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Post by richard on May 3, 2017 10:50:54 GMT
Looking at the comments by NWAS; Tony Allen was appointed to a paid role by the Operations Board at the time which consisted of Tony Durkin and Jim Keegan (as mentioned by someoneq else on another thread); if you look back at the time Allen was the Secretary at FC Halifax, we appointed him as a "General Manager",obviously to fudge his appointed position at the Club. Richard states above that the Club have audit procedures in place etc, and he is something to do with the Governance side of the Club? Yet this appointment went ahead without any transparency or audit procedures. The Club is not being run honestly and openly for the owners/cfu members at present and has not been in certain areas by individuals as mentioned in the past; I suggest Richard and the Governance Committee do the honourable thing and resign from the Governance role, as their is something a miss here. Perhaps the CFU Board would kindly update the CFU Website to show us who sits on what Committee at the Club, and also how when and who decided on the appointments at the time. The only thing that is amiss here is your understanding of the role of the work group of which I am a member. We don't decide who the club appoints to what role. We may be consulted regarding some human resources issues and legal matters, but that's the limit of our input. I suggest that if you have concerns, you address them in writing to the club, rather than using this forum to show disrespect to a dedicated group of volunteers. Alternatively, raise the matter at a CFU members meeting. It would be good to meet you.
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Post by richard on May 3, 2017 11:03:08 GMT
The problem with this role Richard is that with the appointment of a CEO, and a blurring over the responsibilities (Mark Maguire openly stated that it was he that did the massive amount of work required for the Wrexham game appeals) then the appointment of Tony Allen by the Operations Board of the time stinks of cronyism. I see Mr Allen in the photographs of players signing yesterday, no doubt ensuring that the paperwork is correct for presentation to the FA. As we are both aware, and as the majority of our owners are aware, this role up until Mr Allens unadvertised appointment was carried out by a volunteer. We are now paying a salary to somebody to carry this out at a time when every penny is critical to the club. I genuinely cannot understand how with the correct governance and guidance in place, this is allowed to happen? Mark, I have replied to Yellow Card and to save repetition, you may wish to read that.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 11:07:43 GMT
Looking at the comments by NWAS; Tony Allen was appointed to a paid role by the Operations Board at the time which consisted of Tony Durkin and Jim Keegan (as mentioned by someone else on another thread); if you look back at the time Allen was the Secretary at FC Halifax, we appointed him as a "General Manager",obviously to fudge his appointed position at the Club. Richard states above that the Club have audit procedures in place etc, and he is something to do with the Governance side of the Club? Yet this appointment went ahead without any transparency or audit procedures. The Club is not being run honestly and openly for the owners/cfu members at present and has not been in certain areas by individuals as mentioned in the past; I suggest Richard and the Governance Committee do the honourable thing and resign from the Governance role, as their is something a miss here. Perhaps the CFU Board would kindly update the CFU Website to show us who sits on what Committee at the Club, and also how when and who decided on the appointments at the time. I have no problem with the governance committee, always found them straight arrows to be honest. And whilst I guess there is no ground to be gained in moaning about the people who appointed Mr Allen as they are no longer at the club, I would ask if anyone from the board could elaborate on what Mr Allen's day to day role is? I am unfortunately unable to attend CFU meetings due to work and other commitments, but do follow them online (when I can), and do also email the club from time to time. Unfortunately this issue for me needs clarifying in a more public manner, because to me it stinks. A man linked with the regime that murdered our club, who then fronted that ousted regime in an attempt to buy a fellow club, was brought in with no job advertisment or competition to replace a volunteer who was forced from his role by those who carried out the appointment. And poached from Halifax with a salary described as ridiculous by his previous club. Stinks indeed.
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Post by Newted on May 5, 2017 22:26:50 GMT
The silence on this since your post speaks volumes
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Post by Blue Boy on May 5, 2017 23:22:16 GMT
The silence on this since your post speaks volumes Indeed it does , hot air and knee jerk reactions that are soon forgotten about from nameless guests
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Post by Captain Bly on May 5, 2017 23:32:02 GMT
The silence on this since your post speaks volumes Indeed it does , hot air and knee jerk reactions that are soon forgotten about from nameless guests Oh the irony!
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Post by YELLOW CARD on May 6, 2017 14:26:31 GMT
Following on from my previous post, can the CFU Board please update information on the CFU Website to show who sits on what Committee etc, this would help enlighten potential new CFU members as they could possibly then speak to these people on Matchdays etc, and then gain some valuable insight before joining. Apologies but also noticed on the CFU Website that the Volunteers tab, has its last item as July 2015?
