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Post by richard on May 12, 2017 13:35:45 GMT
Think Tarvin Blue has a good point I remember being told years ago in the Blues Bar by someone who knew a Board member, just after the Club reformed that Richard and his mate Durkin didn't want to get involved in the new Club as they wanted to own 49% and the new Club 51%! They were told where to go! they were never seen for ages after that; Yet he makes out on here that he is for the CFU ownership, don't think so; it's easy to say things on here and do the opposite behind the scenes! Well, if you were told years ago in the Blues Bar by someone who knew a board member it must be true......except it's not true at all. Before the CFU made it clear to all present at a meeting at the offices of QHP that they intended to run the club, a group of like minded individuals were exploring ideas to see what the options were to see football continue post SV. At that point those individuals withdrew immediately. That's the truth and to say that Tony and myself were not seen for ages after that is also wrong. During the first season after we reformed we were assisting the board at their request. I have all the documentation to support that. Anyway, I've had enough of protecting myself on here, I could be accused of protesting too much.
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Post by saltneyblueboy on May 12, 2017 15:46:35 GMT
Think Tarvin Blue has a good point I remember being told years ago in the Blues Bar by someone who knew a Board member, just after the Club reformed that Richard and his mate Durkin didn't want to get involved in the new Club as they wanted to own 49% and the new Club 51%! They were told where to go! they were never seen for ages after that; Yet he makes out on here that he is for the CFU ownership, don't think so; it's easy to say things on here and do the opposite behind the scenes! Well, if you were told years ago in the Blues Bar by someone who knew a board member it must be true......except it's not true at all. Before the CFU made it clear to all present at a meeting at the offices of QHP that they intended to run the club, a group of like minded individuals were exploring ideas to see what the options were to see football continue post SV. At that point those individuals withdrew immediately. That's the truth and to say that Tony and myself were not seen for ages after that is also wrong. During the first season after we reformed we were assisting the board at their request. I have all the documentation to support that. Anyway, I've had enough of protecting myself on here, I could be accused of protesting too much. This thread is interesting in the way it shows the level of incorrect information that is openly discussed to the detriment of all of the volunteers, past and present, and that includes all of the Board members and Chairmen too! I find it difficult to believe some statements that are made here but I can categorically state that Richard's comments above concerning that meeting at the offices of QHP to discuss ways to help the club continue are all true. It is also true that those individuals did stand back to allow the supporters' groups to plan the future of football in Chester.
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Post by Harry Lime on May 14, 2017 12:16:50 GMT
When you say rejected do you mean ignored or specifically told not required ?? Sadly I was contacted and informed that my offer of help was not required. This seems to sum up the current board. Always seem to be looking to " co-opt in people who have the right skills" etc. Yet don't seem to want to accept an offer from the guy who actually set up the current structure they are working under. In my opinion the board achieved more under his tenure, than they had under the previous chairman, or the current one. This, unfortunately, says more about them than anything else. There appears to be real absence of skills and experience on our board. Makes you wonder whether these people have the reality sense of their limitations, or actually believe they have all the right skills. I don't believe I have the skills to add anything to the board of a football club. So I don't put myself forward. Doesn't seem to stop others doing so. Makes you wonder whether a couple of individuals on there are not open to change (for the better) and hinder those coming in. I don't know any of the board personally. Only what I observe and hear at CFU meetings. Simon came across as a competent, strong individual who knew what he wanted to achieve, and how to get it done. Jonny seems a nice bloke, but I doubt he has the authority and experience to do that. Let's hope that once the Merseyrail changes are over Simon will feel the urge to get involved again on a more permanent basis.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 14:40:20 GMT
Sadly I was contacted and informed that my offer of help was not required. This seems to sum up the current board. Always seem to be looking to " co-opt in people who have the right skills" etc. Yet don't seem to want to accept an offer from the guy who actually set up the current structure they are working under. In my opinion the board achieved more under his tenure, than they had under the previous chairman, or the current one. This, unfortunately, says more about them than anything else. There appears to be real absence of skills and experience on our board. Makes you wonder whether these people have the reality sense of their limitations, or actually believe they have all the right skills. I don't believe I have the skills to add anything to the board of a football club. So I don't put myself forward. Doesn't seem to stop others doing so. Makes you wonder whether a couple of individuals on there are not open to change (for the better) and hinder those coming in. I don't know any of the board personally. Only what I observe and hear at CFU meetings. Simon came across as a competent, strong individual who knew what he wanted to achieve, and how to get it done. Jonny seems a nice bloke, but I doubt he has the authority and experience to do that. Let's hope that once the Merseyrail changes are over Simon will feel the urge to get involved again on a more permanent basis. I asked the Secretary about co-opts and was told that the board were definitely not looking to add any further bodies prior to the CFU AGM in November. I have to admit to being surprised by this, and even more so seeing the quality of candidate turned away in Simon.
