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Post by dc2cfc on Feb 17, 2022 10:11:12 GMT
Going forward into next season, personally I don't know what the managers preferred formation is if he has his own chosen players starting?
4-1-4-1 4-2-3-1 3-5-2
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This is based on my opinion for next season I could the starting XI being something like this...
New Keeper
Roberts - New CB - Williams - Fitzpatrick
Burke - Weeks
New Winger - New AM - Stephenson
New Striker
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Post by Lobster on Feb 17, 2022 11:33:46 GMT
Persevering with a team built around the Dudley, Glendon, Weeks triangle would seem a bit like watching a bluebottle fly into the same pane of glass again and again, thinking it's eventually going to fly through it. We can go on all we like about them being good players, but it just hasn't worked this season. Against Brackley we notably changed the whole dynamics of how we playing when Glendon came on, and it was neat and tidy and easy on the eye, but nowhere near as effective.
Then again, last season it was generally successful, and anyone suggesting we got rid of it in the summer would've been seen as mad. I struggle to understand why this season has been so poor, other than things going a bit stale and the previous managers growing increasingly narky and defensive. Possibly just a case of "when routine bites hard and ambitions are low" as Ian Curtis sang.
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Post by noddy on Feb 17, 2022 12:13:54 GMT
Why would you build a team around Dudley?The man has one good game in 10 Because he's a good player. I know he's a good player because I've seen it with my own eyes, as have you. His statistics prove he's a good player too. Now, if you're saying he's been poor this season in a poor team then id tend to agree with you but again, that doesn't mean he's a poor player, it means he's a having a bad run, bearing in mind he hasn't played for nearly wo months for us. Undoubtedly a good player. It's his fitness and mindset the issue. Has looked a stone overweight all season which is unacceptable, unprofessional and sets a poor example and for me for that reason he has to be released end of season. His talent and ability is not in doubt.
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Post by vandycandy on Feb 17, 2022 12:41:06 GMT
Because he's a good player. I know he's a good player because I've seen it with my own eyes, as have you. His statistics prove he's a good player too. Now, if you're saying he's been poor this season in a poor team then id tend to agree with you but again, that doesn't mean he's a poor player, it means he's a having a bad run, bearing in mind he hasn't played for nearly wo months for us. Undoubtedly a good player. It's his fitness and mindset the issue. Has looked a stone overweight all season which is unacceptable, unprofessional and sets a poor example and for me for that reason he has to be released end of season. His talent and ability is not in doubt. Personally I wouldn't be sad to see Dudley go. Has a decent game now & then but I'd put full trust in Watson to find a better replacement. At the end of the day it's their squad of players that have put us where we are this season. Hope that doesn't upset the Bern & Jonno bummers to much but it's fact.
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Post by avfo on Feb 17, 2022 12:45:40 GMT
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Post by 1paulcarden on Feb 17, 2022 23:09:24 GMT
Why would you build a team around Dudley?The man has one good game in 10 Because he's a good player. I know he's a good player because I've seen it with my own eyes, as have you. His statistics prove he's a good player too. Now, if you're saying he's been poor this season in a poor team then id tend to agree with you but again, that doesn't mean he's a poor player, it means he's a having a bad run, bearing in mind he hasn't played for nearly wo months for us. Sorry but this is rubbish. A sporadically good player isn’t a good player. Similar to the ‘He does the stuff you can’t see’, which was the line trotted out about holding midfielders pre Kante. Ability is there I agree, but attitude, fitness and desire are nowhere near. Not a good player.
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Post by avfo on Feb 25, 2022 13:32:19 GMT
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Post by bluejay on Feb 25, 2022 15:00:32 GMT
Glad they've finally clarified what's going on with those 2! Has Glendon's move to Spennymoor fallen through or was that a vicious rumour?
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Post by Harry Lime on Feb 25, 2022 15:04:17 GMT
At least four players out with Hamstring injuries is unusual. Wonder if that is down to change in training methods? SW is thought to prefer strong training sessions, whereas B+J are more light training.
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Post by avfo on Mar 1, 2022 16:18:53 GMT
David Okagbue returns to Stoke following the completion of his months loan deal.
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Post by avfo on Mar 2, 2022 16:18:25 GMT
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Post by sealking on Mar 2, 2022 18:29:25 GMT
Luke Clark has departed too
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Post by rodthomas on Mar 2, 2022 18:41:15 GMT
At least he had the maturity to exit with decorum unlike a certain Paddy Lacey.
