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Post by agl on Jul 4, 2020 11:53:56 GMT
It would be beyond belief if they allowed clubs to spend money on preparation, only to pull the plug.
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Jul 4, 2020 12:36:51 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Jul 4, 2020 12:36:51 GMT
It's more the way the country goes over the next few weeks that concerns me. I have a feeling local lockdowns won't begin and end in Leicester.
Just a gut feeling and obviously I hope I'm wrong.
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Jul 4, 2020 12:57:44 GMT
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Post by dmcnally on Jul 4, 2020 12:57:44 GMT
Playoff clubs are being told by the NL that the FA ratifying the decision will be a simple formality they just haven’t met yet. They will be played.
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Jul 4, 2020 13:26:56 GMT
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Post by agl on Jul 4, 2020 13:26:56 GMT
It's more the way the country goes over the next few weeks that concerns me. I have a feeling local lockdowns won't begin and end in Leicester. Just a gut feeling and obviously I hope I'm wrong. Leicester vs Palace going ahead today.
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Jul 5, 2020 14:55:19 GMT
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Post by exiled on Jul 5, 2020 14:55:19 GMT
Live streaming....any sales could be set up to the 2 fan bases, so we would benefit the most. The league would need to make a decision. My son has used live streaming for political events using Youtube platform, but for an event like this would require more. That was a one camera set up. This would be 3 and live mixing desk. Commentary as well. My son was talking of investing in it recently. Am seeing him later so will ask him! If this virus affects crowd restrictions for the next few years, live streaming will be essential to help clubs survive. We already have the basic means to do it via Chester fc tv which could be used to it's full potential attracting extra sponsorship at the same time. Maybe we would be better off using a different platform to youtube that offers encryption though. There were suggestions recently that the top tier of nonleague football may have to be regionalised to cut down on associated travel costs and to help clubs save money. Giving clubs the chance to stream their own games would also help them generate income from the shortfall in gate revenue, so is as equally as important as regionalisation IMO. For all this to happen, the National league would have to bin off BT at the end of their contract next year.
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Post by Harry Lime on Jul 5, 2020 16:54:07 GMT
Live streaming....any sales could be set up to the 2 fan bases, so we would benefit the most. The league would need to make a decision. My son has used live streaming for political events using Youtube platform, but for an event like this would require more. That was a one camera set up. This would be 3 and live mixing desk. Commentary as well. My son was talking of investing in it recently. Am seeing him later so will ask him! If this virus affects crowd restrictions for the next few years, live streaming will be essential to help clubs survive. We already have the basic means to do it via Chester fc tv which could be used to it's full potential attracting extra sponsorship at the same time. Maybe we would be better off using a different platform to youtube that offers encryption though. There were suggestions recently that the top tier of nonleague football may have to be regionalised to cut down on associated travel costs and to help clubs save money. Giving clubs the chance to stream their own games would also help them generate income from the shortfall in gate revenue, so is as equally as important as regionalisation IMO. For all this to happen, the National league would have to bin off BT at the end of their contract next year. Maybe the contract with BT could be revised to give BT first choice for live games. With any non BT selected games able to be streamed by the clubs.
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Jul 5, 2020 18:00:47 GMT
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Post by exiled on Jul 5, 2020 18:00:47 GMT
If this virus affects crowd restrictions for the next few years, live streaming will be essential to help clubs survive. We already have the basic means to do it via Chester fc tv which could be used to it's full potential attracting extra sponsorship at the same time. Maybe we would be better off using a different platform to youtube that offers encryption though. There were suggestions recently that the top tier of nonleague football may have to be regionalised to cut down on associated travel costs and to help clubs save money. Giving clubs the chance to stream their own games would also help them generate income from the shortfall in gate revenue, so is as equally as important as regionalisation IMO. For all this to happen, the National league would have to bin off BT at the end of their contract next year. Maybe the contract with BT could be revised to give BT first choice for live games. With any non BT selected games able to be streamed by the clubs. That would make more sense. The current deal has little or no reward for the National league clubs, and the North and south league clubs don't benefit at all.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 6, 2020 7:51:51 GMT
The National League will be streaming via a pay-per-view platform (presumably payable to the league not the clubs?!) the NLS semi-final between Havant & Waterloovile and Slough or Dartford who meet in the Eliminator round.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 6, 2020 9:07:02 GMT
Now Alty have announced exactly the same for our game with them.