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Post by adrianh on May 14, 2017 17:34:54 GMT
That's very disappointing if true. was told several had offered to be co-opted and were Being processed. I'm sure my source is not as good as yours though?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 22:01:54 GMT
That's very disappointing if true. was told several had offered to be co-opted and were Being processed. I'm sure my source is not as good as yours though? I was told at the end of April and I quote "We are not looking to co-opt anyone else now before the AGM." from the Secretary.
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Post by gone4eva on May 14, 2017 23:19:17 GMT
those who constantly criticize the board and all the volunteers, should volunteer themselves and change things hands on if they really care This is a terrible logical leap.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 8:08:26 GMT
those who constantly criticize the board and all the volunteers, should volunteer themselves and change things hands on if they really care This is a terrible logical leap. Bernieblue, Simon O did exactly that, see above. He was told his help wasn't needed. I asked regarding co-opts and was told the same. It is a long time until the AGM, but happily it would seem that the board have it all in hand.
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Post by sqzl on May 15, 2017 8:23:49 GMT
This is a terrible logical leap. Bernieblue, Simon O did exactly that, see above. He was told his help wasn't needed. I asked regarding co-opts and was told the same. It is a long time until the AGM, but happily it would seem that the board have it all in hand. Could people be forgiven for thinking that it seems a bit like 'The old boys club' at Chester at the moment. It's not what you know, its who? We always try on DC to defend the volunteers at the club for giving up their free time, yet but have people being turned away. Then on the flip side, people are joining paid roles, without a job being advertised...which would never happen at most businesses that pride themselves on being there for the community. Hmm...
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 9:03:25 GMT
I don't think that. I know one of the board members well and know him to be diligent, passionate and probably the hardest working person I have ever met. And this is a volunteer. I think that they will have reasons for not wanting help at this time.
As regards the paid roles, the one of CEO I agree totally with SO is absolutely neccessary. I also think that from the outside it isn't right to judge Mark Maguire for the length of time that he has been at the club. The vast majority of the challenges he faced would have been internal to begin with. We are starting to see his influence, with MBNA assisting the scholars programme. I really don't believe that would have happened without a professional face at the club dealing with them. Since Steve Ashton left that relationship will have been tricky, it seems it is now stronger again.
My opinions on the Tony Allen appointment and the people who appointed him are elsewhere on this site. The very fact that this man is within 10 miles of our club makes me angry, and the way the appointment was made was underhand and not needed. To remove a hardworking, extremely professional volunteer from his role and then employ somebody with Allens track record stank of nepotism to me. Something that really ought not in the DNA of any community club.
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Post by sqzl on May 15, 2017 9:54:34 GMT
I don't think that. I know one of the board members well and know him to be diligent, passionate and probably the hardest working person I have ever met. And this is a volunteer. I think that they will have reasons for not wanting help at this time. As regards the paid roles, the one of CEO I agree totally with SO is absolutely neccessary. I also think that from the outside it isn't right to judge Mark Maguire for the length of time that he has been at the club. The vast majority of the challenges he faced would have been internal to begin with. We are starting to see his influence, with MBNA assisting the scholars programme. I really don't believe that would have happened without a professional face at the club dealing with them. Since Steve Ashton left that relationship will have been tricky, it seems it is now stronger again. My opinions on the Tony Allen appointment and the people who appointed him are elsewhere on this site. The very fact that this man is within 10 miles of our club makes me angry, and the way the appointment was made was underhand and not needed. To remove a hardworking, extremely professional volunteer from his role and then employ somebody with Allens track record stank of nepotism to me. Something that really ought not in the DNA of any community club. The last paragraph is perhaps the reason people, including myself at times, can't overlook the negative to see the positives. I appreciate, people are working their nuts off behind the scenes at the club, which everyone is grateful for. It's the move for Allen, that sort of washes away some of the positives and makes it much easier for people to have a gripe with the club. I think if the football improves back to the level we were at before Christmas, people would talk half as much about the club and it's operations, so onward and upwards to next season.
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Post by Al on May 15, 2017 9:58:26 GMT
I applied back in March/April. Had a meeting with then Chairman Alan Povey which I thought went really well and the board were all aware of my CV and the passion I have to work with the board and look at improvements especially around communication, how we advertise the club, grab data to be used within the clubs database and using that to push match advertising, corporate advertising, sponsorships, summer/school holiday events, etc etc etc.