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Post by beavis on Mar 2, 2022 18:50:58 GMT
At least he had the maturity to exit with decorum unlike a certain Paddy Lacey. Bollocks. I wasn't his biggest fan due to him prioritising boxing over Chester, but like Luke Clarke he has had nothing but positive things to say about the club and us. He called out Watson for what he described as lies in his interview and to be honest, its starting to ring true.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Mar 2, 2022 19:01:09 GMT
Sean Newton incoming?
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Post by vandycandy on Mar 2, 2022 19:22:00 GMT
At least he had the maturity to exit with decorum unlike a certain Paddy Lacey. Bollocks. I wasn't his biggest fan due to him prioritising boxing over Chester, but like Luke Clarke he has had nothing but positive things to say about the club and us. He called out Watson for what he described as lies in his interview and to be honest, its starting to ring true. Paddy insulted SW on twitter & disrespected him, slated him quite a bit actually. Is that mature? He made himself look like more of a twat than he already is. Don't really care about Clark going but at least he has kept his mouth shut.
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Post by beavis on Mar 2, 2022 19:25:41 GMT
Bollocks. I wasn't his biggest fan due to him prioritising boxing over Chester, but like Luke Clarke he has had nothing but positive things to say about the club and us. He called out Watson for what he described as lies in his interview and to be honest, its starting to ring true. Paddy insulted SW on twitter & disrespected him, slated him quite a bit actually. Is that mature? He made himself look like more of a twat than he already is. Don't really care about Clark going but at least he has kept his mouth shut. And SW insulted the team and players in Paddys opinion clearly. Why should any player who has left any club keep their mouth shut? Give me some clarity with what the hell is happening in that changing room over Tim nice but dim selling us a load of horse shit in his interviews.
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Post by vandycandy on Mar 2, 2022 19:31:47 GMT
Paddy insulted SW on twitter & disrespected him, slated him quite a bit actually. Is that mature? He made himself look like more of a twat than he already is. Don't really care about Clark going but at least he has kept his mouth shut. And SW insulted the team and players in Paddys opinion clearly. Why should any player who has left any club keep their mouth shut? Give me some clarity with what the hell is happening in that changing room over Tim nice but dim selling us a load of horse shit in his interviews. To insult the current manager who is still trying to get this squad of players out of the shit we find ourselves in, Paddy thought it's ok to cause shit between manager/players/fans. That doesn't sit well with me. How's about you get behind Watson instead of moaning all the time about him. It's getting old mate.
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Post by beavis on Mar 2, 2022 19:39:18 GMT
And SW insulted the team and players in Paddys opinion clearly. Why should any player who has left any club keep their mouth shut? Give me some clarity with what the hell is happening in that changing room over Tim nice but dim selling us a load of horse shit in his interviews. To insult the current manager who is still trying to get this squad of players out of the shit we find ourselves in, Paddy thought it's ok to cause shit between manager/players/fans. That doesn't sit well with me. How's about you get behind Watson instead of moaning all the time about him. It's getting old mate.LOL. You mean the way you used to get behind the previous two? I've been to every game, I spend a fortune watching us, weve got worse as you well know. He's got zero fight, he can't organise a team and he couldnt inspire a pervert to have a wet dream. I'm glad Lacey left as I said at the time as we weren't his priority but at least he gave us some clarity on why we've become even shitter than before. As for Clarke, what an astonishingly bizarre signing he was from the off, nice lad mind!
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Post by agl on Mar 2, 2022 19:59:43 GMT
Didn't really work out for Clark. Not entirely sure why he was signed as he never seemed to be better than a bit part player. He must be a bit frustrated by his time with us but his statement on the OWS is class. Wish him all the best.
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Post by vandycandy on Mar 2, 2022 20:09:19 GMT
To insult the current manager who is still trying to get this squad of players out of the shit we find ourselves in, Paddy thought it's ok to cause shit between manager/players/fans. That doesn't sit well with me. How's about you get behind Watson instead of moaning all the time about him. It's getting old mate.LOL. You mean the way you used to get behind the previous two?I've been to every game, I spend a fortune watching us, weve got worse as you well know. He's got zero fight, he can't organise a team and he couldnt inspire a pervert to have a wet dream. I'm glad Lacey left as I said at the time as we weren't his priority but at least he gave us some clarity on why we've become even shitter than before. As for Clarke, what an astonishingly bizarre signing he was from the off, nice lad mind! Their the reason why we are where we are, don't know if you've noticed but they spaffed the budget on mediocre shit at the start of the season & we are paying the price for that. Said many times these players are B&J boys, they don't wanna play for Watson, doesn't make him a bad manager & I'd certainly trust him more to build a better team next season than they did this.