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Post by Sense of irony on May 6, 2017 15:42:32 GMT
Following on from my previous post, can the CFU Board please update information on the CFU Website to show who sits on what Committee etc, this would help enlighten potential new CFU members as they could possibly then speak to these people on Matchdays etc, and then gain some valuable insight before joining. Apologies but also noticed on the CFU Website that the Volunteers tab, has its last item as July 2015? Whilst we are putting requests on this forum beyond Big Si's control Please can my milkman bring two bottles of semi skimmed on Monday instead of one
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Post by btb on May 6, 2017 17:52:24 GMT
Following on from my previous post, can the CFU Board please update information on the CFU Website to show who sits on what Committee etc, this would help enlighten potential new CFU members as they could possibly then speak to these people on Matchdays etc, and then gain some valuable insight before joining. Apologies but also noticed on the CFU Website that the Volunteers tab, has its last item as July 2015? Whilst we are putting requests on this forum beyond Big Si's control Please can my milkman bring two bottles of semi skimmed on Monday instead of one There are still milk men?
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Post by Blue Boy on May 6, 2017 18:53:56 GMT
Whilst we are putting requests on this forum beyond Big Si's control Please can my milkman bring two bottles of semi skimmed on Monday instead of one There are still milk men? Yeah although I am not surprised he doesn't get much work done as he is always at mine with the wife when I get home from work
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Post by Julian Assange on May 6, 2017 21:46:28 GMT
There are still milk men? Yeah although I am not surprised he doesn't get much work done as he is always at mine with the wife when I get home from work As he is our (CFC) milkman, would somebody on the board please ask Mr McGuire for clarification about the rumours about a possible "new" contract offer to the awful Will Marsh, which a rumoured PFA inquiry is looking in to , who in the CFC full time staff failed to identify the alleged extension clause ?.
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Post by Blue boy on May 7, 2017 7:00:10 GMT
I am led to believe this extension covers 2 floors consisting of a extending living room and ensuit for Mrs Marsh's spare bedroom
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Post by CFU member on May 7, 2017 15:50:56 GMT
Yeah although I am not surprised he doesn't get much work done as he is always at mine with the wife when I get home from work As he is our (CFC) milkman, would somebody on the board please ask Mr McGuire for clarification about the rumours about a possible "new" contract offer to the awful Will Marsh, which a rumoured PFA inquiry is looking in to , who in the CFC full time staff failed to identify the alleged extension clause ?. You can ask him yourself. Email fans@chesterfc.com.
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Post by YELLOW CARD on May 10, 2017 13:14:46 GMT
Just to echo earlier thread by NWAS regarding the appointment of Allen as General Manager and Maguire as CEO, when their is obviously not a requirement for both the roles at the Club; this does indicate a lack of good football business management by the members of the Board, clearly a wastage of financial funds and somewhat a bit hypocritical when asking us fans to contribute all the time to fundraising when the Board are not cutting their cloth etc. Another full time Staff appointment; that of Colum Mcintyre as Head of the Youth Academy; how can this be a full time role, when the teams play at weekends and train at night during the week? and during the day mid week the kids will be at School/College or working; so how does this role justify a full time appointment? again seems to be a lack of football business knowledge by the Board, appreciate the salary was sponsored by a local business, but could this money have not been put to better use elsewhere in the Club ie First Team budget last season?
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Post by richard on May 10, 2017 14:18:47 GMT
Just to echo earlier thread by NWAS regarding the appointment of Allen as General Manager and Maguire as CEO, when their is obviously not a requirement for both the roles at the Club; this does indicate a lack of good football business management by the members of the Board, clearly a wastage of financial funds and somewhat a bit hypocritical when asking us fans to contribute all the time to fundraising when the Board are not cutting their cloth etc. Another full time Staff appointment; that of Colum Mcintyre as Head of the Youth Academy; how can this be a full time role, when the teams play at weekends and train at night during the week? and during the day mid week the kids will be at School/College or working; so how does this role justify a full time appointment? again seems to be a lack of football business knowledge by the Board, appreciate the salary was sponsored by a local business, but could this money have not been put to better use elsewhere in the Club ie First Team budget last season? Interesting to note that you have bumped this thread and also that you reference NWAS again. Pushing the lack of football management makes me think you have an agenda here. I wonder what that can be given the elections to the board coming up? Regarding the role of Callum , did it occur to you that the Swetenham contribution may have been conditional on how such funds were allocated? If that is the case, then how can you blame that on a lack of football management experience?
