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Post by devadiva on Jan 17, 2024 18:57:10 GMT
Anyone know when we may see Caton back? Him and Peers will be our strongest attack and whether or not you think it strong enough we need them both on the pitch ASAP as part of a plan to “stop the rot” and get things back on track. Adam Thomas too, I think he's a cracking player Yep - and a rough date for his return wouldn’t go amiss either.
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Post by jackblue7 on Jan 17, 2024 19:11:50 GMT
Caton badly missed hopefully he will be back soon
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Post by Harry Lime on Jan 17, 2024 19:17:59 GMT
Adam Thomas too, I think he's a cracking player Yep - and a rough date for his return wouldn’t go amiss either. Cal sort of gave an update last week. He's needed an operation on his arm and will miss most of the rest of the season.
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Post by bonecrusher on Jan 17, 2024 19:19:45 GMT
we just need to score goals against these poor sides Obviously. The point is that we don't.
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Post by Moltisanti on Jan 17, 2024 19:20:24 GMT
Adam Thomas too, I think he's a cracking player Yep - and a rough date for his return wouldn’t go amiss either. Maybe listen to his interviews and you’ll know? Or you want him to give you an email?
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Post by tonya on Jan 17, 2024 23:06:46 GMT
Seems as if we are destined to be in this league next season, barring a miracle. Many interesting posts as to our problems but reality is we will be where we are next season. Losing to Buxton is depressing.
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Post by Moltisanti on Jan 18, 2024 6:13:45 GMT
Seems as if we are destined to be in this league next season, barring a miracle. Many interesting posts as to our problems but reality is we will be where we are next season. Losing to Buxton is depressing. “A miracle” 😂 I preferred you as Tonya.
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Post by moldcestrian on Jan 18, 2024 10:07:59 GMT
I know it’s been shite and the Gloucester win was more likely due to them being the worst team I’ve seen, but there’s some serious over reactions here about ‘missing playoffs’ and ‘another season in this league’
Go take a look at the table. We’ve been poor to average for a few months and we’re right in the mix for the playoffs….
3 points Saturday and we’re back at it.
Last thing we need is this defeatist attitude as a fan base. Fucks me off. We’re all pissed off after a freezing midweek game in the immediate aftermath but a few days after you should have a level head.
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Post by Moltisanti on Jan 18, 2024 10:11:36 GMT
I know it’s been shite and the Gloucester win was more likely due to them being the worst team I’ve seen, but there’s some serious over reactions here about ‘missing playoffs’ and ‘another season in this league’ Go take a look at the table. We’ve been poor to average for a few months and we’re right in the mix for the playoffs…. 3 points Saturday and we’re back at it. Last thing we need is this defeatist attitude as a fan base. Fucks me off. We’re all pissed off after a freezing midweek game in the immediate aftermath but a few days after you should have a level head. Spot on.
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Post by agl on Jan 18, 2024 10:54:38 GMT
I know it’s been shite and the Gloucester win was more likely due to them being the worst team I’ve seen, but there’s some serious over reactions here about ‘missing playoffs’ and ‘another season in this league’ Go take a look at the table. We’ve been poor to average for a few months and we’re right in the mix for the playoffs…. 3 points Saturday and we’re back at it. Last thing we need is this defeatist attitude as a fan base. Fucks me off. We’re all pissed off after a freezing midweek game in the immediate aftermath but a few days after you should have a level head. I doubt you will find any fans forum where three defeats in four games against teams in the bottom half of the league is greeted with wild optimism. Not to mention not scoring in three of the matches. I think the reaction has been quite measured. There's keeping the faith and there's blind faith. Not so long ago some on here were talking about winning the league.
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Post by moldcestrian on Jan 18, 2024 10:58:11 GMT
I know it’s been shite and the Gloucester win was more likely due to them being the worst team I’ve seen, but there’s some serious over reactions here about ‘missing playoffs’ and ‘another season in this league’ Go take a look at the table. We’ve been poor to average for a few months and we’re right in the mix for the playoffs…. 3 points Saturday and we’re back at it. Last thing we need is this defeatist attitude as a fan base. Fucks me off. We’re all pissed off after a freezing midweek game in the immediate aftermath but a few days after you should have a level head. I doubt you will find any fans forum where three defeats in four games against teams in the bottom half of the league is greeted with wild optimism. Not to mention not scoring in three of the matches. I think the reaction has been quite measured. There's keeping the faith and there's blind faith. Not so long ago some on here were talking about winning the league. We’re a 0-0 draw away Saturday from the Facebook brigade saying Cal Out….. I point again towards Kidderminster end of last year. Won 6 on the spin to get in the playoffs and carried that form through. We’ve got the players to do that.
