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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 15, 2022 22:58:57 GMT
This is excellent news. He is the single most salable asset and will play at a much higher level Wouldnt surprise me if he went to a Premier League club.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 16, 2022 8:11:23 GMT
Good to see that Marcus Darkers has signed for another nonth. I would like to see him stay to the end of the season. He is improving with every game. Is he the finished artcle.? No, but he is exactly the kind of player we should be looking to sign, because he can be developed and sold for a profit. In 12 months time ,with a season of men's football under his belt, he will be a real handyful. I wish he were our player because he fits well into Watson's style and obviously has the potential to play higher.
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Post by dmcnally on Feb 16, 2022 10:03:41 GMT
Personally would opt for signing a lower league striker (or two if Waring could be shipped out) on non-contract, with a view to next season, as we’re doing with Rowan Roache.
If there’s nothing to play for, the only beneficiaries of retaining Dackers is the player & his parent club.
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Post by dc2cfc on Feb 16, 2022 10:22:13 GMT
Looking at the next players to depart, hopefully Dudley, Waring, Clark and Gray are next on the list to be moved on...
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 16, 2022 11:10:10 GMT
Happy that we’ve managed to extend Marcus Dackers’ loan. To begin with Marcus was underwhelming, but over the last couple of games he has gradually improved by scoring twice and assisting once in our last two matches. Realistically we have nothing to play for now so it’s pointless in us signing even more loan players, therefore it’s best we stick with what we have got so I’m glad he will be staying here for a little longer to bolster his development.
Good luck Marcus!
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Post by beavis on Feb 16, 2022 11:57:29 GMT
Looking at the next players to depart, hopefully Dudley, Waring, Clark and Gray are next on the list to be moved on... I never quite understand the flack Dudley gets. On his day he can be unplayable, on an average day he can thread a pass through the eye of a needle and when he's sub he can come on and curl a shot in the top corner with his left foot from 20 yards. An Asante and Dudley partnership with Jackson and Taylor flanking them was brilliant to watch a couple of years ago and I feel he's not a main man up front, he need someone further up the pitch that he can link up with. *Ive just been on twitter and typed in his name alongside Chesterfc and a tweet came up from 28/12/20 from Albert Davies who tweeted "53 goal involvements in 77 starts for the club. He's 24 years old. What a player. And guessing he's been involved in another 10 at least since then with say another 20 starts that's potentially 63 goals and asissts in just short of 100 starts, they're outstanding numbers at any level of football, not least for a player that seems to be moved all over the pitch as well.
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Post by terry63 on Feb 16, 2022 12:15:30 GMT
Looking at the next players to depart, hopefully Dudley, Waring, Clark and Gray are next on the list to be moved on... I don’t think you will see Duds in a Chester shirt again 👀 So the haters can stop winging.As for the others, I don’t know.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 16, 2022 12:27:18 GMT
Personally would opt for signing a lower league striker (or two if Waring could be shipped out) on non-contract, with a view to next season, as we’re doing with Rowan Roache. If there’s nothing to play for, the only beneficiaries of retaining Dackers is the player & his parent club. Somewhat disagree, if the lad is settled here ,, I would try to keep him. Also, it aids our reputation for playing and developing young players. That is not to say I wouldnt be looking to sign a lower league striker as a replacement for some of the excluded players. There are a couple out there that would do a job.
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Post by Blockhead on Feb 16, 2022 12:44:53 GMT
Personally would opt for signing a lower league striker (or two if Waring could be shipped out) on non-contract, with a view to next season, as we’re doing with Rowan Roache. If there’s nothing to play for, the only beneficiaries of retaining Dackers is the player & his parent club. Somewhat disagree, if the lad is settled here ,, I would try to keep him. Also, it aids our reputation for playing and developing young players. That is not to say I wouldnt be looking to sign a lower league striker as a replacement for some of the excluded players. There are a couple out there that would do a job. How do you propose to keep him if he's under contract at Salford/they offer him a new deal at the end of the season? He may have potential but he's hardly made such a remarkable difference to justify a fee.
