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Post by MPW on May 2, 2017 21:32:56 GMT
Players can't always have it their own way, they too could have easily changed their minds and gone elsewhere, it happens all the time. They were a big part of the team that failed so badly since Christmas, so I'm glad that the club has decided to freshen things up although I'd have liked to have seen a few more names on the released list.
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Post by Singing the Blues on May 2, 2017 21:45:51 GMT
Even after some of the positive news today it still concerns me JM is at the helm for next season, I would have rather a new manager who could have spent the budget on the players they want.
I just hope the board monitor the situation and don't leave it to long if it all goes tits up
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Post by Jeff on May 2, 2017 21:46:00 GMT
Interesting it's the wrexham clique, the bad attitude and the injury prone players going (as well as the kid)
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Post by dmcnally on May 2, 2017 21:53:46 GMT
Players can't always have it their own way, they too could have easily changed their minds and gone elsewhere, it happens all the time. They were a big part of the team that failed so badly since Christmas, so I'm glad that the club has decided to freshen things up although I'd have liked to have seen a few more names on the released list. We could still see a few more exit. In fact I'm 90% sure we will see another exit. They have all been offered a new contract, whether they sign it is another matter. If they don't then we will see more exits. For all we know the club may have offered reduced terms to George, Joyce etc and they could leave... |
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Post by Pauline M on May 2, 2017 21:54:36 GMT
Seen Durrel has gone onto twitter to thank the fans and wishing us well. I have noticed he's another player that was offered a new contract in January only to have it withdrawn. Him and Hunt were decent players for us and have been pretty much been mistreated here. I have read somewhere on Facebook that Hudson claims the same. Offered contract in January only to have it withdrawn. Obviously no idea if true but if it is it does feel a pretty shabby way to deal with people. Whether you rate these players or not they have a right to know what is happening with them, and it is their job/livelihood on the line. Hopefully they all get something sorted (I'm sure they will). And before anyone starts I don't think they all deserved a contract or am that disappointed they've gone, but more that they were offered a contract and had it withdrawn. Makes you wonder if something has gone on. Also if they were offered and happy with contracts in January why they didn't sign them then. No idea how contracts work but if you were offered a (good) contract 4 months ago and still havent signed then maybe that sends a message that you are not committed to the club. Probably too simplistic a theory and I am personally sorry to see Jonny Hunt leave. Blaine was obviously the cheer leader in the dressing room too from what I saw on Saturday evening so will be missed. But there must be two sides to every sad story. |
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Post by agl on May 2, 2017 22:42:36 GMT
There's nothing sad about Hudson leaving Pauline!
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 3, 2017 7:07:19 GMT
The shocking football during the second half of the season, and the subsequent alarming drop in attendances, has obviously battered the budget for us to withdraw contract offers to three of our top earners in Hunt, Durrell and Hudson.
Combine this with the promotion of three youth team players (well-deserved, I must add) and the streamlining of the coaching staff (notably Tom Shaw's new role) and one can fairly assume that JMcC has an even tighter budget to work with than he did last season despite all the rhetoric by MM. This is where JMcC will (or won't) earn his crust, getting the best out of a limited squad on a shoestring. I expect the likes of George and Joyce to extend deals as they're cheap extra bodies to supplement the squad.
I very much doubt the three "big names" have been discarded because of their performances, seeing as JMcC refused to lay any blame on them throughout that period. I suspect it's all down to reduced funds.
