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Post by CH3STER on Dec 27, 2023 15:35:20 GMT
It must be costing us, even if we are short of capacity, it will be putting off the floating fan who might decide to turn up at the last minute to pay on the gate, but won't want to book in advance. Getting really sick of this SAGa. Pay at the gate has gone forever. I’d hope pay on the day at the ground hasn’t though? Turn up at the ticket office, hand over cash and they print you a QR code or give you a physical ticket?
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Dec 27, 2023 15:44:35 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 27, 2023 15:44:35 GMT
Yeah that’ll stay, and so would paying on card or Apple Pay etc at the turnstyle.
Physical cash at the turnstyle will have gone forever.
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Post by southernblue on Dec 27, 2023 17:38:21 GMT
Absolutely no reason after the capacity is increased why people shouldn't be able to pay at the gate, even if it is by phone or card.
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Dec 27, 2023 18:09:31 GMT
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Post by RonD on Dec 27, 2023 18:09:31 GMT
Yeah that’ll stay, and so would paying on card or Apple Pay etc at the turnstyle. Physical cash at the turnstyle will have gone forever. Actually that's what I meant to say . . . no cash.
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Dec 27, 2023 18:20:46 GMT
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Post by league2 on Dec 27, 2023 18:20:46 GMT
I believe there was less than 40 tickets left unsold for yesterday's game,the problem is we have given away so many season tickets and they are not turning up for the games.im not sure what the restricted capacity is say 3,200 so thats 400 who never turned up
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Dec 27, 2023 18:22:52 GMT
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Post by Rio Doherty on Dec 27, 2023 18:22:52 GMT
I believe there was less than 40 tickets left unsold for yesterday's game,the problem is we have given away so many season tickets and they are not turning up for the games.im not sure what the restricted capacity is say 3,200 so thats 400 who never turned up 3,368.
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Post by moldcestrian on Dec 27, 2023 18:41:23 GMT
I believe there was less than 40 tickets left unsold for yesterday's game,the problem is we have given away so many season tickets and they are not turning up for the games.im not sure what the restricted capacity is say 3,200 so thats 400 who never turned up 3,368. So at 3368 and yesterday we had 40 left, meant about 400-500 who have ST or match tickets didn’t show. Surely this isn’t right?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 27, 2023 18:52:48 GMT
Could be right, quite a lot of season tickets have gone to Under 12s and also schools. Wouldn’t have thought many of them would’ve been used yesterday. I only took one of my three season ticket holding kids for example.
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Post by Anders on Dec 27, 2023 18:54:50 GMT
Could be right, quote a lot of season tickets have gone to Under 12s and also schools. 280 are school season tickets, 70 schools have 4 each. Doubt many, if any of them at all were issued out over the holidays.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Dec 27, 2023 19:56:58 GMT
Also Warrington Town almost sold out their allocation of 444, but the away figure was announced as 359.
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Post by league2 on Dec 27, 2023 20:26:22 GMT
When the restrictions are lifted and the ground is back up to 5/6000 giving away the season tickets and them not turning up is not an issue.. I'm not against giving away to the kids season tickets its a great thing gets them into football, but with these restrictions and people reading all stands sold out we definitely lose a lot of fans who would walk up on the day
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Post by sammychester on Dec 27, 2023 20:39:02 GMT
SAG need to get their arses into gear now. Everyone is fed up of them
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Post by banksy on Dec 27, 2023 22:12:22 GMT
Evening all,
Okay, I've probably explained this before but will do so again for the benefit of those who may not have read it before.
We're waiting on the restrictions being lifted to a point that will hopefully allow us to have just over 4000 allowed inside the ground.
The current position with ticketing is that with the benefit of having online tickets that are scanned inside the turnstiles We are able to see how many of our season ticket holders turn up for home games.
The information available allows us to position the ticketing in a way that it takes into account numbers unlikely to attend (for example schools season tickets), we also are able to look at how many away fans are likely to be attending. That's my ongoing jigsaw as far as the west stand is concerned.
With regards to Pay at the turnstiles, once we have that restriction lifted then we'll hopefully have a Return to cards/phones being an option to pay at the turnstiles and not just the ticket office.
We have been working on new card machines during the restrictions to hopefully speed the process up once we have the green light on an increased capacity.
Hope that puts some answers to questions out there.
Thanks Jeff
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Post by noddy on Dec 27, 2023 22:25:29 GMT
Thanks for the reply Jeff. Can we be informed as to what we have to do as a club to conform with these restrictions. It all seems a bit cloak and dagger and its as if the SAG have us over a barrel with the fan base being none the wiser.