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Post by Moltisanti on Feb 16, 2022 12:55:16 GMT
Looking at the next players to depart, hopefully Dudley, Waring, Clark and Gray are next on the list to be moved on... I never quite understand the flack Dudley gets. On his day he can be unplayable, on an average day he can thread a pass through the eye of a needle and when he's sub he can come on and curl a shot in the top corner with his left foot from 20 yards. An Asante and Dudley partnership with Jackson and Taylor flanking them was brilliant to watch a couple of years ago and I feel he's not a main man up front, he need someone further up the pitch that he can link up with. *Ive just been on twitter and typed in his name alongside Chesterfc and a tweet came up from 28/12/20 from Albert Davies who tweeted "53 goal involvements in 77 starts for the club. He's 24 years old. What a player. And guessing he's been involved in another 10 at least since then with say another 20 starts that's potentially 63 goals and asissts in just short of 100 starts, they're outstanding numbers at any level of football, not least for a player that seems to be moved all over the pitch as well. Couldn’t agree more. Brilliant player. Sorts his fitness out he’d be even better.
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Post by cityboy5705 on Feb 16, 2022 13:11:20 GMT
I never quite understand the flack Dudley gets. On his day he can be unplayable, on an average day he can thread a pass through the eye of a needle and when he's sub he can come on and curl a shot in the top corner with his left foot from 20 yards. An Asante and Dudley partnership with Jackson and Taylor flanking them was brilliant to watch a couple of years ago and I feel he's not a main man up front, he need someone further up the pitch that he can link up with. *Ive just been on twitter and typed in his name alongside Chesterfc and a tweet came up from 28/12/20 from Albert Davies who tweeted "53 goal involvements in 77 starts for the club. He's 24 years old. What a player. And guessing he's been involved in another 10 at least since then with say another 20 starts that's potentially 63 goals and asissts in just short of 100 starts, they're outstanding numbers at any level of football, not least for a player that seems to be moved all over the pitch as well. Couldn’t agree more. Brilliant player. Sorts his fitness out he’d be even better. seconded still one of our top scorers this season Dudley despite not playing well at times says it all if he gets stick yet the rest don't
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Post by cityboy5705 on Feb 16, 2022 13:13:09 GMT
Looking at the next players to depart, hopefully Dudley, Waring, Clark and Gray are next on the list to be moved on... think duds will stay wouldn't lose any sleep if them others go I forgot Clark was still here
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Post by dc2cfc on Feb 16, 2022 13:28:14 GMT
Yes I totally agree with Dudley he is a great player on his day, just the consistency and fitness worries me. I think next season we might have a reduced budget (at a guess) so every player in the first XI and squad need to be on it from day one.
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Post by chesterken on Feb 16, 2022 13:43:43 GMT
I think we really need to have a smaller squad of senior players then use youth team lads to make the numbers up, this way the youngsters could play their way into the team if they take the chances they will get. Brackley do very well every season by playing like this
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Post by mcseal on Feb 16, 2022 13:43:58 GMT
Personally would opt for signing a lower league striker (or two if Waring could be shipped out) on non-contract, with a view to next season, as we’re doing with Rowan Roache. If there’s nothing to play for, the only beneficiaries of retaining Dackers is the player & his parent club. Somewhat disagree, if the lad is settled here ,, I would try to keep him. Also, it aids our reputation for playing and developing young players. That is not to say I wouldnt be looking to sign a lower league striker as a replacement for some of the excluded players. There are a couple out there that would do a job. Can't see the logic in this. If Dackers does well, Salford give him a new contract/keep him in their ranks. If he doesn't, we won't want him anyway. Don't see how we win long term. That's not to say he's not doing a useful short term job at the moment. Playing for us is massively beneficial to him and his football education,I just don't see it being a long term benefit to us.