Unfortunately 24hrs after that meeting my partner was diagnosed with Breast Cancer, so that pretty much put an end to my application. I would like to add that the guys on the CFU Board particularly the then-Chair Alan, and Marion were extremely supportive. I would LOVE to re-apply at some point in the future, all being well I might be able to start looking at it this time next year maybe.
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Post by bing on May 15, 2017 10:03:33 GMT
I applied back in March/April. Had a meeting with then Chairman Alan Povey which I thought went really well and the board were all aware of my CV and the passion I have to work with the board and look at improvements especially around communication, how we advertise the club, grab data to be used within the clubs database and using that to push match advertising, corporate advertising, sponsorships, summer/school holiday events, etc etc etc. Unfortunately 24hrs after that meeting my partner was diagnosed with Breast Cancer, so that pretty much put an end to my application. I would like to add that the guys on the CFU Board particularly the then-Chair Alan, and Marion were extremely supportive. I would LOVE to re-apply at some point in the future, all being well I might be able to start looking at it this time next year maybe. Blimey Al, I hope she's doing well. Wish her all the best and hope to see your passion for Chester FC come to fruition further down the line.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 10:42:44 GMT
I applied back in March/April. Had a meeting with then Chairman Alan Povey which I thought went really well and the board were all aware of my CV and the passion I have to work with the board and look at improvements especially around communication, how we advertise the club, grab data to be used within the clubs database and using that to push match advertising, corporate advertising, sponsorships, summer/school holiday events, etc etc etc. Unfortunately 24hrs after that meeting my partner was diagnosed with Breast Cancer, so that pretty much put an end to my application. I would like to add that the guys on the CFU Board particularly the then-Chair Alan, and Marion were extremely supportive. I would LOVE to re-apply at some point in the future, all being well I might be able to start looking at it this time next year maybe. Sort of puts everything into perspective. Whilst it is a massive honour (and very enjoyable) being on the board of your football club, family is everything. Hope all is well mate.
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Post by lachelane on May 15, 2017 20:06:15 GMT
I applied back in March/April. Had a meeting with then Chairman Alan Povey which I thought went really well and the board were all aware of my CV and the passion I have to work with the board and look at improvements especially around communication, how we advertise the club, grab data to be used within the clubs database and using that to push match advertising, corporate advertising, sponsorships, summer/school holiday events, etc etc etc. Unfortunately 24hrs after that meeting my partner was diagnosed with Breast Cancer, so that pretty much put an end to my application. I would like to add that the guys on the CFU Board particularly the then-Chair Alan, and Marion were extremely supportive. I would LOVE to re-apply at some point in the future, all being well I might be able to start looking at it this time next year maybe. Sort of puts everything into perspective. Whilst it is a massive honour (and very enjoyable) being on the board of your football club, family is everything. Hope all is well mate. Absolutely. As a cancer survivor so far my advice is to live every day as best you can and damn the consequences.
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Post by Rio Doherty on May 15, 2017 20:30:55 GMT
I applied back in March/April. Had a meeting with then Chairman Alan Povey which I thought went really well and the board were all aware of my CV and the passion I have to work with the board and look at improvements especially around communication, how we advertise the club, grab data to be used within the clubs database and using that to push match advertising, corporate advertising, sponsorships, summer/school holiday events, etc etc etc. Unfortunately 24hrs after that meeting my partner was diagnosed with Breast Cancer, so that pretty much put an end to my application. I would like to add that the guys on the CFU Board particularly the then-Chair Alan, and Marion were extremely supportive. I would LOVE to re-apply at some point in the future, all being well I might be able to start looking at it this time next year maybe. I hope your partner is well and hopefully you can re-apply in the future, because it looks like you have a real passion for our club.
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Post by gone4eva on Dec 23, 2017 17:28:58 GMT
People were not happy back in April.
What really has changed?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 24, 2017 8:45:41 GMT
The same board members got re-elected virtually unchallenged. It demonstrates that people on this forum need to mobilise, join CFU and properly make the difference.
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Post by Harry Lime on Dec 24, 2017 9:53:13 GMT
The same board members got re-elected virtually unchallenged. It demonstrates that people on this forum need to mobilise, join CFU and properly make the difference. True. You can only vote for those on the list. Abstaining doesn't really achieve anything either. A few of this lot will be up for re-election in November. Maybe we just vote for anyone new, in the hope they will change things for the better. Surely we are unsustainable at National League or maybe North level for much longer without major changes in the Board.
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