2022 15:45:42 GMT
The Met Police asking Sue Gray not to include any investigations by them in her report as it may prejudice any future prosecutions is scandalous. They had their own offices on the gates of Downing Street allowing party goers to walk past them with suitcases full of booze. Its like them handing you the keys to your car when you are pissed, telling you its ok to drive and then pulling you up further down the road, but simply taking the keys off you and telling you to walk the rest and not tell anyone. Although KS did a decent job of smacking Johnsons arse, he solely focused on his feeble apology instead of taking Blackford's lead and going with the misleading of the House angle. What would you want the police to do though? I guess if people are on a list of those allowed in, they can't refuse them. I'm surprised no kind of searches were done though saying that. Brining a suitcase into a restricted area would have raised alarm bells and the contents should have been screened before it was allowed through the gates, surely! Maybe, just maybe do some proper Police work. Like asking the said person(s) what evidence they have to walk through the gates they are supposed to be patrolling? They were not all well known front benchers who went to these parties. Pretty sure it wont be just a photo badge on a lanyard that gets you through their cordon, you must have some evidence of an invitation to get into No 10. "Heres mine, its an email that says to bring your own booze" should get anyone's suspicions up. Especially at a time when i could only see 15 people at my Father in laws funeral and not even have a proper have a wake for him. As i have said previously this is the worst PM leading the worst Government in my lifetime.
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Feb 21, 2022 13:04:11 GMT
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Post by arthuro on Feb 21, 2022 13:04:11 GMT
Once again Jacinda Ardern shows the world how to lead by cancelling her wedding amid a Covid spike. Contrast that with the culture of our government. She's just a kind, sensible and pleasant person. I don't understand why so much of the world has decided we can't have leaders like that. Whilst our PM basically says let the virus rip through the country in a weeks time. Survival of the fittest now everyone. Good luck.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 21, 2022 16:07:55 GMT
Once again Jacinda Ardern shows the world how to lead by cancelling her wedding amid a Covid spike. Contrast that with the culture of our government. She's just a kind, sensible and pleasant person. I don't understand why so much of the world has decided we can't have leaders like that. Whilst our PM basically says let the virus rip through the country in a weeks time. Survival of the fittest now everyone. Good luck. Probably is time to move on, although I don't agree with scrapping the free tests. But ultimately, every decision this government make is about Boris Johnson trying to be a hero and nothing else. I bet he's loving all this Ukraine stuff - takes the heat off him and gives him a chance to look like the good guy.
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Post by arthuro on Feb 21, 2022 18:43:59 GMT
Whilst our PM basically says let the virus rip through the country in a weeks time. Survival of the fittest now everyone. Good luck. Probably is time to move on, although I don't agree with scrapping the free tests. But ultimately, every decision this government make is about Boris Johnson trying to be a hero and nothing else. I bet he's loving all this Ukraine stuff - takes the heat off him and gives him a chance to look like the good guy. Not sure how the country can move on with an average of 300 deaths a day and thousands of infections.
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Feb 21, 2022 20:31:21 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 21, 2022 20:31:21 GMT
“Learn to live with it” just means “forget it exists”.
Sad to see the official LOTO (in name only) pretty much agreeing with it too.
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Feb 22, 2022 8:06:11 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 22, 2022 8:06:11 GMT
We’re back to 1930s pre-NHS where your healthcare depends on your income. People are being asked to “do the right thing” whilst free tests are being scrapped and statutory sick pay is 19%.
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Feb 22, 2022 9:00:11 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Feb 22, 2022 9:00:11 GMT
Probably is time to move on, although I don't agree with scrapping the free tests. But ultimately, every decision this government make is about Boris Johnson trying to be a hero and nothing else. I bet he's loving all this Ukraine stuff - takes the heat off him and gives him a chance to look like the good guy. Not sure how the country can move on with an average of 300 deaths a day and thousands of infections. It's not the only thing people are dying of though. There's a huge cancer treatment backlog for a start. I spoke to an NHS worker recently who said we need to remember that people are still getting ill in the usual ways and we can't forget about them. I've said a few times on this thread about the mental health toll I've observed. I feel like Covid has added years on all of us, and it's horrendous for people with conditions like OCD. I know it's not easy but I think we need to look at how to come to some sort of end with this. But yes, charging for tests is stupid and cruel, and the government's response throughout the pandemic has always been one of greed, which is why a populist far-right government of rich boys is a real kakistocracy at a time like this. I also worry what are we doing to stop something like his happening again. As population grows and we all travel more, there will be more and more corner-cutting as we look to cater to a global population expected to reach nearly 10 billion by 2050, all of which makes pandemics more likely.