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Post by chesterken on Feb 16, 2022 13:49:11 GMT
I never quite understand the flack Dudley gets. On his day he can be unplayable, on an average day he can thread a pass through the eye of a needle and when he's sub he can come on and curl a shot in the top corner with his left foot from 20 yards. An Asante and Dudley partnership with Jackson and Taylor flanking them was brilliant to watch a couple of years ago and I feel he's not a main man up front, he need someone further up the pitch that he can link up with. *Ive just been on twitter and typed in his name alongside Chesterfc and a tweet came up from 28/12/20 from Albert Davies who tweeted "53 goal involvements in 77 starts for the club. He's 24 years old. What a player. And guessing he's been involved in another 10 at least since then with say another 20 starts that's potentially 63 goals and asissts in just short of 100 starts, they're outstanding numbers at any level of football, not least for a player that seems to be moved all over the pitch as well. Couldn’t agree more. Brilliant player. Sorts his fitness out he’d be even better. He does need to be more consistent he is another one of those players( and we do have a few) who look great when they come off the bench but when they start and play regularly they just drift in and out without affecting the game.
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Post by chesterken on Feb 16, 2022 13:54:06 GMT
Somewhat disagree, if the lad is settled here ,, I would try to keep him. Also, it aids our reputation for playing and developing young players. That is not to say I wouldnt be looking to sign a lower league striker as a replacement for some of the excluded players. There are a couple out there that would do a job. Can't see the logic in this. If Dackers does well, Salford give him a new contract/keep him in their ranks. If he doesn't, we won't want him anyway. Don't see how we win long term. That's not to say he's not doing a useful short term job at the moment. Playing for us is massively beneficial to him and his football education,I just don't see it being a long term benefit to us. Just because he might not make the grade at Salford doesn’t mean he wouldn’t here, a lot of players get released by league clubs and end up signing for clubs lower that they have been previously been loaned too.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 16, 2022 14:20:24 GMT
Somewhat disagree, if the lad is settled here ,, I would try to keep him. Also, it aids our reputation for playing and developing young players. That is not to say I wouldnt be looking to sign a lower league striker as a replacement for some of the excluded players. There are a couple out there that would do a job. Can't see the logic in this. If Dackers does well, Salford give him a new contract/keep him in their ranks. If he doesn't, we won't want him anyway. Don't see how we win long term. That's not to say he's not doing a useful short term job at the moment. Playing for us is massively beneficial to him and his football education,I just don't see it being a long term benefit to us. He will make the grade. He will play higher than the Conference North. Also, people seem to forget, the lad is 19 and still learning the game. The simple question is: Is he improving? And the answer would be Yes.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 16, 2022 15:09:23 GMT
Somewhat disagree, if the lad is settled here ,, I would try to keep him. Also, it aids our reputation for playing and developing young players. That is not to say I wouldnt be looking to sign a lower league striker as a replacement for some of the excluded players. There are a couple out there that would do a job. How do you propose to keep him if he's under contract at Salford/they offer him a new deal at the end of the season? He may have potential but he's hardly made such a remarkable difference to justify a fee. If you read my post above, I said keep him until the end of the season., as its mutually beneficial.He still has a year left on his Salford City Contract.
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Post by beavis on Feb 16, 2022 15:12:05 GMT
How do you propose to keep him if he's under contract at Salford/they offer him a new deal at the end of the season? He may have potential but he's hardly made such a remarkable difference to justify a fee. If you read my post above, I said keep him until the end of the season., as its mutually beneficial.He still has a year left on his Salford City Contract. If that's the case then surely playing our own young striker Zak Clarke would be more beneficial for us longer term?