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Post by soulseal on May 3, 2017 8:20:09 GMT
The shocking football during the second half of the season, and the subsequent alarming drop in attendances, has obviously battered the budget for us to withdraw contract offers to three of our top earners in Hunt, Durrell and Hudson. Combine this with the promotion of three youth team players (well-deserved, I must add) and the streamlining of the coaching staff (notably Tom Shaw's new role) and one can fairly assume that JMcC has an even tighter budget to work with than he did last season despite all the rhetoric by MM. This is where JMcC will (or won't) earn his crust, getting the best out of a limited squad on a shoestring. I expect the likes of George and Joyce to extend deals as they're cheap extra bodies to supplement the squad. I very much doubt the three "big names" have been discarded because of their performances, seeing as JMcC refused to lay any blame on them throughout that period. I suspect it's all down to reduced funds. This is a dire assessment of yesterday's news. Hudson gone is good news every which way you want to look at it, Durrell very much more mixed response, (I would have been happy to keep him for his contribution) but if a high earner, then fair enough. Hunt will be harder to replace, but if a high earner better chance to. What we don't know is what impact these guys had to the team, good or bad. Very pleased for the young lads coming through, they present a much better chance for Chester recouping funds in future transfers. There are plenty of good footballers out there for our level and we should Back ourselves in this recruitment drive. I am am sure some of those pondering new contracts are looking at lower values. |
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Post by Disgruntled on May 3, 2017 8:30:12 GMT
Even after some of the positive news today it still concerns me JM is at the helm for next season, I would have rather a new manager who could have spent the budget on the players they want. I just hope the board monitor the situation and don't leave it to long if it all goes tits up Agreed , If we are in the bottom half at the end of November he should step down or be given the bullet . We are way bigger than conference north |
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Post by Blue Skies on May 3, 2017 9:01:18 GMT
The shocking football during the second half of the season, and the subsequent alarming drop in attendances, has obviously battered the budget for us to withdraw contract offers to three of our top earners in Hunt, Durrell and Hudson. Combine this with the promotion of three youth team players (well-deserved, I must add) and the streamlining of the coaching staff (notably Tom Shaw's new role) and one can fairly assume that JMcC has an even tighter budget to work with than he did last season despite all the rhetoric by MM. This is where JMcC will (or won't) earn his crust, getting the best out of a limited squad on a shoestring. I expect the likes of George and Joyce to extend deals as they're cheap extra bodies to supplement the squad. I very much doubt the three "big names" have been discarded because of their performances, seeing as JMcC refused to lay any blame on them throughout that period. I suspect it's all down to reduced funds. Another reason could be the appointment of Shaw as assistant manager. He may think that they are not up to Conference standard and strongly put this argument to JM. If he has I would agree with him. I agree about the cheap bodies being needed so would not be alarmed to see George and Joyce stay as we should never be paying good money to those not in the first 11. |
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Post by Common Sense on May 3, 2017 11:37:55 GMT
And Jordan Chappell Resign's. It was going so well.
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 3, 2017 11:39:52 GMT
The shocking football during the second half of the season, and the subsequent alarming drop in attendances, has obviously battered the budget for us to withdraw contract offers to three of our top earners in Hunt, Durrell and Hudson. Combine this with the promotion of three youth team players (well-deserved, I must add) and the streamlining of the coaching staff (notably Tom Shaw's new role) and one can fairly assume that JMcC has an even tighter budget to work with than he did last season despite all the rhetoric by MM. This is where JMcC will (or won't) earn his crust, getting the best out of a limited squad on a shoestring. I expect the likes of George and Joyce to extend deals as they're cheap extra bodies to supplement the squad. I very much doubt the three "big names" have been discarded because of their performances, seeing as JMcC refused to lay any blame on them throughout that period. I suspect it's all down to reduced funds. This is a dire assessment of yesterday's news. Hudson gone is good news every which way you want to look at it, Durrell very much more mixed response, (I would have been happy to keep him for his contribution) but if a high earner, then fair enough. Hunt will be harder to replace, but if a high earner better chance to. What we don't know is what impact these guys had to the team, good or bad. Very pleased for the young lads coming through, they present a much better chance for Chester recouping funds in future transfers. There are plenty of good footballers out there for our level and we should Back ourselves in this recruitment drive. I am am sure some of those pondering new contracts are looking at lower values. Taking away what we may feel about the players' quality it's still a case of getting rid of the top earners - the fact that we've removed contract offers for them later down the line renders the assumption that the budget has reduced since then a fair assumption IMO. Agree about the youth players - great to get them snapped up early but it's still cheap. Also agree that the backups should be cheap. I was merely pointing out the fact that we appear to be cutting our cloth further because we have to (terrible attendances from January to May), that's all. Jordan Chappell next to sign on incidentally. Just need George and Joyce to confirm and then Maguire can et those season ticket details out... |
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Post by Wrexham Supporter on May 3, 2017 11:39:53 GMT
Hudson was one of the ringleaders of the p!ss heads when he was at Wrexham and I would imagine JM has bombed him out also due to this and the fact he's crap. Was also rumours about certain substances regarding him. He's a donkey anyway so your well shot of him.
