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Post by dmcnally on Aug 10, 2017 19:19:37 GMT
Are you not expecting a win Saturday? No, I don't expect a win. I hope for one though!!! |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 10, 2017 19:26:35 GMT
Are you not expecting a win Saturday? No, I don't expect a win. I hope for one though!!! How can you not expect a home win against a side that have just come up from the league below? |
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 10, 2017 19:32:09 GMT
No, I don't expect a win. I hope for one though!!! How can you not expect a home win against a side that have just come up from the league below? Very narrow minded approach. It's almost like you want to make it sound like we have to win in order to be angry at anything but a 10-0 win!! Fylde have a much bigger budget and a better squad than ours. Just because they've come up from the league below, it doesn't excuse them from winning football matches. As for Halifax, I'd hope we can grab the 3 points and it's going to be an exciting game hopefully, but expecting us to smash them is just a bit silly. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 10, 2017 19:35:57 GMT
Every club in the land have a minority of brain dead morons, inclucing ours - remember the minutes 'silence' for the Gresford mining disaster? In all fairness it was a ridiculous idea to do that silence in the first place. A hostile derby match, there was no way You can keep both sets of fans quiet for any length of time. It's not a lot to ask of people to just shut up for a minute though. It probably wasn't the best idea, but it's a shame we didn't take the opportunity to show we're all better than that. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 10, 2017 19:40:13 GMT
No, I don't expect a win. I hope for one though!!! How can you not expect a home win against a side that have just come up from the league below? How can you expect a home win against anyone when we haven't had one since Christmas? |
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Post by rcb on Aug 10, 2017 20:04:24 GMT
Less than a year ago we scored 4 against Sutton, and 5 against Dover, and both without reply. Most people would agree that we have a stronger squad than twelve months ago, and I genuinely expected us to score 4 against Fylde, given the fact they are new to this level and that I fully expected a team having trained since June, and with a bloody big point to prove, would not run out of steam. Clearly wrong on all counts. I will be bitterly disappointed with anything less than a convincing win on Saturday and would hope to see 2400 minimum in attendance. What a silly post. I will try and pitch it a much lower level for you next time, like making silly childish predictions. Sorry you find facts and expectation such a silly thing. |
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Aug 10, 2017 20:07:16 GMT
hurling abuse at him while he was walking back to the dugout after getting injured with a few saying how is your dead brother etc and laughing Every club in the land have a minority of brain dead morons, inclucing ours - remember the minutes 'silence' for the Gresford mining disaster? Imagine having a minutes silence for a Wrexham disaster at a Chester v Wrexham game thought. Police knew that was going to happen. |
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 10, 2017 20:25:24 GMT
I will try and pitch it a much lower level for you next time, like making silly childish predictions. Sorry you find facts and expectation such a silly thing. Well it is silly to expect a home win on Saturday when we haven't had one since December 2016 !! You just say it to big it up in order to have a rant after the game! Pathetic. And saying I make silly childish predictions? Where on earth have you got that from sorry ha? |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 10, 2017 20:40:59 GMT
Every club in the land have a minority of brain dead morons, inclucing ours - remember the minutes 'silence' for the Gresford mining disaster? Imagine having a minutes silence for a Wrexham disaster at a Chester v Wrexham game thought. Police knew that was going to happen. I must admit I find it very disappointing personally how many of our fans seem to shrug off that incident and simply argue that it was a bad idea to have a minute's silence. Even now, someone points out that the people involved were "braindead morons", and two members are straight in there saying "it was bound to happen", almost as if they're not only excusing the incident but justifying it. Whether a minute's silence was a good idea or not is irrelevant. It's not a good idea to leave your car unlocked, but does that excuse car theft? If you're asked to keep quiet for one minute in respect of a tragic incident, you bloody well do it! You don't interrupt it with, of all things, a taunt about a separate tragic incident. I don't get why people want to defend this sort of thing. For me, it ceases to be a Chester v Wrexham thing when it sinks this low, and just becomes a decent people v scummers thing. We had a chance that night, on national TV no less, to show what a classy set of fans we ALL are. We didn't take it, and even the reaction of a lot of our fans in the aftermath - like blaming the police or pointing at flag incidents the season before as a trigger for it - lacked class I thought. Not the proudest episode in our club's history. |
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Post by rcb on Aug 10, 2017 21:13:39 GMT