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 16, 2022 16:24:00 GMT
If you read my post above, I said keep him until the end of the season., as its mutually beneficial.He still has a year left on his Salford City Contract. If that's the case then surely playing our own young striker Zak Clarke would be more beneficial for us longer term? Zak Clarke is probably a good 12 months behind Dackers in terms of development. He needs to stay at Atherton, until the end of the season.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 16, 2022 16:32:43 GMT
I really dont get the love in with Johnson and Morley's old boys. We are 16th for a reason. We need players with much more mental strength, if we are going to finish the season atrongly. Heads have been going down far too easily. Boaton being a classic example.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 16, 2022 16:59:01 GMT
I really dont get the love in with Johnson and Morley's old boys. We are 16th for a reason. We need players with much more mental strength, if we are going to finish the season atrongly. Heads have been going down far too easily. Boaton being a classic example. For me we should be building a team AROUND the likes of Glendon, Weeks and Dudley. Weeks and Dudley for example weren't even involved at Boston. This season has been horrific but that doesn't mean there are players within the squad that can't play a part of our future success as last season showed. In Burke and Williams we have the future now without the likes of Grand and Livesey, Fitzpatrick and Roberts will give fantastic experience for the two younger defenders. A ball winning midfielder to compliment Weeks and Glendon and two quick wide players like Jackson, Apter, Mooney, Stephenson and a goalscorer would ensure we're around the top next season. Since Morley and Johnson have left so have Cowan Lacey Askew Oyebo Johnston Redshaw - loan Jolley - loan Whilst the likes of the below have been frozen out Gray Livesey L. Clarke Hardy Dudley Glendon Z. Clarke That's 14 players that have either left or are not being selected. A huge turnover from Watson in such a short space of time. Who/Where else can he get rid of/improve for us to finish strongly? I think they tried to build a team around them this season and that worked well. Without the shake up we would have been lucky to stay up.
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Post by agl on Feb 16, 2022 17:24:57 GMT
I think it's pretty obvious Dudley's days here are numbered, judging by the teams Watson is putting out. You can probably add Livesey, Clark, Gray, Glendon, Grand, Waring and Hardy. Being brutally honest, the form under Watson is no better than we'd have got from Johnson and Morley. We're still abysmal away from home, still capable of giving anyone a drubbing at home and still haven't won two in a row all season. Since he arrived we've won two out of nine matches and twice conceded four goals. Clearly he doesn't fancy what he's inherited, which is why he's systematically dismantling the squad mid-season. The comings and going of the past few weeks are what you'd normally expect over the Summer. He must know that after failing at York with a big budget he's pretty much in the last chance saloon himself, so I'd expect him to be ruthless.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 16, 2022 17:45:10 GMT
I think they tried to build a team around them this season and that worked well. Without the shake up we would have been lucky to stay up. They didn't sign a forward, relying on Dudley and Waring was management suicide. Far too lightweight with the likes of Hardy, Weeks, Glendon and then Redshaw. Waiting for a crocked Lacey and not signing a left footer to replace the likes of Elliott and Baress. But there is definitely a team to be made out of those three supported and surrounded by more robust players. You like big, strong players that can kick it very far with lads who can run about a lot, I prefer to watch technically gifted players gliding with the ball like Weeks, Taylor, Jackson and Dudley. Matter of opinions I suppose. Massive preconception that. I have scouted about 15 players this season some targetmen , some midfielders, wingers, some central defenders. The common factor is that they are all relatively good on the ball and all have potential I have seen some highly gifted, technical players. They all differ and they would probably all do a job at this level. The most important thing that you require, as well as pace or physicality or technical ability is the right attitude and mentality and the need to take responsibility, for what is happening in the pitch.