Keates has stated already that whilst he is still mates with Hunt he won't be signing him. Big phew on that one. He's bang average at his very best.
Why don't you start a fund to add to your budget like we have? You might be surprised at how much can be raised. Or is faith in your current manager too low for this to be feasible?
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 3, 2017 11:40:52 GMT
This is a dire assessment of yesterday's news. Hudson gone is good news every which way you want to look at it, Durrell very much more mixed response, (I would have been happy to keep him for his contribution) but if a high earner, then fair enough. Hunt will be harder to replace, but if a high earner better chance to. What we don't know is what impact these guys had to the team, good or bad. Very pleased for the young lads coming through, they present a much better chance for Chester recouping funds in future transfers. There are plenty of good footballers out there for our level and we should Back ourselves in this recruitment drive. I am am sure some of those pondering new contracts are looking at lower values. Taking away what we may feel about the players' quality it's still a case of getting rid of the top earners - the fact that we've removed contract offers for them later down the line renders the assumption that the budget has reduced since then a fair assumption IMO. Agree about the youth players - great to get them snapped up early but it's still cheap. Also agree that the backups should be cheap. I was merely pointing out the fact that we appear to be cutting our cloth further because we have to (terrible attendances from January to May), that's all. Jordan Chappell next to sign on incidentally. Just need George and Joyce to confirm and then Maguire can et those season ticket details out... |
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Post by Arrogant Blue on May 3, 2017 11:57:55 GMT
Jordan Chappell is a good sub to bring on against tired legs. He made an impact as a sub during the good run of form. What this team had during the dreadful run was a lack of pace hence the hoofball and failure to get to the touchline and put some crosses in.
As a starter he aint the best but I am sure he started in our last home win against Aldershot. If memory serves me right he even scored!
How do we know Hudson, Durrell et al were big earners? Wasn't Hudson released by Wrexham and was without a club for several weeks before Chester took him on? That would surely be a case of being able to get him in for a low wage?
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Post by sqzl on May 3, 2017 12:01:24 GMT
Must admit, i don't rate Chappell at all and would rather play Waters out wide. That said, if he is cheap and having him allows us to sign a far better player, then it's fine. We don;t want the squad too thin though, could bite us in the arse again if we have no options.
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Post by chesterblue1970 on May 3, 2017 13:01:32 GMT
liam davies resigns on a 6 month deal
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Post by chesterblue1970 on May 3, 2017 13:03:12 GMT
kane richards has gone on to twitter and said he was another player offered a new contract in January
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Post by sqzl on May 3, 2017 13:11:01 GMT
kane richards has gone on to twitter and said he was another player offered a new contract in January They were all offered deals when we we're touching on playoffs, for them to be removed after we lose 16/21 games is perfectly understandable, i wouldnt say the club have done anything wrong. Not sure about 6 month deal for davies...it means if he does well he will probably leave and we mustn't be too hopeful he will if we aren't giving him long. |
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Post by chesterblue1970 on May 3, 2017 13:16:13 GMT
kane richards has gone on to twitter and said he was another player offered a new contract in January They were all offered deals when we we're touching on playoffs, for them to be removed after we lose 16/21 games is perfectly understandable, i wouldnt say the club have done anything wrong. Not sure about 6 month deal for davies...it means if he does well he will probably leave and we mustn't be too hopeful he will if we aren't giving him long. totally agree on the kane situation in 41 games since he's been here how many of them has he played well in |
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Post by dmcnally on May 3, 2017 13:16:56 GMT
I'm happy with the Chappell news. He was brilliant late 2016 before his unfortunate double injury. Hoping he can rediscover that form. We've lacked width and pace massively these past few months and that is exactly what Chappell will bring to this team. Maybe use as an option off the bench, but regardless, I can't see him being on a big wage so another body in our team to give us more depth.