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Post by beavis on Mar 2, 2022 20:35:22 GMT
LOL. You mean the way you used to get behind the previous two?I've been to every game, I spend a fortune watching us, weve got worse as you well know. He's got zero fight, he can't organise a team and he couldnt inspire a pervert to have a wet dream. I'm glad Lacey left as I said at the time as we weren't his priority but at least he gave us some clarity on why we've become even shitter than before. As for Clarke, what an astonishingly bizarre signing he was from the off, nice lad mind! Their the reason why we are where we are, don't know if you've noticed but they spaffed the budget on mediocre shit at the start of the season & we are paying the price for that. Said many times these players are B&J boys, they don't wanna play for Watson, doesn't make him a bad manager & I'd certainly trust him more to build a better team next season than they did this. They call that hindsight young man, if we all worked with hindsight then we'd all be super successful and rich. Nobody foresaw us being in this predicament back in pre-season, in fact we were all waxing lyrical about performances back then, Hardy, Weeks, Glendon and Dudley all looked fantastic together. B&J had a poor start to the season and paid the price, correctly so as well. Since then though its steadily got worse and worse, weve lost 3 on the bounce - which they did once, 3 years ago against Curzon 0-1, Spennymoor 2-0 and Kiddy 4-1 - and we're also currently on a 4 game losing streak. The most they lost on the bounce this season was 2 in their last 2 games, even Gateshead have done that this season and they're top! B&J were a busted flush, it was time for them to go, they never looked like recovering from a poor start and looked lost and angry in their post match interviews. However, Watson has made us infinitely worse, as the facts above show!
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Post by league2 on Mar 2, 2022 20:48:33 GMT
LOL. You mean the way you used to get behind the previous two?I've been to every game, I spend a fortune watching us, weve got worse as you well know. He's got zero fight, he can't organise a team and he couldnt inspire a pervert to have a wet dream. I'm glad Lacey left as I said at the time as we weren't his priority but at least he gave us some clarity on why we've become even shitter than before. As for Clarke, what an astonishingly bizarre signing he was from the off, nice lad mind! Their the reason why we are where we are, don't know if you've noticed but they spaffed the budget on mediocre shit at the start of the season & we are paying the price for that. Said many times these players are B&J boys, they don't wanna play for Watson, doesn't make him a bad manager & I'd certainly trust him more to build a better team next season than they did this. I think you will find there wasn't very much of budget to spaff lol,but thats been done to death we are what, and where we are
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Post by vandycandy on Mar 2, 2022 20:51:37 GMT
Their the reason why we are where we are, don't know if you've noticed but they spaffed the budget on mediocre shit at the start of the season & we are paying the price for that. Said many times these players are B&J boys, they don't wanna play for Watson, doesn't make him a bad manager & I'd certainly trust him more to build a better team next season than they did this. They call that hindsight young man, if we all worked with hindsight then we'd all be super successful and rich. Nobody foresaw us being in this predicament back in pre-season, in fact we were all waxing lyrical about performances back then, Hardy, Weeks, Glendon and Dudley all looked fantastic together. B&J had a poor start to the season and paid the price, correctly so as well. Since then though its steadily got worse and worse, weve lost 3 on the bounce - which they did once, 3 years ago against Curzon 0-1, Spennymoor 2-0 and Kiddy 4-1 - and we're also currently on a 4 game losing streak. The most they lost on the bounce this season was 2 in their last 2 games, even Gateshead have done that this season and they're top! B&J were a busted flush, it was time for them to go, they never looked like recovering from a poor start and looked lost and angry in their post match interviews. However, Watson has made us infinitely worse, as the facts above show! So are you of the opinion where we should just keep sacking managers when things begin to turn sour & then spend more money appointing a new manager?