I will try and pitch it a much lower level for you next time, like making silly childish predictions. Sorry you find facts and expectation such a silly thing. Well it is silly to expect a home win on Saturday when we haven't had one since December 2016 !! You just say it to big it up in order to have a rant after the game! Pathetic. And saying I make silly childish predictions? Where on earth have you got that from sorry ha? Of course I expect a win. If you expect otherwise then what has the summer been all about? I suspect a poor home showing will prove unacceptable to a large number of fans, and it won't be me having a rant. I didn't say you make silly childish predictions by the way. Hope you read your GCSE questions more accurately when you are old enough. All the best little boy. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 10, 2017 21:21:50 GMT
How can you not expect a home win against a side that have just come up from the league below? How can you expect a home win against anyone when we haven't had one since Christmas? [ Of course I understand that, but these are the fixtures we should be aiming to win in order to keep as far from danger as possible. Considering the optimism over the summer with the new signings and talk of pushing towards the top half of the table this season I'd have thought most of us would be expecting to win on Saturday. |
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 10, 2017 21:22:02 GMT
Well it is silly to expect a home win on Saturday when we haven't had one since December 2016 !! You just say it to big it up in order to have a rant after the game! Pathetic. And saying I make silly childish predictions? Where on earth have you got that from sorry ha? Of course I expect a win. If you expect otherwise then what has the summer been all about? I suspect a poor home showing will prove unacceptable to a large number of fans, and it won't be me having a rant. I didn't say you make silly childish predictions by the way. Hope you read your GCSE questions more accurately when you are old enough. All the best little boy. I'm doing my a-levels thank you. Trying to belittle me because I'm younger than you is pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. |
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Post by rcb on Aug 10, 2017 21:43:55 GMT
Of course I expect a win. If you expect otherwise then what has the summer been all about? I suspect a poor home showing will prove unacceptable to a large number of fans, and it won't be me having a rant. I didn't say you make silly childish predictions by the way. Hope you read your GCSE questions more accurately when you are old enough. All the best little boy. I'm doing my a-levels thank you. Trying to belittle me because I'm younger than you is pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. Zzzz. Rather extravagant but perhaps age appropriate. Hopefully you can focus your commitment on your peers to expand the fan base. You're wasting your time on me |
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Post by devablue on Aug 10, 2017 22:19:34 GMT
I'm doing my a-levels thank you. Trying to belittle me because I'm younger than you is pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. Zzzz. Rather extravagant but perhaps age appropriate. Hopefully you can focus your commitment on your peers to expand the fan base. You're wasting your time on me rcb if he is wasting his time on you then surely you are doing the same? dmcnally has probably done more for the club even with his young age than you have ever done. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 11, 2017 5:58:18 GMT
How can you expect a home win against anyone when we haven't had one since Christmas? [ Of course I understand that, but these are the fixtures we should be aiming to win in order to keep as far from danger as possible. Considering the optimism over the summer with the new signings and talk of pushing towards the top half of the table this season I'd have thought most of us would be expecting to win on Saturday. I think 'expect' is the wrong word, but I'll be a bit disappointed if we don't win tomorrow, yes, as we need to win some time. It's just when you look at our record over the past eight months, I don't think we've earned the right to be talking about 'expecting' victories and certainly not comfortable wins like rcb is mentioning. If you turn up genuinely expecting us to thrash the likes of Fylde, who made mincemeat of the Conference North last year, and Halifax who never give us an easy game, that's just delusion, which leads to intolerance and unnecessary pressure. If you were a Halifax fan reading this thread, you'd be wetting yourself. |
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Post by oldboneze on Aug 11, 2017 6:31:18 GMT
[ Of course I understand that, but these are the fixtures we should be aiming to win in order to keep as far from danger as possible. Considering the optimism over the summer with the new signings and talk of pushing towards the top half of the table this season I'd have thought most of us would be expecting to win on Saturday. I think 'expect' is the wrong word, but I'll be a bit disappointed if we don't win tomorrow, yes, as we need to win some time. It's just when you look at our record over the past eight months, I don't think we've earned the right to be talking about 'expecting' victories and certainly not comfortable wins like rcb is mentioning. If you turn up genuinely expecting us to thrash the likes of Fylde, who made mincemeat of the Conference North last year, and Halifax who never give us an easy game, that's just delusion, which leads to intolerance and unnecessary pressure. If you were a Halifax fan reading this thread, you'd be wetting yourself. If you were a Halifax fan reading this thread, you'd be wetting yourself, with laughter. |
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Aug 11, 2017 6:37:28 GMT
I tend not to 'expect' victories but I do occassionally feel like we 'ought' to win certain games.