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Post by Moltisanti on Jan 18, 2024 11:13:47 GMT
I doubt you will find any fans forum where three defeats in four games against teams in the bottom half of the league is greeted with wild optimism. Not to mention not scoring in three of the matches. I think the reaction has been quite measured. There's keeping the faith and there's blind faith. Not so long ago some on here were talking about winning the league. We’re a 0-0 draw away Saturday from the Facebook brigade saying Cal Out….. I point again towards Kidderminster end of last year. Won 6 on the spin to get in the playoffs and carried that form through. We’ve got the players to do that. Some inbreds already at it. Don’t say fuck all when you ask who they’d have instead.
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Post by Lobster on Jan 18, 2024 11:42:31 GMT
I know it’s been shite and the Gloucester win was more likely due to them being the worst team I’ve seen, but there’s some serious over reactions here about ‘missing playoffs’ and ‘another season in this league’ Go take a look at the table. We’ve been poor to average for a few months and we’re right in the mix for the playoffs…. 3 points Saturday and we’re back at it. Last thing we need is this defeatist attitude as a fan base. Fucks me off. We’re all pissed off after a freezing midweek game in the immediate aftermath but a few days after you should have a level head. I doubt you will find any fans forum where three defeats in four games against teams in the bottom half of the league is greeted with wild optimism. Not to mention not scoring in three of the matches. I think the reaction has been quite measured. There's keeping the faith and there's blind faith. Not so long ago some on here were talking about winning the league. Which was an overreaction as well. Some people just need to take a few deep breaths and not get too excited by a few wins or depressed by a few defeats. We're a top half/playoffs standard team. A good attitude from fans can be the difference between one or the other.
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Post by Si on Jan 18, 2024 13:15:14 GMT
I doubt you will find any fans forum where three defeats in four games against teams in the bottom half of the league is greeted with wild optimism. Not to mention not scoring in three of the matches. I think the reaction has been quite measured. There's keeping the faith and there's blind faith. Not so long ago some on here were talking about winning the league. Which was an overreaction as well. Some people just need to take a few deep breaths and not get too excited by a few wins or depressed by a few defeats. We're a top half/playoffs standard team. A good attitude from fans can be the difference between one or the other. It's not the defeats that depress me, it's the manner of them. Usually during a period where there's been a few losses you'd expect to feel a bit unlucky e.g. we had a right go but the keeper had a blinder, or the ref has ignored a couple of stonewall penalties, or the opposition defence have blocked a few shots that we flying in etc. Every recent defeat I can remember has been entirely justified, and the opposition keeper has barely had to get his shirt dirty. That's what worries me - we're getting exactly what we deserve from the games we've lost, with recent ones being as the home team against teams lower down than us. Something needs to change in how we structure our attacking play, and that's for Calum to work on in training and find a solution to our lack of creativity. Caton/Thomas will help when they are back, but there's more too it than that as the midfield just aren't creating enough for whatever strikers we do have up there.
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Post by waggoner on Jan 18, 2024 13:49:58 GMT
This team would get utterly destroyed in the league above. The 4 teams promoted from the National Leagues North and South last season, currently occupy the 4 relegation spots in the National League.Exactly. If we got promoted we would have to sign at least 8 players. Far too many of this team are lightweight or height deficient. NL players cost more money. As a previous poster suggested we would not have this squad. So the budget would need to be higher to pay the better standard of player. Where would the money come from? The only thing I can see is that ticket prices would have to increase, or we would all have to dig extra deep into our pockets for a boost the budget. Our crowds would be no better because we would probably be nearer the bottom than the top. The budget at present is ok for us to play NLN but can we afford to get promoted? I'm not sure! But on the other hand IF we want to get to the promised land of the EFL then we would HAVE to fund playing at the higher level but the only cash we have is what the club generates, and of course the limitations that being a fan owned club brings.