As for Davies, he is also an option off the bench and more depth, something we've lacked, on what I am sure is not a significant wage. Good move, as is only offering him 6 months, so that we can get his wage off the list should he be a bit of a failure. Hoping he can improve once he has pre-season under his belt, as for Chappell! 👍🏼
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Post by not a joyce fan on May 3, 2017 13:49:47 GMT
i'd of thought joyce would of been the first to resign but apparently he's mulling over a contract surely he's not going to hold the club to ransom and ask for more
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Post by Rio Doherty on May 3, 2017 14:38:28 GMT
I'm happy with the two deals.
Chappell is a good impact sub who uses width which is what we have been lacking recently. It was a shame for him to be injured as he was very consistent towards the back end of last year but if he is on a low wage I am more than happy to see him stay.
I'm pleased with the Davies one too. I thought that he did deserve to warrant a contract at the end of the season. Don't forget he was played out of position but he still scored that powerful header against Woking. A six month contract is just about right as he will probably be on a low wage and if he has a bad patch the club could decide let him go whereas if he was on a longer contract he would have to stay. Of course, that hopefully won't happen and I'm happy they have both signed on.
What strikes me is that Macca is very keen to get everything done now which can restore optimism to some of the apathetic supporters. Unlike last year when we had a long wait for our first signing. Credit must go to him.
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Post by bing on May 3, 2017 14:57:22 GMT
I've never minded Chappell as he does offer us pace.
Let's face it, lightening fast wingers who can dribble past opponents and cross the ball wouldn't be playing at this standard as there aren't many of them around. The threat of his pace does allow more space and it's no coincidence in my opinion that we tend to play with more of an attacking threat with him in the side, even if he does give the ball away at times.
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Post by peterkaysock on May 3, 2017 15:00:53 GMT
Martin Riley would be a good signing from Wrexham
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Post by gomango on May 3, 2017 15:54:44 GMT
Anyone else wondering if JM is actually pulling the strings with these in and outs at the moment? Just read the Chronicle regards the new signings and his body language and general demeanour in the pictures are hardly of someone happy with what he's doing (hand in pocket, shoulders slumped, no facial expression although there is a wry smile with Astles).
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Post by Oaks Blue on May 3, 2017 15:59:38 GMT
Anyone else wondering if JM is actually pulling the strings with these in and outs at the moment? Just read the Chronicle regards the new signings and his body language and general demeanour in the pictures are hardly of someone happy with what he's doing (hand in pocket, shoulders slumped, no facial expression although there is a wry smile with Astles). I thought the same, he looks like his dog just died. cheer up man, just be happy you still have a job! |
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Post by soulseal on May 3, 2017 16:09:04 GMT
Anyone else wondering if JM is actually pulling the strings with these in and outs at the moment? Just read the Chronicle regards the new signings and his body language and general demeanour in the pictures are hardly of someone happy with what he's doing (hand in pocket, shoulders slumped, no facial expression although there is a wry smile with Astles). You're assessing McCarthy on how Photogenic he is? |
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 3, 2017 16:26:15 GMT
How do we know Hudson, Durrell et al were big earners? Wasn't Hudson released by Wrexham and was without a club for several weeks before Chester took him on? That would surely be a case of being able to get him in for a low wage? The idea behind my assumption is that the manager has staunchly defended his players despite the poor run so I doubt they have been carted off due to the terrible second half of the season on the pitch. You could argue why have the players not yet agreed a deal offered in January, I suppose. Four of the six released seem miffed that the contract offer has been pulled from them now. I suspect our budget can no longer afford them. Why would the manager release four of his preferred starting X1 (including "BEST EVER SIGNING" Hudson) yet keep hold of the likes of Chappell and Davies, probably George and Joyce too? Cheap options. |
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Post by gomango on May 3, 2017 16:28:14 GMT
Just taken this from my Kinesics (study of body language) that I did a few years ago.
Hands in pockets hands / arms disinterest, boredom The obvious signal is one of inaction, and not being ready for action. Those who stand with hands in pockets - in situations where there is an expectation for people to be enthusiastic and ready for action - demonstrate apathy and lack of interest for the situation.
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