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Post by Thankfully Not Tarvin Blue on May 10, 2017 17:17:24 GMT
Richard I wouldn't waste your time to reply to him , it's more interesting watching Tarvin Blue have a conversation with himself about all things that are wrong with the world in his opinion . How many times is the limit for bumping your own comments on a thread when you realise you sound desperate and that 500 plus members and I imagine 1000 plus guests don't share your view point
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Post by tarvinblue on May 10, 2017 19:47:10 GMT
So 1,500 people disagree with me? Look forward to hearing those record season ticket sale numbers - when they go on sale of course...... Even guest posters are buying into this fantasy land now!
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Post by lachelane on May 10, 2017 20:16:48 GMT
So 1,500 people disagree with me? Look forward to hearing those record season ticket sale numbers - when they go on sale of course...... Even guest posters are buying into this fantasy land now! Well let's face it you live in self congratulation land and must be lonely there.
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Post by noddy on May 10, 2017 21:32:12 GMT
So 1,500 people disagree with me? Look forward to hearing those record season ticket sale numbers - when they go on sale of course...... Even guest posters are buying into this fantasy land now! Well let's face it you live in self congratulation land and must be lonely there. Don't understand this lambasting of Tarvinblue, yes it might sound all doom and gloom to many on here but I'd like to see people who disagree with what he actually says when you look at the facts, falling attendances, disappointing re-signing of certain players, and questioning the managers capabilities at this level. I'll hold fire on the season ticket scenario, as that's unproven as of yet but who honestly believes we will match or surpass last season's sales?? I'm not a "happy clapper" or a doom and gloom merchant, I just weigh up what I see and read about the football club and all I can see is another tough season ahead. I'll be there though, every home game regardless, I would never walk away or find something better to do with my time on a Saturday afternoon, once a blue always a blue but I do fear the worst but hope for the best!
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Post by Frustrated on May 10, 2017 21:58:54 GMT
Well let's face it you live in self congratulation land and must be lonely there. Don't understand this lambasting of Tarvinblue, yes it might sound all doom and gloom to many on here but I'd like to see people who disagree with what he actually says when you look at the facts, falling attendances, disappointing re-signing of certain players, and questioning the managers capabilities at this level. I'll hold fire on the season ticket scenario, as that's unproven as of yet but who honestly believes we will match or surpass last season's sales?? I'm not a "happy clapper" or a doom and gloom merchant, I just weigh up what I see and read about the football club and all I can see is another tough season ahead. I'll be there though, every home game regardless, I would never walk away or find something better to do with my time on a Saturday afternoon, once a blue always a blue but I do fear the worst but hope for the best! I couldn't agree more , like you I will follow the club through thick and thin, but with this manager in charge, who is becoming something of a laughing stock, we have little hope of progressing. His man management is poor, his fear of senior pros, speak to a couple of the released players; and his mystifying tactics, will make next season a disaster . It is not all about the budget .
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Post by sqzl on May 10, 2017 23:14:40 GMT
Don't understand this lambasting of Tarvinblue, yes it might sound all doom and gloom to many on here but I'd like to see people who disagree with what he actually says when you look at the facts, falling attendances, disappointing re-signing of certain players, and questioning the managers capabilities at this level. I'll hold fire on the season ticket scenario, as that's unproven as of yet but who honestly believes we will match or surpass last season's sales?? I'm not a "happy clapper" or a doom and gloom merchant, I just weigh up what I see and read about the football club and all I can see is another tough season ahead. I'll be there though, every home game regardless, I would never walk away or find something better to do with my time on a Saturday afternoon, once a blue always a blue but I do fear the worst but hope for the best! I couldn't agree more , like you I will follow the club through thick and thin, but with this manager in charge, who is becoming something of a laughing stock, we have little hope of progressing. His man management is poor, his fear of senior pros, speak to a couple of the released players; and his mystifying tactics, will make next season a disaster . It is not all about the budget . I find all name calling and blasting certain posters really boring. Everyone has an opinion and nobody has to agree with one another. If we all thought the same I'm fairly sure this forum would be a crap place to be.