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Post by Lobster on Jan 18, 2024 13:52:11 GMT
Which was an overreaction as well. Some people just need to take a few deep breaths and not get too excited by a few wins or depressed by a few defeats. We're a top half/playoffs standard team. A good attitude from fans can be the difference between one or the other. It's not the defeats that depress me, it's the manner of them. Usually during a period where there's been a few losses you'd expect to feel a bit unlucky e.g. we had a right go but the keeper had a blinder, or the ref has ignored a couple of stonewall penalties, or the opposition defence have blocked a few shots that we flying in etc. Every recent defeat I can remember has been entirely justified, and the opposition keeper has barely had to get his shirt dirty. That's what worries me - we're getting exactly what we deserve from the games we've lost, with recent ones being as the home team against teams lower down than us. Something needs to change in how we structure our attacking play, and that's for Calum to work on in training and find a solution to our lack of creativity. Caton/Thomas will help when they are back, but there's more too it than that as the midfield just aren't creating enough for whatever strikers we do have up there. I don't disagree. Calum has never really managed to get us to unlock teams who sit deep, and it's something he needs to work on. It's why I think he'd be a better manager for us in the division above, as we're great at going to tough places and getting results.
We always seem to have a wobble in January though, and it is literally every season. I don't want to make too much of it otherwise it can grow into a psychological thing, but it's baffling.
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Post by moldcestrian on Jan 18, 2024 13:55:26 GMT
The 4 teams promoted from the National Leagues North and South last season, currently occupy the 4 relegation spots in the National League.Exactly. If we got promoted we would have to sign at least 8 players. Far too many of this team are lightweight or height deficient. NL players cost more money. As a previous poster suggested we would not have this squad. So the budget would need to be higher to pay the better standard of player. Where would the money come from? The only thing I can see is that ticket prices would have to increase, or we would all have to dig extra deep into our pockets for a boost the budget. Our crowds would be no better because we would probably be nearer the bottom than the top. The budget at present is ok for us to play NLN but can we afford to get promoted? I'm not sure! But on the other hand IF we want to get to the promised land of the EFL then we would HAVE to fund playing at the higher level but the only cash we have is what the club generates, and of course the limitations that being a fan owned club brings. FUCK ME. SHALL WE JUST FOLD THE CLUB IF THERE’S NO POINT GOING UP BECAUSE WE’LL GET BATTERED EVERY WEEK. This attitude does me in. So what if we went up and got pumped every week? It’ll be a fun ride anyway. Or we could go up with a bright young manager, develop younger players in a higher shop window, become self sufficient and attract better players released from academies to kick start their careers. And round we go. Plenty of clubs around the world over achieve and sustain it. You’re 100% a main stander.
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Post by Lobster on Jan 18, 2024 13:55:44 GMT
The 4 teams promoted from the National Leagues North and South last season, currently occupy the 4 relegation spots in the National League.Exactly. If we got promoted we would have to sign at least 8 players. Far too many of this team are lightweight or height deficient. NL players cost more money. As a previous poster suggested we would not have this squad. So the budget would need to be higher to pay the better standard of player. Where would the money come from? The only thing I can see is that ticket prices would have to increase, or we would all have to dig extra deep into our pockets for a boost the budget. Our crowds would be no better because we would probably be nearer the bottom than the top. The budget at present is ok for us to play NLN but can we afford to get promoted? I'm not sure! But on the other hand IF we want to get to the promised land of the EFL then we would HAVE to fund playing at the higher level but the only cash we have is what the club generates, and of course the limitations that being a fan owned club brings. This will be a nice thing to worry about if we get there.
It's not all money money money. But it would be a challenge and we would have to be patient - a lot more so than we were with Neil Young in that division 10 years ago.
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Post by yoshimitsu on Jan 18, 2024 13:57:49 GMT
The 4 teams promoted from the National Leagues North and South last season, currently occupy the 4 relegation spots in the National League.Exactly. If we got promoted we would have to sign at least 8 players. Far too many of this team are lightweight or height deficient. NL players cost more money. As a previous poster suggested we would not have this squad. So the budget would need to be higher to pay the better standard of player. Where would the money come from? The only thing I can see is that ticket prices would have to increase, or we would all have to dig extra deep into our pockets for a boost the budget. Our crowds would be no better because we would probably be nearer the bottom than the top. The budget at present is ok for us to play NLN but can we afford to get promoted? I'm not sure! But on the other hand IF we want to get to the promised land of the EFL then we would HAVE to fund playing at the higher level but the only cash we have is what the club generates, and of course the limitations that being a fan owned club brings. Getting promoted isn’t the issue, it’s the finances I agree. I’d be happy to get promoted and see how things develop. If we’re relegated so be it. We might scrape bottom 5. Either way it gives the club and fans a true idea of what is required. We might do better if/when we go up next time. We might not. I’d be happy yo-yoing between the two if it means we’re living within our means. That’s the main priority to me.