Admittedly, when we were at home to the likes of Leigh Genesis I fully expected a victory then (although LG are probably a bad example!!).
However, in this division our games have been much tougher to predict since promotion and the difference between winning & losing is much finer. We can play OK and still get beat by two or three.
Halifax at home is certainly winnable for us and if we don't I'll be a bit disappointed. That's not to say in any way that I expect to!
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Post by EddieBishopsquiff on Aug 11, 2017 7:30:24 GMT
Another 1-1 draw in front of 2100, 1800 blues and around 300 mouth frothers I'd be heavily disappointed if that was the attendance. First Saturday of the season would expect them to bring a good few hundred and us to have at least 2000 in the ground. We will see! Unfortunately I think that's where we're at with home fans currently, Tuesday's first game of the season buzz will have worn off and we'll be back to the die hards, hope I'm wrong though. |
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Post by rcb on Aug 11, 2017 7:32:12 GMT
Zzzz. Rather extravagant but perhaps age appropriate. Hopefully you can focus your commitment on your peers to expand the fan base. You're wasting your time on me rcb if he is wasting his time on you then surely you are doing the same? dmcnally has probably done more for the club even with his young age than you have ever done. He's got A-Levels to study for, I haven't. I'm sure he is an extremely positive and committed young man, which is very commendable. Using the word "probably" should be reserved for lager adverts, otherwise it might be construed you are not sure what you're talking about. I agree I haven't made a flag or banner in my life, nor banged a drum for the cause. Is only paying to watch and support a club for over fifty years such a bad thing? |
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Aug 11, 2017 7:40:31 GMT
Imagine having a minutes silence for a Wrexham disaster at a Chester v Wrexham game thought. Police knew that was going to happen. I must admit I find it very disappointing personally how many of our fans seem to shrug off that incident and simply argue that it was a bad idea to have a minute's silence. Even now, someone points out that the people involved were "braindead morons", and two members are straight in there saying "it was bound to happen", almost as if they're not only excusing the incident but justifying it. Whether a minute's silence was a good idea or not is irrelevant. It's not a good idea to leave your car unlocked, but does that excuse car theft? If you're asked to keep quiet for one minute in respect of a tragic incident, you bloody well do it! You don't interrupt it with, of all things, a taunt about a separate tragic incident. I don't get why people want to defend this sort of thing. For me, it ceases to be a Chester v Wrexham thing when it sinks this low, and just becomes a decent people v scummers thing. We had a chance that night, on national TV no less, to show what a classy set of fans we ALL are. We didn't take it, and even the reaction of a lot of our fans in the aftermath - like blaming the police or pointing at flag incidents the season before as a trigger for it - lacked class I thought. Not the proudest episode in our club's history. I didn't condone it. Doing the silence for Gresford silence the season after the flags thing was a ploy to get people banned, people who were at the game would've been friends of the lads that died, who the Goats mocked. Tensions were high and people had been drinking all day. It was never going to go without incident, having that minutes silence was a joke. |
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 11, 2017 8:47:18 GMT
rcb if he is wasting his time on you then surely you are doing the same? dmcnally has probably done more for the club even with his young age than you have ever done. He's got A-Levels to study for, I haven't. I'm sure he is an extremely positive and committed young man, which is very commendable. Using the word "probably" should be reserved for lager adverts, otherwise it might be construed you are not sure what you're talking about. I agree I haven't made a flag or banner in my life, nor banged a drum for the cause. Is only paying to watch and support a club for over fifty years such a bad thing? I volunteer at the club too. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 11, 2017 8:48:45 GMT