Suspect the National League want every playoff game covered so will ensure an outsourced team of freelancers will cover them.
As above it’s unclear who benefits from the pay per view as the league themselves are arranging all of this and will have to pay the freelance workers for all the coverage.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 6, 2020 9:16:54 GMT
Now Alty have announced exactly the same for our game with them. Suspect the National League want every playoff game covered so will ensure an outsourced team of freelancers will cover them. As above it’s unclear who benefits from the pay per view as the league themselves are arranging all of this and will have to pay the freelance workers for all the coverage. It will be interesting to get the full details of this as I expect it could be a good little earner for both clubs but as you say its unclear who will benefit
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Post by northcestrian on Jul 6, 2020 9:22:59 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 6, 2020 9:29:14 GMT
Won’t be much for us then; the costs will be for Alty staging the game and the league broadcasting it. Good job our fundraising efforts have been out of this world.
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Post by exiled on Jul 6, 2020 9:52:02 GMT
Won’t be much for us then; the costs will be for Alty staging the game and the league broadcasting it. Good job our fundraising efforts have been out of this world. Great news that we'll get to see the game! You'd hope that the cost of staging the game would be treated separately to any profits generated from streaming.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jul 6, 2020 9:53:04 GMT
Won’t be much for us then; the costs will be for Alty staging the game and the league broadcasting it. Good job our fundraising efforts have been out of this world. I thought the costs of staging the games was to be split between the 2 clubs so if this covers their costs and a bit more then surely there will be no need for anything from us which in theory means that the "innit together fund" will only need to cover our costs ie training, testing etc which should be a lot less than the £30k being quoted
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Post by lincolnexile on Jul 6, 2020 10:02:56 GMT
Won’t be much for us then; the costs will be for Alty staging the game and the league broadcasting it. Good job our fundraising efforts have been out of this world. I thought the costs of staging the games was to be split between the 2 clubs so if this covers their costs and a bit more then surely there will be no need for anything from us which in theory means that the "innit together fund" will only need to cover our costs ie training, testing etc which should be a lot less than the £30k being quoted Anything we get from this will be a bonus. If we get past Alty then the York game should definitely make us a few quid looking at their home attendances.
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Post by chesterblueboy on Jul 6, 2020 17:06:22 GMT
I thought the costs of staging the games was to be split between the 2 clubs so if this covers their costs and a bit more then surely there will be no need for anything from us which in theory means that the "innit together fund" will only need to cover our costs ie training, testing etc which should be a lot less than the £30k being quoted Anything we get from this will be a bonus. If we get past Alty then the York game should definitely make us a few quid looking at their home attendances. You would guess that the York semifinal will have a huge pay per view attendance, as conservatively there could be as many as 7,500 fans between York and Chester or Altrincham (the cost for showing the game would be the same if 5 people subscribe or 5,000). If the cost is say £12.50 per game (worked this figure as it would net after VAT £10), so 7,500 at a tenner is £75k. Take off costs of say £15k and you get £30k each club. Pubs and bars are not allowed to show sport on TV, so you there is no way they’ll be able to show streams. Nice little earner towards the costs of entering the playoffs/towards next season’s budget - just need to beat Alty now!!!!
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Post by delamereal on Jul 6, 2020 17:32:11 GMT
Anything we get from this will be a bonus. If we get past Alty then the York game should definitely make us a few quid looking at their home attendances. You would guess that the York semifinal will have a huge pay per view attendance, as conservatively there could be as many as 7,500 fans between York and Chester or Altrincham (the cost for showing the game would be the same if 5 people subscribe or 5,000). If the cost is say £12.50 per game (worked this figure as it would net after VAT £10), so 7,500 at a tenner is £75k. Take off costs of say £15k and you get £30k each club. Pubs and bars are not allowed to show sport on TV, so you there is no way they’ll be able to show streams. Nice little earner towards the costs of entering the playoffs/towards next season’s budget - just need to beat Alty now!!!! As far as I know they are, without any sound.
Know a few that had football & racing on at the weekend.
