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Post by blue4life on Aug 12, 2017 19:06:09 GMT
Not sure how 50 would be survival mate we were technically relegated with less when we got the reprive. I was just quoting McCarthy, he said 50.6 points "would be enough". Has he actually said that this season?
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 12, 2017 19:06:43 GMT
I only have one alias on here, I have no idea who the other two posters are either on here or IRL. The fact that a few of us are getting fed up with the same old tripe must tell you something, no? [br Ah okay fair enough, they do tend to agree with your view point yes. Don't get me wrong, if anyone has been entertained in the first two games I would be very surprised. That said I guess the positive is we haven't lost! Akintunde has to start on Tuesday against what looks like a bang average Hartlepool side. 15 years ago I was as positive (naive?!) as the likes of McNally and Riot but this is what following Chester does to a man. Oh well, seeing as we set up in every single game as the non-league away side against a Football League giant in a Cup tie then hopefully we may take the maximum from Hartlepool on Tuesday night.
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 12, 2017 19:07:48 GMT
I think the worst about it all is that he's appeared for his post-match press call thoroughly delighted with the performance. This is the reason why he came at odds with many fans last season and became known as 'the deluded one'. He doesn't learn and his expectations are obviously far lower than 95% of the fan base.
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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 12, 2017 19:09:05 GMT
That was a really poor game for the spectators today.
Halifax's record of only conceding 16 goals over the 2nd half of last season tells you they are well drilled. But really limited.
First half we could hardly put two passes together. James and Turnbull were outnumbered. So we couldn't move the ball through midfield. Turnbull hardly had a kick until late on. Although James was my choice for MoM. That pressures us to bypass and try to get it forward.
It was a totally opposite game to Tuesday. Flyde was like playing Arsenal. Today was like a Pulis Stoke team. The players who looked good Tuesday, didn't look good today. White looked a really good signing Tuesday, but he didn't today. Turnbull the same.
I can see Halifax going down, as they won't score enough goals. But they will pick up a lot of draws as they are difficult to play against.
One slight plus was the way we did eventually press them back a little and create a couple of chances. Unlike holding on as more usual.
It's too early to all kick off again. Most of the views (understandably) are based on last seasons poor performances. We've a run of really difficult looking games through to the end of September now. Those games will really show us where we are. Let's hope it looks a bit better then.
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Post by Believe on Aug 12, 2017 19:21:36 GMT
That was a really poor game for the spectators today. Halifax's record of only conceding 16 goals over the 2nd half of last season tells you they are well drilled. But really limited. First half we could hardly put two passes together. James and Turnbull were outnumbered. So we couldn't move the ball through midfield. Turnbull hardly had a kick until late on. Although James was my choice for MoM. That pressures us to bypass and try to get it forward. It was a totally opposite game to Tuesday. Flyde was like playing Arsenal. Today was like a Pulis Stoke team. The players who looked good Tuesday, didn't look good today. White looked a really good signing Tuesday, but he didn't today. Turnbull the same. I can see Halifax going down, as they won't score enough goals. But they will pick up a lot of draws as they are difficult to play against. One slight plus was the way we did eventually press them back a little and create a couple of chances. Unlike holding on as more usual. It's too early to all kick off again. Most of the views (understandably) are based on last seasons poor performances. We've a run of really difficult looking games through to the end of September now. Those games will really show us where we are. Let's hope it looks a bit better then. We won't go down. We have a solid platform at the back, and the goals will come. As the home team, the onus was always on Chester to break us down but we never looked like conceding until the shot in stoppage time, which Johnson dealt with, as he always does. Overall I think we created a little more than Chester did and deserved our point, so I guess if we're a poor team, well Chester were no better than we were. I think the most enjoyable part of my day came when I drove into your club car park flying Shaymen at Wembley flags on my car - if looks could kill! The stewards looked as though they would have happily fired an RPG into the cabin if they'd had one to hand. See y'all at The Shay.