I must admit I find it very disappointing personally how many of our fans seem to shrug off that incident and simply argue that it was a bad idea to have a minute's silence. Even now, someone points out that the people involved were "braindead morons", and two members are straight in there saying "it was bound to happen", almost as if they're not only excusing the incident but justifying it. Whether a minute's silence was a good idea or not is irrelevant. It's not a good idea to leave your car unlocked, but does that excuse car theft? If you're asked to keep quiet for one minute in respect of a tragic incident, you bloody well do it! You don't interrupt it with, of all things, a taunt about a separate tragic incident. I don't get why people want to defend this sort of thing. For me, it ceases to be a Chester v Wrexham thing when it sinks this low, and just becomes a decent people v scummers thing. We had a chance that night, on national TV no less, to show what a classy set of fans we ALL are. We didn't take it, and even the reaction of a lot of our fans in the aftermath - like blaming the police or pointing at flag incidents the season before as a trigger for it - lacked class I thought. Not the proudest episode in our club's history. I didn't condone it. Doing the silence for Gresford silence the season after the flags thing was a ploy to get people banned, people who were at the game would've been friends of the lads that died, who the Goats mocked. Tensions were high and people had been drinking all day. It was never going to go without incident, having that minutes silence was a joke. I don't care if it was a police ploy - it's not hard to shut up for one minute. Any attempt to divert the blame elsewhere is shameful. |
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Post by devablue on Aug 11, 2017 9:51:48 GMT
rcb if he is wasting his time on you then surely you are doing the same? dmcnally has probably done more for the club even with his young age than you have ever done. He's got A-Levels to study for, I haven't. I'm sure he is an extremely positive and committed young man, which is very commendable. Using the word "probably" should be reserved for lager adverts, otherwise it might be construed you are not sure what you're talking about. I agree I haven't made a flag or banner in my life, nor banged a drum for the cause. Is only paying to watch and support a club for over fifty years such a bad thing? Who said it was a bad thing? But starting fundraising campaigns and volunteering for the club as well as going along to games is a better thing, don't you think? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 10:24:52 GMT
some saying we should win 4-0 anything less is a bit daft
going for a 2-1 win 2500 with 300 halifax in
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Post by Believe on Aug 11, 2017 10:49:45 GMT
I think 'expect' is the wrong word, but I'll be a bit disappointed if we don't win tomorrow, yes, as we need to win some time. It's just when you look at our record over the past eight months, I don't think we've earned the right to be talking about 'expecting' victories and certainly not comfortable wins like rcb is mentioning. If you turn up genuinely expecting us to thrash the likes of Fylde, who made mincemeat of the Conference North last year, and Halifax who never give us an easy game, that's just delusion, which leads to intolerance and unnecessary pressure. If you were a Halifax fan reading this thread, you'd be wetting yourself. If you were a Halifax fan reading this thread, you'd be wetting yourself, with laughter. Yep.  We've been away for a year, so I'm not sure when we became cannon fodder for the mighty Chester, but aren't promoted sides generally expected to be on a bit of a roll in the early days in their new league, if nothing else. Truth be told though, we are NOT the side that Neil Aspin brought into this division, we've not brought in many new faces over the summer and the ones we have, well let's say most of us are willing to reserve judgement. And Billy Heath has made it clear Tom Denton remains the focal point of our attack - this does not bode well, unless he can find a way to get him to click with Adam Morgan in the penalty area. As Morgan can't get into the team, this is a forlorn hope at present. We have one thing going for us- a defence that conceded just 12 goals in the second half of last season. So, I expect another tough game, as they always are between our sides, a point is eminently possible while a win is probably to much to expect.