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Post by chesterblueboy on Jul 6, 2020 20:09:24 GMT
You would guess that the York semifinal will have a huge pay per view attendance, as conservatively there could be as many as 7,500 fans between York and Chester or Altrincham (the cost for showing the game would be the same if 5 people subscribe or 5,000). If the cost is say £12.50 per game (worked this figure as it would net after VAT £10), so 7,500 at a tenner is £75k. Take off costs of say £15k and you get £30k each club. Pubs and bars are not allowed to show sport on TV, so you there is no way they’ll be able to show streams. Nice little earner towards the costs of entering the playoffs/towards next season’s budget - just need to beat Alty now!!!! As far as I know they are, without any sound.
Know a few that had football & racing on at the weekend.Sorry you’re correct, the advice is clear as mud but it suggests that pubs should either not show football or have it on in the background with the sound low or off to avoid shouting or chanting (not sure why the volume being low would discourage ‘shouting or chanting’ but there you go!!)
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Jul 6, 2020 20:47:56 GMT
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Post by lincolnexile on Jul 6, 2020 20:47:56 GMT
I see Alty are confident that Lundstrom, who they’ve got on loan from Crewe and has even playing out of his skin, will be allowed to play in the play offs. Surely the fact that his loan deal finished on March 24th means it would be classed as a new loan deal which wouldn’t be allowed?
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Post by Harry Lime on Jul 7, 2020 7:41:38 GMT
I see Alty are confident that Lundstrom, who they’ve got on loan from Crewe and has even playing out of his skin, will be allowed to play in the play offs. Surely the fact that his loan deal finished on March 24th means it would be classed as a new loan deal which wouldn’t be allowed? It's exactly the same as our situation with Louis Gray. It appears that if you had a player on loan at the time the season stopped, maybe you can extend the loan. My concern with Gray is that he holds out for a new contract for next season before he agrees to play in the play offs. Forcing us to sign him, when we may want someone else long term. Also committing us to another contract before we know which league we're in, and when season starts. Not ideal.
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Post by northcestrian on Jul 7, 2020 9:27:12 GMT
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Jul 7, 2020 10:27:25 GMT
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Post by northcestrian on Jul 7, 2020 10:27:25 GMT
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Post by lincolnexile on Jul 7, 2020 10:59:33 GMT
I'd be suprised if we played a friendly given that we're so close to the first game and the extra costs involved in additional testing, ground preparation, etc...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 11:39:01 GMT
Alty have been boosted by the news that Lundstram has been given permission to play in the play offs
Surely Louis Gray has to be given the green light to play
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Post by lincolnexile on Jul 7, 2020 12:09:30 GMT
The Alty fans' message board is entertaining.
One bloke is worried that if the match is shown in a pub near the ground loads of Chester fans are going to descend on the pub so they can watch the match near the ground, yes because Chester supporters would much rather travel to a pub in Altrincham to watch a match rather than watch in a pub in Chester. Another saying that they should 'Run the Chester out of Alty'.
It must be terrible when you're that desperate for a rivalry that you start inventing one.
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Jul 7, 2020 12:27:33 GMT
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Post by northcestrian on Jul 7, 2020 12:27:33 GMT
That forum is very tongue in cheek, that said they’re probably a bit mindful after the poor behaviour in the FA cup replay this year. I live in the area, they only have a rivalry with Macclesfield Town. They don’t even have any rivalry/animosity towards Stockport which is minutes away, never mind Chester.
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Jul 7, 2020 12:53:23 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 7, 2020 12:53:23 GMT
The club have released a statement to the effect that the National League have not confirmed that any Tier 2 games are being streamed as yet.
Looks like Alty and one or two other clubs have jumped the gun a bit.
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Jul 7, 2020 20:26:22 GMT
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Post by brianrooney26 on Jul 7, 2020 20:26:22 GMT
Our historic rivalries are with Macclesfield and Northwich Victoria (wherever they are now!) We have no rivalry whatsoever with Chester and actually get on reasonably well with local Stockport and Trafford.
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Post by prodigal on Jul 7, 2020 23:26:23 GMT
Used to watch a lot of Conference games when we were a league club under shit ownership, and found that to be true, seem to remember Staly Vegas made up the rest of the quartet and the rivalries were quite strong, yet no-one seemed to hate us or Crewe. Mind you, don't really think we've ever hated Crewe,either, but not sure we've liked Alty too much since our cup humiliation, back in the day!
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Jul 10, 2020 14:41:08 GMT
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Post by muffinthemule on Jul 10, 2020 14:41:08 GMT
Any news yet on eligibility of Louis Gray and if all players, staff etc. passed the covid19 tests
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