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Post by Moltisanti on Jan 18, 2024 14:33:37 GMT
So we’re already talking about relegation from the league above that we’re not in.
Fuck me. What a fanbase this really is.
All this because we’ve had a few bad weeks.
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Post by yoshimitsu on Jan 18, 2024 14:51:07 GMT
So we’re already talking about relegation from the league above that we’re not in. Fuck me. What a fanbase this really is. All this because we’ve had a few bad weeks. Sorry Boss.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jan 18, 2024 15:14:41 GMT
The 4 teams promoted from the National Leagues North and South last season, currently occupy the 4 relegation spots in the National League.Exactly. If we got promoted we would have to sign at least 8 players. Far too many of this team are lightweight or height deficient. NL players cost more money. As a previous poster suggested we would not have this squad. So the budget would need to be higher to pay the better standard of player. Where would the money come from? The only thing I can see is that ticket prices would have to increase, or we would all have to dig extra deep into our pockets for a boost the budget. Our crowds would be no better because we would probably be nearer the bottom than the top. The budget at present is ok for us to play NLN but can we afford to get promoted? I'm not sure! But on the other hand IF we want to get to the promised land of the EFL then we would HAVE to fund playing at the higher level but the only cash we have is what the club generates, and of course the limitations that being a fan owned club brings. Finished top half of the league and got to the second round proper of the FA Cup in the same season under fan ownership. We’d only need to finish above four teams.
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Post by noddy on Jan 18, 2024 15:20:28 GMT
The 4 teams promoted from the National Leagues North and South last season, currently occupy the 4 relegation spots in the National League.Exactly. If we got promoted we would have to sign at least 8 players. Far too many of this team are lightweight or height deficient. NL players cost more money. As a previous poster suggested we would not have this squad. So the budget would need to be higher to pay the better standard of player. Where would the money come from? The only thing I can see is that ticket prices would have to increase, or we would all have to dig extra deep into our pockets for a boost the budget. Our crowds would be no better because we would probably be nearer the bottom than the top. The budget at present is ok for us to play NLN but can we afford to get promoted? I'm not sure! But on the other hand IF we want to get to the promised land of the EFL then we would HAVE to fund playing at the higher level but the only cash we have is what the club generates, and of course the limitations that being a fan owned club brings. All relevant points, of which unfortunately I agree with but the National League should be our aim. How we fund staying in it would be tough and challenging but that's a conversation for another day. We have to have aims, goals and ambitions following out club, as others have said what's the point it National League North or worse is all we have to look forward to.
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Post by ChesterTrueBlue on Jan 18, 2024 15:25:49 GMT
Why would people not want to be promoted?
Let's look at it, the average attendance in the league above is roughly 2,500. We're currently getting about 2,100. What we don't see here is we're playing regional football with no tv exposure, which we get in the National League. Also in the league above are Rochdale, Oldham, Alty, York, Halifax, Southend, Hartlepool who are all teams that would likely allow us to draw in bigger crowds as well as them bringing more away fans than what we usually get. I'd hazard a guess there will be about 6 games this season where over 200 away fans turn up at our place. So if we get promoted we're probably averaging 2,500 - 3,000.
In terms of players, yes there would be have to be a big recruitment push. But once again we're able to pull in higher quality players due to the reputation of the league. The National League is often compared to be of a standard just below that of League Two, not the massive gulf in standard between the NL and NLN/S. Players would be more inclined to come here, higher division teams would be more inclined to send players on loan here, and we will be able to command higher fees for our players that have EFL quality such as Burke, Williams, Caton.
If we get promoted then businesses are going to want to actually sponsor us and have their advertisments around the ground as we will be getting featured on national television.
Yes the league will be harder but since covid there has been a trend of either basket case clubs or traditionally non-league clubs falling out the league. I think we'd be able to consolidate in the NL before making that push back into the EFL which is where we need to aspire to be.
What I feel like sometimes is that the club and some supporters are trying too hard to be your FCUMs and Dulwich Hamlets of the world, clubs who try to embody the non-league spirit as key to their club. Our club just isn't that.