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Feb 22, 2022 10:48:16 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Feb 22, 2022 10:48:16 GMT
Not sure how the country can move on with an average of 300 deaths a day and thousands of infections. It's not the only thing people are dying of though. There's a huge cancer treatment backlog for a start. I spoke to an NHS worker recently who said we need to remember that people are still getting ill in the usual ways and we can't forget about them. People need to get it into their heads that those other illnesses and cancer etc can’t be treated if hospitals are overwhelmed with Covid patients becuase the bloke running the country wants us all to forget it exists and “let the bodies pile high in their thousands.”
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Post by Si on Feb 22, 2022 12:37:24 GMT
Probably no point in having the restrictions anyway.....the more considerate folk in society will isolate whether told to or not, in the same way you wouldnt go and visit your nan if you had the flu etc. There will be plenty that can't be arsed isolating regardless of what they are told to, so can't see the point in trying to impose something that can't be policed. I disagree with ending free testing....charging people to find out whether they have a contageus disease or not whilst it's still circulating seems dangerously short sighted. I still test myself weekly but will I do that once my free tests run out and I have to pay? Probably not.
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Feb 23, 2022 10:38:46 GMT
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Feb 23, 2022 10:38:46 GMT
Probably no point in having the restrictions anyway.....the more considerate folk in society will isolate whether told to or not, in the same way you wouldnt go and visit your nan if you had the flu etc. There will be plenty that can't be arsed isolating regardless of what they are told to, so can't see the point in trying to impose something that can't be policed. I disagree with ending free testing....charging people to find out whether they have a contageus disease or not whilst it's still circulating seems dangerously short sighted. I still test myself weekly but will I do that once my free tests run out and I have to pay? Probably not. Agree with much of this. My employer wants us to test every day before going into the office, which at the moment I do, but if when they start to charge then if they’re not providing them then I won’t be bothering.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Mar 30, 2022 11:36:15 GMT
Just when you thought the nasty party couldn't get any more nastier..... Thanks for working through the pandemic and saving countless lives whilst dealing with the trauma of still losing so many people, but you cant park for free in your own workplace anymore! www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60921606
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Post by Ian H Block on Mar 30, 2022 13:42:53 GMT
Just when you thought the nasty party couldn't get any more nastier..... Thanks for working through the pandemic and saving countless lives whilst dealing with the trauma of still losing so many people, but you cant park for free in your own workplace anymore! www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60921606They’ve probably run it past a few Tory focus groups and no doubt the nasty people who populate them gave it the thumbs up.
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Post by Mean Machine on Mar 30, 2022 22:30:18 GMT
Have you lot turned the telly on lately, a war in Europe, 10s of thousands dead, a reported 4 million refugees, hospitals and schools a prime target, a lunatic threatening to use nuclear weapons and you are moaning about not being able to park at work Are you ****ing serious? I spend half an hour on the daily commute, cant park on site when I get there and have a ten minute walk in to work after I have parked, its no great ****ing hardship is it ?
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Post by Lobster on Mar 31, 2022 4:23:56 GMT
Have you lot turned the telly on lately, a war in Europe, 10s of thousands dead, a reported 4 million refugees, hospitals and schools a prime target, a lunatic threatening to use nuclear weapons and you are moaning about not being able to park at work Are you ****ing serious? I spend half an hour on the daily commute, cant park on site when I get there and have a ten minute walk in to work after I have parked, its no great ****ing hardship is it ? Ah right, yes, there's a war in Ukraine so we can't complain about anything going on here. Sadly this cop-out was being readied long before the invasion with comments like "We're on the brink of World War III and you're on about a party and a birthday cake!" What difference does a war in Ukraine make on a decision to remove free hospital parking for NHS staff? How does one affect or justify the other? Make no mistake, to a party with no compassion or interest in anyone except themselves, what's going on in Ukraine is nothing but a very welcome distraction.
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Post by Ian H Block on Mar 31, 2022 5:57:50 GMT
Have you lot turned the telly on lately, a war in Europe, 10s of thousands dead, a reported 4 million refugees, hospitals and schools a prime target, a lunatic threatening to use nuclear weapons and you are moaning about not being able to park at work Are you ****ing serious? I spend half an hour on the daily commute, cant park on site when I get there and have a ten minute walk in to work after I have parked, its no great ****ing hardship is it ? Yeah, why don’t we just shut down the whole Deva Chat message board at the same time? People are fighting and dying in the streets of Ukraine and posters on here are moaning about a lack of meat and potato pies on the Harry Mac at half time. Are you ****ing serious? Indeed, the Missus complained she was cold last night and would like the central heating turned up. I pointed out that there was a man threatening nuclear Armageddon in Eastern Europe, so put a jumper on, it’s no great ****ing hardship. Jeez
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Post by Si on Mar 31, 2022 7:46:00 GMT
Have you lot turned the telly on lately, a war in Europe, 10s of thousands dead, a reported 4 million refugees, hospitals and schools a prime target, a lunatic threatening to use nuclear weapons and you are moaning about not being able to park at work Are you ****ing serious? I spend half an hour on the daily commute, cant park on site when I get there and have a ten minute walk in to work after I have parked, its no great ****ing hardship is it ? Here's Jacob Rees Mogg. Forget about Partygate, the war has rendered that story as "fluff".