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Post by rodthomas on Mar 2, 2022 20:59:06 GMT
LOL. You mean the way you used to get behind the previous two?I've been to every game, I spend a fortune watching us, weve got worse as you well know. He's got zero fight, he can't organise a team and he couldnt inspire a pervert to have a wet dream. I'm glad Lacey left as I said at the time as we weren't his priority but at least he gave us some clarity on why we've become even shitter than before. As for Clarke, what an astonishingly bizarre signing he was from the off, nice lad mind! Their the reason why we are where we are, don't know if you've noticed but they spaffed the budget on mediocre shit at the start of the season & we are paying the price for that. Said many times these players are B&J boys, they don't wanna play for Watson, doesn't make him a bad manager & I'd certainly trust him more to build a better team next season than they did this.We were actually better placed after Johnson & Morley's last game in charge. Since Watson has arrived we look like a relegation team whereas under Johnson & Morley I'd have said mid-table, the form proves that in both cases. We have taken many steps backwards. I don't understand the love affair you have with Watson-are you a relative?
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Post by beavis on Mar 2, 2022 21:00:52 GMT
They call that hindsight young man, if we all worked with hindsight then we'd all be super successful and rich. Nobody foresaw us being in this predicament back in pre-season, in fact we were all waxing lyrical about performances back then, Hardy, Weeks, Glendon and Dudley all looked fantastic together. B&J had a poor start to the season and paid the price, correctly so as well. Since then though its steadily got worse and worse, weve lost 3 on the bounce - which they did once, 3 years ago against Curzon 0-1, Spennymoor 2-0 and Kiddy 4-1 - and we're also currently on a 4 game losing streak. The most they lost on the bounce this season was 2 in their last 2 games, even Gateshead have done that this season and they're top! B&J were a busted flush, it was time for them to go, they never looked like recovering from a poor start and looked lost and angry in their post match interviews. However, Watson has made us infinitely worse, as the facts above show! So are you of the opinion where we should just keep sacking managers when things begin to turn sour & then spend more money appointing a new manager? I'm of the opinion that I can come onto a message board of the club I support and post my opinion with a possibility that it generates debate. We cant afford to sack another manager, I don't want us in a financial position like that of 2018 so instead of crowing about the model, i'll have a bit of a moan about the manager who has made my team worse, FACT!
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Post by vandycandy on Mar 2, 2022 21:09:56 GMT
So are you of the opinion where we should just keep sacking managers when things begin to turn sour & then spend more money appointing a new manager? I'm of the opinion that I can come onto a message board of the club I support and post my opinion with a possibility that it generates debate. We cant afford to sack another manager, I don't want us in a financial position like that of 2018 so instead of crowing about the model, i'll have a bit of a moan about the manager who has made my team worse, FACT! Certainly does that beavis or should I say butthead.
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Post by vandycandy on Mar 2, 2022 21:11:32 GMT
Their the reason why we are where we are, don't know if you've noticed but they spaffed the budget on mediocre shit at the start of the season & we are paying the price for that. Said many times these players are B&J boys, they don't wanna play for Watson, doesn't make him a bad manager & I'd certainly trust him more to build a better team next season than they did this.We were actually better placed after Johnson & Morley's last game in charge. Since Watson has arrived we look like a relegation team whereas under Johnson & Morley I'd have said mid-table, the form proves that in both cases. We have taken many steps backwards. I don't understand the love affair you have with Watson-are you a relative? Still a tool I see Rod assuming you're the same rodthomas who started slating Watson as soon as he was appointed.
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Post by rodthomas on Mar 2, 2022 23:00:19 GMT
Yes that's me however I firmly dispute your claim that one is a tool. Perhaps you're suggesting that because I'm not a fan of Watson or perhaps because I posed a genuine question about you being related to Watson on the basis that you eulogize about him so much. It was a flippant remark yet you still throw abuse at me.
Nice to see DC members are still insulting one another.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Mar 3, 2022 14:21:03 GMT
Not surprised in the slightest to hear about Luke Clark going.
He didn’t play very often at all, but if I was in Luke’s shoes I too would want to be playing much more regularly, so I understand his decision for departing. His message on our club website was very classy, so I wish him all the very best for the future because he deserves lots of respect for playing for free. At the start of last season Luke was a handy player who could operate in many positions, especially at right back and in the heart of our midfield, but things just haven’t gone his way this season as he has rarely played.
Good luck for the rest of your career Luke 🔵⚪️🔵⚪️!
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