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Post by agl on Jan 18, 2024 16:33:41 GMT
Why would people not want to be promoted? Let's look at it, the average attendance in the league above is roughly 2,500. We're currently getting about 2,100. What we don't see here is we're playing regional football with no tv exposure, which we get in the National League. Also in the league above are Rochdale, Oldham, Alty, York, Halifax, Southend, Hartlepool who are all teams that would likely allow us to draw in bigger crowds as well as them bringing more away fans than what we usually get. I'd hazard a guess there will be about 6 games this season where over 200 away fans turn up at our place. So if we get promoted we're probably averaging 2,500 - 3,000. In terms of players, yes there would be have to be a big recruitment push. But once again we're able to pull in higher quality players due to the reputation of the league. The National League is often compared to be of a standard just below that of League Two, not the massive gulf in standard between the NL and NLN/S. Players would be more inclined to come here, higher division teams would be more inclined to send players on loan here, and we will be able to command higher fees for our players that have EFL quality such as Burke, Williams, Caton. If we get promoted then businesses are going to want to actually sponsor us and have their advertisments around the ground as we will be getting featured on national television. Yes the league will be harder but since covid there has been a trend of either basket case clubs or traditionally non-league clubs falling out the league. I think we'd be able to consolidate in the NL before making that push back into the EFL which is where we need to aspire to be. What I feel like sometimes is that the club and some supporters are trying too hard to be your FCUMs and Dulwich Hamlets of the world, clubs who try to embody the non-league spirit as key to their club. Our club just isn't that. [br. You're right about Dulwich. Was at a game there a few months ago. Parody of a football club. Almost 3000 there to pose and flaunt their right-on credentials, but zero atmosphere. As someone once said on here, 'we've got history, passion, nob heads'. At least people give a shit when we lose. Also, we are due another crack at NL. I don't think some fans who just go to home games realise what a shit league we are in currently, in terms of both infrastructure and standard of football.
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Post by Moltisanti on Jan 18, 2024 16:44:41 GMT
Why would people not want to be promoted? Let's look at it, the average attendance in the league above is roughly 2,500. We're currently getting about 2,100. What we don't see here is we're playing regional football with no tv exposure, which we get in the National League. Also in the league above are Rochdale, Oldham, Alty, York, Halifax, Southend, Hartlepool who are all teams that would likely allow us to draw in bigger crowds as well as them bringing more away fans than what we usually get. I'd hazard a guess there will be about 6 games this season where over 200 away fans turn up at our place. So if we get promoted we're probably averaging 2,500 - 3,000. In terms of players, yes there would be have to be a big recruitment push. But once again we're able to pull in higher quality players due to the reputation of the league. The National League is often compared to be of a standard just below that of League Two, not the massive gulf in standard between the NL and NLN/S. Players would be more inclined to come here, higher division teams would be more inclined to send players on loan here, and we will be able to command higher fees for our players that have EFL quality such as Burke, Williams, Caton. If we get promoted then businesses are going to want to actually sponsor us and have their advertisments around the ground as we will be getting featured on national television. Yes the league will be harder but since covid there has been a trend of either basket case clubs or traditionally non-league clubs falling out the league. I think we'd be able to consolidate in the NL before making that push back into the EFL which is where we need to aspire to be. What I feel like sometimes is that the club and some supporters are trying too hard to be your FCUMs and Dulwich Hamlets of the world, clubs who try to embody the non-league spirit as key to their club. Our club just isn't that. Amen. Well said.
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Post by boughtonblue on Jan 18, 2024 18:24:31 GMT
Why would people not want to be promoted? Let's look at it, the average attendance in the league above is roughly 2,500. We're currently getting about 2,100. What we don't see here is we're playing regional football with no tv exposure, which we get in the National League. Also in the league above are Rochdale, Oldham, Alty, York, Halifax, Southend, Hartlepool who are all teams that would likely allow us to draw in bigger crowds as well as them bringing more away fans than what we usually get. I'd hazard a guess there will be about 6 games this season where over 200 away fans turn up at our place. So if we get promoted we're probably averaging 2,500 - 3,000. In terms of players, yes there would be have to be a big recruitment push. But once again we're able to pull in higher quality players due to the reputation of the league. The National League is often compared to be of a standard just below that of League Two, not the massive gulf in standard between the NL and NLN/S. Players would be more inclined to come here, higher division teams would be more inclined to send players on loan here, and we will be able to command higher fees for our players that have EFL quality such as Burke, Williams, Caton. If we get promoted then businesses are going to want to actually sponsor us and have their advertisments around the ground as we will be getting featured on national television. Yes the league will be harder but since covid there has been a trend of either basket case clubs or traditionally non-league clubs falling out the league. I think we'd be able to consolidate in the NL before making that push back into the EFL which is where we need to aspire to be. What I feel like sometimes is that the club and some supporters are trying too hard to be your FCUMs and Dulwich Hamlets of the world, clubs who try to embody the non-league spirit as key to their club. Our club just isn't that. Good post, however to attract the type of crowds you are suggesting we would have to be at least mid table. I suppose we have to be positive though and we have a good young ambitious manager who is our best chance of progressing through the leagues and he should be backed to the hilt. Better someone with passion than an old head moaning about the budget. Some posters will remember the last couple of years in the NL where we struggled and crowds dropped etc. But failure is giving up and our fan base has to learn to embrace the challenge and not turn on the club if things don't go well.