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Post by borussiachester on Dec 27, 2023 22:39:59 GMT
Thanks for the reply Jeff. Can we be informed as to what we have to do as a club to conform with these restrictions. It all seems a bit cloak and dagger and its as if the SAG have us over a barrel with the fan base being none the wiser. I want to say that perhaps the club should issue a statement to try and clear up some of the confusion, but I get the impression that the SAG’s lack of transparency has left even the board scratching their heads a bit over what more needs to be done. There doesn’t seem to be any kind of roadmap for the lifting of restrictions, or any clear criteria to meet. Imagine if we ended up with a home playoff tie at the current capacity…
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Post by banksy on Dec 27, 2023 23:10:04 GMT
Thanks for the reply Jeff. Can we be informed as to what we have to do as a club to conform with these restrictions. It all seems a bit cloak and dagger and its as if the SAG have us over a barrel with the fan base being none the wiser. I want to say that perhaps the club should issue a statement to try and clear up some of the confusion, but I get the impression that the SAG’s lack of transparency has left even the board scratching their heads a bit over what more needs to be done. There doesn’t seem to be any kind of roadmap for the lifting of restrictions, or any clear criteria to meet. Imagine if we ended up with a home playoff tie at the current capacity… It's more of a timing issue and one that hopefully we'll see movement on next month. In terms of what we've had to do, this was outlined at a recent CFU meeting, but at the end of the day we needed to prove as a club we can stage games with large crowds safely and not have a repeat of the Brackley fixture. It's come at a cost to the club and an unwanted headache too, but we have put our case forward as a club and now we just await the green light to increase. Jeff
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Post by yossergolf on Dec 27, 2023 23:30:31 GMT
I want to say that perhaps the club should issue a statement to try and clear up some of the confusion, but I get the impression that the SAG’s lack of transparency has left even the board scratching their heads a bit over what more needs to be done. There doesn’t seem to be any kind of roadmap for the lifting of restrictions, or any clear criteria to meet. Imagine if we ended up with a home playoff tie at the current capacity… It's more of a timing issue and one that hopefully we'll see movement on next month. In terms of what we've had to do, this was outlined at a recent CFU meeting, but at the end of the day we needed to prove as a club we can stage games with large crowds safely and not have a repeat of the Brackley fixture. It's come at a cost to the club and an unwanted headache too, but we have put our case forward as a club and now we just await the green light to increase. Jeff I think part of the problem is a total lack of transparency on this from the SAG group. Surely a timetable of what is required, what the acceptance criteria will be and when answers will be provided is not too much to ask.
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Post by Lobster on Dec 27, 2023 23:54:16 GMT
I want to say that perhaps the club should issue a statement to try and clear up some of the confusion, but I get the impression that the SAG’s lack of transparency has left even the board scratching their heads a bit over what more needs to be done. There doesn’t seem to be any kind of roadmap for the lifting of restrictions, or any clear criteria to meet. Imagine if we ended up with a home playoff tie at the current capacity… It's more of a timing issue and one that hopefully we'll see movement on next month. In terms of what we've had to do, this was outlined at a recent CFU meeting, but at the end of the day we needed to prove as a club we can stage games with large crowds safely and not have a repeat of the Brackley fixture.It's come at a cost to the club and an unwanted headache too, but we have put our case forward as a club and now we just await the green light to increase. Jeff That seems very difficult to do if they won't let us have a large crowd in the first place! Thanks for the updates Jeff. Appreciate there's only so much you can say.
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Post by CH3STER on Dec 28, 2023 17:52:26 GMT
Evening all, Okay, I've probably explained this before but will do so again for the benefit of those who may not have read it before. We're waiting on the restrictions being lifted to a point that will hopefully allow us to have just over 4000 allowed inside the ground. The current position with ticketing is that with the benefit of having online tickets that are scanned inside the turnstiles We are able to see how many of our season ticket holders turn up for home games. The information available allows us to position the ticketing in a way that it takes into account numbers unlikely to attend (for example schools season tickets), we also are able to look at how many away fans are likely to be attending. That's my ongoing jigsaw as far as the west stand is concerned. With regards to Pay at the turnstiles, once we have that restriction lifted then we'll hopefully have a Return to cards/phones being an option to pay at the turnstiles and not just the ticket office. We have been working on new card machines during the restrictions to hopefully speed the process up once we have the green light on an increased capacity. Hope that puts some answers to questions out there. Thanks Jeff Cheers Jeff
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Post by moldcestrian on Dec 29, 2023 12:06:03 GMT
Sort of linked, sort of not.