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Post by tarvinblue on May 11, 2017 5:38:58 GMT
Appreciate the support. I just tell it as I see it, talking in fact not fantasy. I hope I am proved wrong on many the points I make for the sake of the club . I guess I'm just incredibly frustrated at the way things are progressing and the completely blinkered, delusional messages that filter out of the club and then infect certain gullible parts of our fanbase. Honestly, do these people see us selling enough season tickets and have enough fans coming through the turnstile to increase our budget when tickets aren't even on sale yet? Do they really believe in a manager that averaged less than a point a game over more than half the season and a squad of players so far that in most cases have either proven not good enough for this level or have proven unreliable over a season will lead us to a record points haul at this level, since reformation? I'd love to be convinced. Let's get to Christmas and hope that McCarthy and McGuire have proved that they don't live in a fantasy world after all.
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Post by Disgruntled on May 11, 2017 8:55:26 GMT
Appreciate the support. I just tell it as I see it, talking in fact not fantasy. I hope I am proved wrong on many the points I make for the sake of the club . I guess I'm just incredibly frustrated at the way things are progressing and the completely blinkered, delusional messages that filter out of the club and then infect certain gullible parts of our fanbase. Honestly, do these people see us selling enough season tickets and have enough fans coming through the turnstile to increase our budget when tickets aren't even on sale yet? Do they really believe in a manager that averaged less than a point a game over more than half the season and a squad of players so far that in most cases have either proven not good enough for this level or have proven unreliable over a season will lead us to a record points haul at this level, since reformation? I'd love to be convinced. Let's get to Christmas and hope that McCarthy and McGuire have proved that they don't live in a fantasy world after all. Good post . Dont let the small minority on here stop you from having your say . We will find out who is right when the forthcoming season unfolds .
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Post by backtottheleague on May 11, 2017 9:02:03 GMT
Having just read the chairman's outlook being positive about next season,I think it's about time all of us get behind the team from now on.forget about last season(it's gone)let's be positive about how we can help our team by all being 100% behind them for new season.I really believe all concerned at the club have realised how close we were to being relegated.me included,and am very sure they will ensure this doesn't happen again.the New players already signed and coming in I think will be of better standard than in the past.we all seem to like it better bickering about the team rather than get behind it.let's see what happens,u we might be surprised.onwards and upwards.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 11:58:44 GMT
Just to echo earlier thread by NWAS regarding the appointment of Allen as General Manager and Maguire as CEO, when their is obviously not a requirement for both the roles at the Club; this does indicate a lack of good football business management by the members of the Board, clearly a wastage of financial funds and somewhat a bit hypocritical when asking us fans to contribute all the time to fundraising when the Board are not cutting their cloth etc. Another full time Staff appointment; that of Colum Mcintyre as Head of the Youth Academy; how can this be a full time role, when the teams play at weekends and train at night during the week? and during the day mid week the kids will be at School/College or working; so how does this role justify a full time appointment? again seems to be a lack of football business knowledge by the Board, appreciate the salary was sponsored by a local business, but could this money have not been put to better use elsewhere in the Club ie First Team budget last season? Interesting to note that you have bumped this thread and also that you reference NWAS again.Pushing the lack of football management makes me think you have an agenda here. I wonder what that can be given the elections to the board coming up? Regarding the role of Callum , did it occur to you that the Swetenham contribution may have been conditional on how such funds were allocated? If that is the case, then how can you blame that on a lack of football management experience? Do elaborate?
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Post by YELLOW CARD on May 11, 2017 13:01:20 GMT
With reference to my earlier post and comments from Richard and others. Please note I have no Agenda here or do I post under another name etc. My comments raised in earlier postings are to show that the Club and the Board are not in my view, being Professional in areas where they are wasting money, ie as stated earlier their is a cross over of roles with regard to CEO and General Manager, ie money being wasted on two large salaries when one would be sufficient. Apologies to reiterate; the General manager was appointed without the role being advertised, appointed by an ex Chairman who was sitting on the Operations Board while at the time Granville was the CFU Chairman; Not done in the spirit and ethos of how the Club was reformed. Also the General Manager was Secretary of the old Chester City under SV when the Club went belly up on that basis should not be allowed anywhere near the place. And looking back in the records Richard (Lynes) was a Director of the old Club also. Again as I mentioned above, the appointment last season a full time Head of Youth Academy was again waste of finance, how can you have a full time role looking after something that is part time. For example would you put a 3G pitch down and then go and a buy a new expensive lawnmower? And it should not have any baring on how a sponsor puts money into the Club, the Club/Board are their to make those decisions, and with this and others they are not being prudent and giving us fans value for money, off the pitch and this is affecting budget for on the pitch results.!