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Post by Imperial on Jan 18, 2024 18:26:12 GMT
Why would people not want to be promoted? Let's look at it, the average attendance in the league above is roughly 2,500. We're currently getting about 2,100. What we don't see here is we're playing regional football with no tv exposure, which we get in the National League. Also in the league above are Rochdale, Oldham, Alty, York, Halifax, Southend, Hartlepool who are all teams that would likely allow us to draw in bigger crowds as well as them bringing more away fans than what we usually get. I'd hazard a guess there will be about 6 games this season where over 200 away fans turn up at our place. So if we get promoted we're probably averaging 2,500 - 3,000. In terms of players, yes there would be have to be a big recruitment push. But once again we're able to pull in higher quality players due to the reputation of the league. The National League is often compared to be of a standard just below that of League Two, not the massive gulf in standard between the NL and NLN/S. Players would be more inclined to come here, higher division teams would be more inclined to send players on loan here, and we will be able to command higher fees for our players that have EFL quality such as Burke, Williams, Caton. If we get promoted then businesses are going to want to actually sponsor us and have their advertisments around the ground as we will be getting featured on national television. Yes the league will be harder but since covid there has been a trend of either basket case clubs or traditionally non-league clubs falling out the league. I think we'd be able to consolidate in the NL before making that push back into the EFL which is where we need to aspire to be. What I feel like sometimes is that the club and some supporters are trying too hard to be your FCUMs and Dulwich Hamlets of the world, clubs who try to embody the non-league spirit as key to their club. Our club just isn't that. Agree with everything in this post except including Alty alongside those other clubs.
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Post by Harry Lime on Jan 18, 2024 18:44:31 GMT
Of course we want to be promoted. No true supporter wouldn't want that.
However, we shouldn't dismiss the obvious challenges of competing in the NL. Just because other clubs have attendances of 2500 doesn't mean that's their main income. Many are also funded or bankrolled by their chairman.
Player wages would be significantly higher. Putting together a squad would be difficult. Travel expenses would be higher, as would overnight costs.
NL teams tend to be really good at stopping you playing. Far better than the teams in the NLN. Just because we do better against the top sides in the NLN doesn't mean we would against the average NL side. It's naive to underestimate the challenges that Cal and the club would face if we did go up.
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Post by waggoner on Jan 19, 2024 9:43:55 GMT
Exactly. If we got promoted we would have to sign at least 8 players. Far too many of this team are lightweight or height deficient. NL players cost more money. As a previous poster suggested we would not have this squad. So the budget would need to be higher to pay the better standard of player. Where would the money come from? The only thing I can see is that ticket prices would have to increase, or we would all have to dig extra deep into our pockets for a boost the budget. Our crowds would be no better because we would probably be nearer the bottom than the top. The budget at present is ok for us to play NLN but can we afford to get promoted? I'm not sure! But on the other hand IF we want to get to the promised land of the EFL then we would HAVE to fund playing at the higher level but the only cash we have is what the club generates, and of course the limitations that being a fan owned club brings. FUCK ME. SHALL WE JUST FOLD THE CLUB IF THERE’S NO POINT GOING UP BECAUSE WE’LL GET BATTERED EVERY WEEK. This attitude does me in. So what if we went up and got pumped every week? It’ll be a fun ride anyway. Or we could go up with a bright young manager, develop younger players in a higher shop window, become self sufficient and attract better players released from academies to kick start their careers. And round we go. Plenty of clubs around the world over achieve and sustain it. You’re 100% a main stander. wow I like the ranting response. I am a realist we can barely manage to keep the club in the black in this league and your idea in the NL? Development of the youth team. Get real kids would be hammered in the national league. I can just imagine it on here next season when we are adrift at the bottom of the league and the usual suspects are calling for Cal to get sacked . Do you really think kids is the answer?
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