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Post by ronseal on Feb 16, 2022 17:48:48 GMT
I think they tried to build a team around them this season and that worked well. Without the shake up we would have been lucky to stay up. They didn't sign a forward, relying on Dudley and Waring was management suicide. Far too lightweight with the likes of Hardy, Weeks, Glendon and then Redshaw. Waiting for a crocked Lacey and not signing a left footer to replace the likes of Elliott and Baress. But there is definitely a team to be made out of those three supported and surrounded by more robust players. You like big, strong players that can kick it very far with lads who can run about a lot, I prefer to watch technically gifted players gliding with the ball like Weeks, Taylor, Jackson and Dudley. Matter of opinions I suppose. I think suicide is a bit harsh. I know we lack the Asante style 20+ goal a season striker we obviously all want but offensively we’ve been alright this season. Currently we’ve scored the joint 4th highest amount of total goals (44) in the division and have the 5th highest goals per game (1.69). If we share the goals out like we have then it can work. However, in contrast we’ve gave the 3rd worst record in terms of both goals conceded per game (1.8) and in total (47). If you look at us and Brackley who are joint top for instance we’ve scored 10 more goals than them but conceded 20 more goals. Shows where the problem has been lying in my opinion. In terms of signings, I think also not signing a winger was also a massive mistake. We’ve seen the difference Jolley and Apter have made when they’ve come in and we started the season with only Johnston as an out and out winger with Stephenson and Oyibo playing there as well. Additionally having to rely on two 35+ year olds and an unproven 21 year old (who’s done well) as out and out centre halves was a mistake. I feel like the recruitment was too much square pegs in round holes rather than signing exactly what we needed.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Feb 16, 2022 17:50:14 GMT
They didn't sign a forward, relying on Dudley and Waring was management suicide. Far too lightweight with the likes of Hardy, Weeks, Glendon and then Redshaw. Waiting for a crocked Lacey and not signing a left footer to replace the likes of Elliott and Baress. But there is definitely a team to be made out of those three supported and surrounded by more robust players. You like big, strong players that can kick it very far with lads who can run about a lot, I prefer to watch technically gifted players gliding with the ball like Weeks, Taylor, Jackson and Dudley. Matter of opinions I suppose. Massive preconception that. I have scouted about 15 players this season some targetmen , some midfielders, wingers, some central defenders. The common factor is that they are all relatively good on the ball and all have potential I have seen some highly gifted, technical players. They all differ and they would probably all do a job at this level. The most important thing that you require, as well as pace or physicality or technical ability is the right attitude and mentality and the need to take responsibility, for what is happening in the pitch. You have actually identified most of the shortcomings of Johnson and Morley's recruitment. However, we probably differ on how to rectify it.
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Post by terry63 on Feb 16, 2022 18:36:01 GMT
I think it's pretty obvious Dudley's days here are numbered, judging by the teams Watson is putting out. You can probably add Livesey, Clark, Gray, Glendon, Grand, Waring and Hardy. Being brutally honest, the form under Watson is no better than we'd have got from Johnson and Morley. We're still abysmal away from home, still capable of giving anyone a drubbing at home and still haven't won two in a row all season. Since he arrived we've won two out of nine matches and twice conceded four goals. Clearly he doesn't fancy what he's inherited, which is why he's systematically dismantling the squad mid-season. The comings and going of the past few weeks are what you'd normally expect over the Summer. He must know that after failing at York with a big budget he's pretty much in the last chance saloon himself, so I'd expect him to be ruthless. Think you’ll find Dudley, Glendon and Livesey have been injured
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 16, 2022 23:13:15 GMT
Really made up that we’ve tied Harrison Burke down for the long term. Harrison has the ability to make us lots of money in the future, so this is a crucial bit of business as he has shone in the handful of cameos he has made. He is really mature for his age, so with that attitude and mindset in mind he can really go far in the game if he keeps on working really hard. At the moment Harrison seems to be one of the first names on our team sheet, which is testament to both him and all at our academy for nurturing what looks like another gem.
All the best Harrison!
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Post by Al on Feb 17, 2022 6:55:47 GMT
I really dont get the love in with Johnson and Morley's old boys. We are 16th for a reason. We need players with much more mental strength, if we are going to finish the season atrongly. Heads have been going down far too easily. Boaton being a classic example. For me we should be building a team AROUND the likes of Glendon, Weeks and Dudley. Weeks and Dudley for example weren't even involved at Boston. This season has been horrific but that doesn't mean there are players within the squad that can't play a part of our future success as last season showed. In Burke and Williams we have the future now without the likes of Grand and Livesey, Fitzpatrick and Roberts will give fantastic experience for the two younger defenders. A ball winning midfielder to compliment Weeks and Glendon and two quick wide players like Jackson, Apter, Mooney, Stephenson and a goalscorer would ensure we're around the top next season. Since Morley and Johnson have left so have Cowan Morgan Lacey Askew Oyebo Johnston Redshaw - loan Jolley - loan Whilst the likes of the below have been frozen out Gray Livesey L. Clarke Hardy Dudley Glendon Z. Clarke That's 15 players that have either left or are not being selected. A huge turnover from Watson in such a short space of time. Who/Where else can he get rid of/improve for us to finish strongly? Why would you build a team around Dudley?The man has one good game in 10
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