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Post by Krankie's Ghost on May 11, 2017 13:32:29 GMT
I look at it this way, who needs replacing to improve the team (on paper) from last season?
Lynch - retained, need a backup
Vassell - a solid right back to be found if not re-signed Hughes - needs replacing Hudson - judging by most views on here sign anyone and they'll be better Astles - retained Hunt - find a solid left back, we've not had one since McGinn tbf
Shaw - retained Lloyd - question whether we should re-sign George - how is this lad still mulling over an offer? thinks he can do better? crack on. - Find a centre mid Mahon / Chappell - both retained Davies & Horwood - given 6 months Joyce - squad player Durrell - to be replaced
Alabi - 16 goals albeit including penalties. Many people were critical of him and Harry White has come in Akintunde - retained Richards - Now got lad from Gateshead.
So looking at that lot we've kept our strongest players bar Hughes (arguable on Alabi) and we're looking to sign 2-3 centre mids and perhaps another winger. Room for a 4th striker and getting 2 centre backs in to partner Astles, a right back and a left back.
White, Akintunde and Gateshead lad who i still can't remember should be improvement on this season.
Depending who comes in for those key positions of centre back and centre mid there is room to be positive for next season.
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Post by dmcnally on May 11, 2017 13:40:47 GMT
I look at it this way, who needs replacing to improve the team (on paper) from last season? Lynch - retained, need a backup Vassell - a solid right back to be found if not re-signed Hughes - needs replacing Hudson - judging by most views on here sign anyone and they'll be better Astles - retained Hunt - find a solid left back, we've not had one since McGinn tbf Shaw - retained Lloyd - question whether we should re-sign George - how is this lad still mulling over an offer? thinks he can do better? crack on. - Find a centre mid Mahon / Chappell - both retained Davies & Horwood - given 6 months Joyce - squad player Durrell - to be replaced Alabi - 16 goals albeit including penalties. Many people were critical of him and Harry White has come in Akintunde - retained Richards - Now got lad from Gateshead. So looking at that lot we've kept our strongest players bar Hughes (arguable on Alabi) and we're looking to sign 2-3 centre mids and perhaps another winger. Room for a 4th striker and getting 2 centre backs in to partner Astles, a right back and a left back. White, Akintunde and Gateshead lad who i still can't remember should be improvement on this season. Depending who comes in for those key positions of centre back and centre mid there is room to be positive for next season. Nyal Bell is the striker you forgot about. We've also got Lucas Dawson signing on soon.
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Post by richard on May 11, 2017 14:57:11 GMT
Interesting to note that you have bumped this thread and also that you reference NWAS again.Pushing the lack of football management makes me think you have an agenda here. I wonder what that can be given the elections to the board coming up? Regarding the role of Callum , did it occur to you that the Swetenham contribution may have been conditional on how such funds were allocated? If that is the case, then how can you blame that on a lack of football management experience? Do elaborate? No real elaboration needed Mark. I just said it was interesting that he referenced you again, almost as if he or she needed to add that to give his argument credence. Could be mistaken of course.
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Post by sqzl on May 11, 2017 15:07:55 GMT
I look at it this way, who needs replacing to improve the team (on paper) from last season? Lynch - retained, need a backup Vassell - a solid right back to be found if not re-signed Hughes - needs replacing Hudson - judging by most views on here sign anyone and they'll be better Astles - retained Hunt - find a solid left back, we've not had one since McGinn tbf Shaw - retained Lloyd - question whether we should re-sign George - how is this lad still mulling over an offer? thinks he can do better? crack on. - Find a centre mid Mahon / Chappell - both retained Davies & Horwood - given 6 months Joyce - squad player Durrell - to be replaced Alabi - 16 goals albeit including penalties. Many people were critical of him and Harry White has come in Akintunde - retained Richards - Now got lad from Gateshead. So looking at that lot we've kept our strongest players bar Hughes (arguable on Alabi) and we're looking to sign 2-3 centre mids and perhaps another winger. Room for a 4th striker and getting 2 centre backs in to partner Astles, a right back and a left back. White, Akintunde and Gateshead lad who i still can't remember should be improvement on this season. Depending who comes in for those key positions of centre back and centre mid there is room to be positive for next season. Nyal Bell is the striker you forgot about. We've also got Lucas Dawson signing on soon. I think White's a good signing Krankie, but it's only a good signing if he stays injury free. Personally i'm hoping he is the Richards replacement and we are looking for another striker to replace those Alabi goals. White could certainly get 20, but has to start more than the 19 games he did last season...
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