One final thing- is this now the main forum these days or is the old one still relevant?
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 11, 2017 11:31:23 GMT
Both are equally used, this forum probably slightly more so.
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Post by soulseal on Aug 11, 2017 11:38:07 GMT
Very few of us would think you are can fodder, Believe. We like these philosophical debates on the new improved Devachat. Best to come to this site for discussion on all things Chester FC as it's alive with very different opinions as demonstrated on this thread.
As for the game tomorrow I am hoping for a win, expecting a good performance and certainly going to be there.
I suspect if we do win it will be hard fought, but the beauty of this game is that you can never can tell. If we are outplayed and lose, I will be gutted and frustrated that we have not developed since last year despite a very good close season bringing optimism back after last seasons dire home performances (In 2017 anyway).
I doubt we'll roll you over for the reasons you give about your defensive acumen. If we get an early goal and get you chasing the game, it could be interesting. If you keep it at nil-nil and we get frustrated you could easily be going back with an away win.
Sat 3pm cannot come soon enough.
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 11, 2017 16:12:27 GMT
If we are going to achieve anything this season, it's games like this that we have to win. The home record has to be ended eventually and tomorrow is the perfect occasion. McCarthy is right to proclaim that anything less ramps up the pressure. That's a side effect of him having been retained after last seasons disaster.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Aug 11, 2017 16:58:29 GMT
rcb if he is wasting his time on you then surely you are doing the same? dmcnally has probably done more for the club even with his young age than you have ever done. He's got A-Levels to study for, I haven't. I'm sure he is an extremely positive and committed young man, which is very commendable. Using the word "probably" should be reserved for lager adverts, otherwise it might be construed you are not sure what you're talking about. I agree I haven't made a flag or banner in my life, nor banged a drum for the cause. Is only paying to watch and support a club for over fifty years such a bad thing? You would think at your age you would be a little better behaved towards people and have a little more respect, please try not to turn every post you make as an opportunity to wind people up. |
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Post by rcb on Aug 11, 2017 17:22:02 GMT
He's got A-Levels to study for, I haven't. I'm sure he is an extremely positive and committed young man, which is very commendable. Using the word "probably" should be reserved for lager adverts, otherwise it might be construed you are not sure what you're talking about. I agree I haven't made a flag or banner in my life, nor banged a drum for the cause. Is only paying to watch and support a club for over fifty years such a bad thing? You would think at your age you would be a little better behaved towards people and have a little more respect, please try not to turn every post you make as an opportunity to wind people up. Selective post, and targeting someone only recently joined. Didn't realise it was a closed shop, and what has ageism got to do with things? With greater reading you will notice any negative comments I make are reactionary so why don't you make an issue with those who initiate things. |
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We've been away for a year, so I'm not sure when we became cannon fodder for the mighty Chester, but aren't promoted sides generally expected to be on a bit of a roll in the early days in their new league, if nothing else. Truth be told though, we are NOT the side that Neil Aspin brought into this division, we've not brought in many new faces over the summer and the ones we have, well let's say most of us are willing to reserve judgement. And Billy Heath has made it clear Tom Denton remains the focal point of our attack - this does not bode well, unless he can find a way to get him to click with Adam Morgan in the penalty area. As Morgan can't get into the team, this is a forlorn hope at present. We have one thing going for us- a defence that conceded just 12 goals in the second half of last season. So, I expect another tough game, as they always are between our sides, a point is eminently possible while a win is probably to much to expect. 
