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Post by Chester fan on May 1, 2017 16:46:54 GMT
So looks like McCarthy trolled us all over Hudson, for what gain exactly? It only served to make him look extremely silly and at the time it was offensive to fans who pay good money and are educated enough to know a terrible footballer when they see one. It was because we needed the best from our players until the end. This wouldn't happen if a player was told that he was not wanted at the end of the season. Not silly at all, rather it was a smart approach. |
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Post by agl on May 1, 2017 16:48:31 GMT
There's a difference between backing your players and coming out with rubbish like that. As btb says all it did was set fans against him. Anyone could see Hudson was a liability.
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Post by steveo1 on May 1, 2017 16:50:51 GMT
Stinks of keeping the cheap options and get rid of two-three of the main earners, no doubt to be filled by more cheap options.
Chappell will be in his third season now, what the hell? Oh and Luke George who is either injured, suspended or just shit, then finally Wade Joyce, a guy from the crowd can do better than him.
All the best to Johnny Hunt, good solid pro who will get a better deal elsewhere, been one of our best three players.
Durrell probably deserves another year but I can see the reasoning for getting rid.
Hudson good riddance, Killock no shock.
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Post by Diva on May 1, 2017 16:53:19 GMT
6 players who would possibly or normally get in the first 11 have been released or moved on off own accord and we have retained players that can't get in the team now.
How does that work?
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Post by steveo1 on May 1, 2017 16:56:31 GMT
6 players who would possibly or normally get in the first 11 have been released or moved on off own accord and we have retained players that can't get in the team now. How does that work? Cutting costs, lessen expectations so we can't all shout and ball when we are bottom 4. |
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Post by kyle on May 1, 2017 16:59:28 GMT
Delighted to see the back of Richards. I'm not surprised that George has been offered a new deal, but I wouldn't have. He should have been sacked after being found guilty of biting.
Has he ever had a good game? The best performance I can think of was against Woking, and he still gave the game away in the last minute
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Post by sqzl on May 1, 2017 17:01:25 GMT
6 players who would possibly or normally get in the first 11 have been released or moved on off own accord and we have retained players that can't get in the team now. How does that work? Cutting costs, lessen expectations so we can't all shout and ball when we are bottom 4. Really unsure how to feel about today's events. Seems like JM has gone out to really show us he thinks some players haven't given enough this season, but then he's offered contracts to utter garbage? Who he brings in could be crucial now, which doesn't fill Me with confident given that he had Marsh train with us two months to decide he was worthy of a contract! Not exactly an eye for talent? |
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Post by Deva Chanter on May 1, 2017 17:02:39 GMT
I personally don't think that will be the end of the list - I'd be amazed particularly if Jordan Chappell and Will Marsh have been offered new deals. Luke George also should be one of the first names on the released list.
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Post by Ian Rush's Right nostril on May 1, 2017 17:06:52 GMT
One bizarre statement in the BBC article stood out to me - Maguire was quoted as saying he totally backs manager Jon McCarthy, who has been guaranteed greater funds next season - where the hell is that coming from when we've made a loss this year!!! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39759108Evans isn't a saving on the budget because both his and Waters contracts were paid for by Swetenhams I believe? as they have agreed to do for this season as well I think? |
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Post by Chester fan on May 1, 2017 17:07:10 GMT
There's a difference between backing your players and coming out with rubbish like that. As btb says all it did was set fans against him. Anyone could see Hudson was a liability. No there is not. It would be bad management to publicly reveal that you thought a player is a liability when you want to get the best from a player. |
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Post by agl on May 1, 2017 17:14:20 GMT
You are missing my point. By all means support the players but I'm saying you don't come out and say someone is your best signing (as JM did re Hudson) when the lad is clearly struggling. Of all the statements JM has made this season that was the one that made him look most ridiculous. Of course I wouldn't expect the manager to say any player is a liability - that would would be counter productive.
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Post by Bersham Blue on May 1, 2017 17:15:12 GMT
I think Hunt must think he could get better elsewhere, which I agree, been consistent throughout the season. He is probably one of the high earners too due to his past football league experience with Cambridge.
I might be one of the minority that I agree Durrell should move on, I don't get to many games anymore because of where I study but the odd game I have gone to he has gone missing throughout and eventually been subbed. Oddly enough when I ever attended a Wrexham game with my mates he never made an impact at the Racecourse. He occasionally came up with the spectacular but needs to be more of a threat if he wants to remain at the same level. I can imagine however he would be a fantastic part time player to match his fitness level, which he's shown at Hednesford.