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Mar 31, 2022 10:32:30 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Mar 31, 2022 10:32:30 GMT
Lol he’s fallen for it.
The art of distraction, the Tories are great at it.
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Post by Ian H Block on Mar 31, 2022 11:33:22 GMT
Tories have no soul, just a load of whataboutery and dirty tricks to get themselves off the hook. Working people fall for it all the time, which is why they do it.
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Post by Lobster on Mar 31, 2022 18:06:13 GMT
Have you lot turned the telly on lately, a war in Europe, 10s of thousands dead, a reported 4 million refugees, hospitals and schools a prime target, a lunatic threatening to use nuclear weapons and you are moaning about not being able to park at work Are you ****ing serious? I spend half an hour on the daily commute, cant park on site when I get there and have a ten minute walk in to work after I have parked, its no great ****ing hardship is it ? Here's Jacob Rees Mogg. Forget about Partygate, the war has rendered that story as "fluff". You can always rely on him to just say what the rest of them are thinking. The id of the Tory.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 12, 2022 13:23:35 GMT
Johnson and Sunak fined over Partygate. It will be a pittance of course, but conclusive proof - if it were needed - that they broke the law.
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Post by Ian H Block on Apr 12, 2022 14:23:32 GMT
Johnson and Sunak fined over Partygate. It will be a pittance of course, but conclusive proof - if it were needed - that they broke the law. Broke the law and lied to Parliament. I’m old enough to remember politicians resigning for less.
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Post by lincolnexile on Apr 12, 2022 14:34:11 GMT
Johnson and Sunak fined over Partygate. It will be a pittance of course, but conclusive proof - if it were needed - that they broke the law. At least if Sunak gets his missus to pay the fine for him he won't have to pay any tax on it.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 12, 2022 15:53:55 GMT
Am I being cynical by wondering about this being announced while parliament is in recess?
I predict an upcoming week of vague stories about the Queen, grammar schools, the McCanns and other traditional distractions.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 13, 2022 10:13:55 GMT
I think it can be demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt that Johnson intentionally mislead parliament over this. Of course, he's far too much of a shithouse and a coward to resign, so he needs to be removed. The only other argument is that he's genuinely unaware of what he did, in which case he's not sound of mind and isn't a suitable leader. He can go down that root if he wants, I suppose.
I'm not hopeful he'll be going anywhere though. Apparently the last case of a politician being fined for lying to parliament was in 1666!
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Apr 14, 2022 9:32:57 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Apr 14, 2022 9:32:57 GMT
651 Covid deaths announced yesterday, thank goodness the pandemic is over and Omicron is just a mild illness.
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Apr 14, 2022 10:48:24 GMT
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Apr 14, 2022 10:48:24 GMT
651 Covid deaths announced yesterday, thank goodness the pandemic is over and Omicron is just a mild illness. What do you propose is done to stop this?
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Apr 14, 2022 11:09:22 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Apr 14, 2022 11:09:22 GMT
651 Covid deaths announced yesterday, thank goodness the pandemic is over and Omicron is just a mild illness. What do you propose is done to stop this? They're getting it about right at the moment I think, although removing free testing is crazy. Basically I think we're still paying for bad decisions made right at the start. But the rising numbers do highlight one of many reasons why Boris Johnson should not still be PM. If we get to a situation where lockdowns, masks etc become needed again, surely he can't go on TV and announce it with a straight face, or expect anyone to listen after the way he's behaved?
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Post by Ian H Block on Apr 14, 2022 11:15:49 GMT
651 Covid deaths announced yesterday, thank goodness the pandemic is over and Omicron is just a mild illness. What do you propose is done to stop this? Bring back free universal testing; require people with Covid to self-isolate and provide decent sick pay; face masks in public spaces; employers considering Covid19 in their statutory H & S risk assessments; increased promotion of vaccinations, especially for young people and booster jabs for over 60s. Just spitballing here but 188,000 U.K. Covid deaths and 1000 in the past 48 hours shows the Tories crowing about beating the pandemic is just their usual bullshit.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 14, 2022 15:39:16 GMT
Am I being cynical by wondering about this being announced while parliament is in recess? I predict an upcoming week of vague stories about the Queen, grammar schools, the McCanns and other traditional distractions. Oh yeah, and immigration of course. Forgot about that old chestnut. www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-61110237
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