But our Farsley tickets aren’t even available to buy yet and it’s 8 days before the game?
The sooner the restrictions are lifted and pay at the gate returns, we may see an extra 150-200 on the gates.
I know Jeff’s explained we’re doing all we can but it’s gone too far. Do we tiptoe round them to not upset them?
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Post by RonD on Dec 29, 2023 12:18:28 GMT
Sort of linked, sort of not. But our Farsley tickets aren’t even available to buy yet and it’s 8 days before the game? The sooner the restrictions are lifted and pay at the gate returns, we may see an extra 150-200 on the gates. I know Jeff’s explained we’re doing all we can but it’s gone too far. Do we tiptoe round them to not upset them? Rushall you mean??
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Post by moldcestrian on Dec 29, 2023 12:50:45 GMT
Sort of linked, sort of not. But our Farsley tickets aren’t even available to buy yet and it’s 8 days before the game? The sooner the restrictions are lifted and pay at the gate returns, we may see an extra 150-200 on the gates. I know Jeff’s explained we’re doing all we can but it’s gone too far. Do we tiptoe round them to not upset them? Rushall you mean?? Rushall sorry yes. These tinpot teams confuse me.
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Post by Lobster on Dec 29, 2023 16:35:36 GMT
Sort of linked, sort of not. But our Farsley tickets aren’t even available to buy yet and it’s 8 days before the game? The sooner the restrictions are lifted and pay at the gate returns, we may see an extra 150-200 on the gates. I know Jeff’s explained we’re doing all we can but it’s gone too far. Do we tiptoe round them to not upset them? There was meant to be a review of the capacity restrictions in November. That review either didn't happen, or it did happen and it was decided not to lift them for some reason. Either way, an explanation would be nice, but it seems the SAG doesn't work that way. For a group that have such influence on our games, you would just expect them to have a bit more visibility. Do they send SAG representatives to CFU meetings? Do they have meetings of their own, and do they take minutes of them?
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Post by Rio Doherty on Dec 29, 2023 16:56:21 GMT
Tickets are now on sale for our next two home games. No change to the capacity by the looks of it.
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Post by nlb17 on Dec 30, 2023 12:13:09 GMT
Rushall sorry yes. These tinpot teams confuse me. I think this is definitely the case. I was travelling to the game on Boxing Day from London, and wasn't sure if I would make it in time because of the roads. So I either had to risk paying £50 plus for three tickets and missing the game, or driving up and hoping there were some still available when I knew I was going to make it. I was desperate to see the game, so paid in advance, but obviously there would be plenty who wouldn't take the risk. As an aside, watching Charlie Caton score the late goal and wheel away to us in the South Stand to celebrate was worth the entrance fee alone!
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Post by welshrover on Dec 30, 2023 23:35:17 GMT
I was talking to a lady tonight, not sure if she was part of the SAG group but they were down at her waist!
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Post by trev on Jan 1, 2024 22:22:26 GMT
Do warrington have a SAG? How were away arrangements signed off? Interesting Tank trap excavation on far side marked off fron 1m wide spectator area by tape and handily devised crush hazard for 400 fans to exit ground through single turnstile, whilst cheshire police looked on uselessly. Have to wander how these away arrangements were signed off for WTFCs benefit and yet we are still forced to operate under draconoan and unecessary restrictions.
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Post by Anders on Jan 1, 2024 23:16:57 GMT
Having no access to an emergency exit is most certainly flouting the safety regs. If there was a serious incident we would have had to go on the pitch. Also, if we'd scored some of us would have fallen in to the the strip of land being excavated or on to one of the spikes with the tape running across.
You see things like that and what happened at Fylde today and they are genuine issues. What's going on here now isn't anything to do with any concern for safety.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Jan 2, 2024 8:18:44 GMT
Meeting this week isn't there?
Getting out of that dump yesterday was laughable.
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Post by muffinthemule on Jan 2, 2024 9:51:39 GMT
About time that ground criteria was bought into promotion issues Too many of these lower league teams are over funded by their owners to gain promotion but most are playing on park pitches with little or no spectators facilities. Clubs should not be admitted to divisions and then given 1 or2 years to bring their ground Upto specification. They should be refused admission until their ground is good enough. Make these owners invest in the 'club' and not just the 'team'
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