Shame about Richards, but its time to move on. Player with potential who let his attitude in the way. Maybe his release might kick start his career again.
Killock is a player who's young career has been plagued by injury, at Leeds, Halifax & Chester. Has ability & always vocal on the pitch, needs to see a specialist or someone similar to sort out his injury problems otherwise he may have to look into another career.
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Post by Si on May 1, 2017 17:16:45 GMT
So looks like McCarthy trolled us all over Hudson, for what gain exactly? It only served to make him look extremely silly and at the time it was offensive to fans who pay good money and are educated enough to know a terrible footballer when they see one. It was because we needed the best from our players until the end. This wouldn't happen if a player was told that he was not wanted at the end of the season. Not silly at all, rather it was a smart approach. He could have backed him in a more subtle way rather than come out with a crazy statement that he had been his best signing. It had an adverse effect as he then turned in a couple more poor performances and McCarthy comments had made the lad a target for the crowd. |
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Post by Fed up on May 1, 2017 17:23:00 GMT
According to tweets from Undercover Chester Lloyd Alibi Vassell Gone. Akintunde Richards Hudson Shaw New Deals Hughes defo tribunal. Do you actually support this club? Do you know what our players names are? Obviously a Wxm troll! |
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Post by Fed up on May 1, 2017 17:25:59 GMT
Some more from the 'Undercover Chester' newsfeed: Crawley and Charlton join the race for Alabi Kane Richards mulling over a new deal along with Hudson, whilst Vassell and Lloyd depart for now. Apparently Sam Hughes will leave via tribunal And your point in giving out this misinformation was what exactly? Try telling the truth in future. |
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Post by Rio Doherty on May 1, 2017 17:27:30 GMT
Some more from the 'Undercover Chester' newsfeed: Crawley and Charlton join the race for Alabi Kane Richards mulling over a new deal along with Hudson, whilst Vassell and Lloyd depart for now. Apparently Sam Hughes will leave via tribunal And your point in giving out this misinformation was what exactly? Try telling the truth in future. I excuse you, but all these 'rumours' were off undercover Chester, not me, so try telling the truth in future. |
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Post by dmcnally on May 1, 2017 17:32:24 GMT
My take on things.
Retained (technically offered contracts but none signed yet)
Lynch
- Great keeper, few mistakes but there again some world class saves. Young and will improve and hopefully eradicate most mistakes form his game.
Astles
- Definitely keep. Easy one, hopefully on similar money.
Horwood
- He is doing coaching and could prove useful in training and also on the pitch when needed.
George
- I've been told he is doing his coaching badges so the club want to keep him, but at his age? This early? For me, he should've been shown the door too.
Shaw
- Captain next season please. The guy is so passionate for our club, love him.
Chappell
- Had a good spell between November and January, including at least one MOTM performance from what I can remember, plus a goal or two. One to keep as we needs some width. Hopefully he can overcome his injury struggles, like the man I'm about to talk about...
Mahon
- Need to get him back fit asap. 2017 has shown how much of a miss he has been.
Akintunde
- Not seen much of him but from what we have seen, he is 10x the player Richards is! He actually runs at defences and causes panic in the oppositions back line. Shame that Alabi is leaving as I feel a strike partner like Akintunde is exactly what he needed.
Joyce
- Might get some abuse for this, but if he is on a small wage then I have no problem with him being on the bench as back up. What our squad lacks is depth and Joyce is okay to provide depth on a small wage.
Released
Richards
- Personally I was happy for him to stay on a very small wage as an option off the bench, but I'm not exactly disappointed to see the back of him! We do need 3 or 4 strikers though, and with Alabi leaving that is 2 or 3 strikers we need to find now. Probably can't get worse than Richards though! (Marsh maybe?!)
Hudson
- Makes mistakes but, like Joyce, I was happy for him to stay as a back up centre back. Although like Richards I don't mind he leaving.
Hunt
- Surprised by this a bit. Been a quality, consistent left back and that position was always sorted with him in our team. His lack of game time recently may suggest he wanted to leave and Macca reluctantly agreed?
Evans
- Don't think he was getting anywhere here. Good luck to the lad wherever he ends up.
Killock
- Wasn't happy when he was signed was to his history with injuries, and I was kind of right... hope he can regain fitness and get into the first team wherever he ends up. Fear he'll be dropping down another division or two, which is a shame for him.
Not sure on
Waters
- Little lightweight, might be something for him to work on in the summer. Definitely one to keep as he's shown sparks.
Davies
- Can't see him getting anywhere here. Don't offer a contract.
Dawson
- I've been impressed with him. Yes he's been wasteful in possession at times but he has been out of the game for a while so is still getting up to scratch, and fitness! With a summer of pre-season under his belt I really think he can kick on and provide good completion to our midfield.
Marsh
- Don't think anything needs to be said here. Get rid.
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Post by billyw on May 1, 2017 17:33:35 GMT
A big clear out down the road - wouldn't mind seeing Riley here.
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Post by Dirty Barry on May 1, 2017 17:41:18 GMT
Who is Riley from down the road
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Post by billyw on May 1, 2017 17:42:35 GMT
Who is Riley from down the road Martin Riley- centre back. |
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Post by MPW on May 1, 2017 17:43:25 GMT
Glad that Hudson & Richards gone. Killock should never had been resigned in the first place because of his history with injuries.
A bit surprised at Durrell and Hunt, but I assume they've been offered deals elsewhere. I can't say I'll lose any sleep over it though. Durrell looked great at the start of the season, but never really nailed a position whilst Hunt struggles whenever he comes up anyone with pace and doesn't block the crosses.
I'll be amazed if we offer George a new deal, he's not shown any sign of being captain material.
There will be a few twists yet I feel
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Post by Bersham Blue on May 1, 2017 17:46:19 GMT
A big clear out down the road - wouldn't mind seeing Riley here. I wouldnt mind either, was their player of the season, even though they didnt have much of a season like us. He did get majorly involved with the tussle between Richards & Jennings, so depends if there are any hard feelings, probably easier now Richards has gone. Would have a good partnership with Astles too |
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Post by Neil T on May 1, 2017 17:48:22 GMT
Glad to see the back of Durrell, Richards and Hudson. Luke George and Joyce should also go.
Jordan White released by Wrexham might be worth a look. Wouldn't be averse to Rooney returning after having to suffer watching Durrell in that role. Although he'll be going to Fylde.
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Post by TheTheremin on May 1, 2017 17:49:21 GMT
One bizarre statement in the BBC article stood out to me - Maguire was quoted as saying he totally backs manager Jon McCarthy, who has been guaranteed greater funds next season - where the hell is that coming from when we've made a loss this year!!! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39759108Evans isn't a saving on the budget because both his and Waters contracts were paid for by Swetenhams I believe? as they have agreed to do for this season as well I think? Depending on what we get for Hughes we could be sitting on our biggest profit since reforming. |
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Post by tarvinblue on May 1, 2017 17:49:59 GMT
There's a difference between backing your players and coming out with rubbish like that. As btb says all it did was set fans against him. Anyone could see Hudson was a liability. No there is not. It would be bad management to publicly reveal that you thought a player is a liability when you want to get the best from a player. And ultimately that fantastic man management led to outstanding outcomes on the pitch. |
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Post by sqzl on May 1, 2017 17:54:48 GMT
Would be interested to know how many goals came from our midfielders that have been retained? Goals from midfield are very important. I'm not overly arsed that Durrell has gone, but We do need to replace those goals he brought, as well as some energy. Have York got anyone we could realistically afford? Or Southport given they are close. Id take Allen.
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Post by Chester Fan on May 1, 2017 17:58:28 GMT
One bizarre statement in the BBC article stood out to me - Maguire was quoted as saying he totally backs manager Jon McCarthy, who has been guaranteed greater funds next season - where the hell is that coming from when we've made a loss this year!!! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39759108Evans isn't a saving on the budget because both his and Waters contracts were paid for by Swetenhams I believe? as they have agreed to do for this season as well I think? There is a 13 minute interview with Mark McGuire , with the quotes you mention, in the middle of the BBC article. |
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Post by ted the count on May 1, 2017 18:26:47 GMT
Rooney to Fylde??? Surely to god with their money they're setting their sight's higher than John Rooney?
Made up Richards has gone - waste of space in the conference.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 18:32:17 GMT
Mixed bag of stayers and leavers with surprises on both sides
Maybe Jon is thinking up a brand new formation with brand new tactics that will turn some of the retained guys into world-beaters and make Chester an unstoppable force next season.
On the other hand..........
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 18:34:17 GMT
Another thought
If, as MM is saying, "money will be found", can we sort out the Assistant Manager role?
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