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Post by sirfred on Aug 12, 2017 19:27:03 GMT
I have sat here for 3 hours speechless after that appalling game - for gods sake when will we see a home victory - my optimism is fast evaporating I honestly don't know how we can win another match playing like that pass hump lose it pass hump lose it and so on- I'm not even sure we even have a better squad than last year because today was that awful - it so tedious it's unreal
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Post by casual125 on Aug 12, 2017 19:35:08 GMT
Rome wasn't built after 2 games
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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 12, 2017 19:43:03 GMT
That was a really poor game for the spectators today. Halifax's record of only conceding 16 goals over the 2nd half of last season tells you they are well drilled. But really limited. First half we could hardly put two passes together. James and Turnbull were outnumbered. So we couldn't move the ball through midfield. Turnbull hardly had a kick until late on. Although James was my choice for MoM. That pressures us to bypass and try to get it forward. It was a totally opposite game to Tuesday. Flyde was like playing Arsenal. Today was like a Pulis Stoke team. The players who looked good Tuesday, didn't look good today. White looked a really good signing Tuesday, but he didn't today. Turnbull the same. I can see Halifax going down, as they won't score enough goals. But they will pick up a lot of draws as they are difficult to play against. One slight plus was the way we did eventually press them back a little and create a couple of chances. Unlike holding on as more usual. It's too early to all kick off again. Most of the views (understandably) are based on last seasons poor performances. We've a run of really difficult looking games through to the end of September now. Those games will really show us where we are. Let's hope it looks a bit better then. We won't go down. We have a solid platform at the back, and the goals will come. As the home team, the onus was always on Chester to break us down but we never looked like conceding until the shot in stoppage time, which Johnson dealt with, as he always does. Overall I think we created a little more than Chester did and deserved our point, so I guess if we're a poor team, well Chester were no better than we were. I think the most enjoyable part of my day came when I drove into your club car park flying Shaymen at Wembley flags on my car - if looks could kill! The stewards looked as though they would have happily fired an RPG into the cabin if they'd had one to hand. See y'all at The Shay. On todays showing I'd agree there was little between the two teams. Question is, can either of us improve on that? We probably can. You will know better than I whether your lot can. It might be a long season. I hope you do ok this season though. We need all the proper Northern teams in this league we can get. It seems to be being taken over by Owner toy Southern and Northern clubs. They are the sides with the money, while they last that is.
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Post by billyw on Aug 12, 2017 19:45:20 GMT
Rome wasn't built after 2 games Maybe not, but the foundations would have been in place and there would have been a Site Manager who knew what he was doing.
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Post by casual125 on Aug 12, 2017 19:49:17 GMT
Rome wasn't built after 2 games Maybe not, but the foundations would  have been in place and there would have been a Site Manager who knew what he was doing. Start of the season and we have 2 points. I'm happy with that. Imagine if it was 2 defeats.. Jesus it's the start of the season. Things can only get better? Or worse...
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Post by sirfred on Aug 12, 2017 20:01:05 GMT
Rome wasn't built after 2 games Try 17 home games and counting
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Post by archwhopper on Aug 12, 2017 20:03:07 GMT
have to agree with 99% of posts, we were awful infact halifax just about shaded it on chances, no width, no pace down the line apart from rio the ballboy who had a decent game, it's a shame when retrieving the ball he gave it to dawson who was the worst player on the pitch, his corners were a joke, would rather see jordon getting more of a run out, thats how bad dawson is, hannah a bad first touch but hopefully that will improve when he gets matchfit, will be there next saturday but its getting harder after each and every poor performance to justify me attending when weve watched dross for best part of 9 months
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Post by casual125 on Aug 12, 2017 20:03:20 GMT
Rome wasn't built after 2 games Try 17 home games and counting its a new season. sack the manager already is laughable
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Post by soulseal on Aug 12, 2017 20:04:34 GMT
Very poor game that, not much happened apart from Halifax hitting the bar from a cross (fluke) and Akintunde’s effort just before the end. Don’t know what the plan was really, hoof it towards Halifax’s big defence against the wind? We were only a threat when Akintunde came on and in fairness Chapell also did pretty well in the short amount of time he got. His tactics just baffle me, can’t believe he used to be a winger playing that narrow either. James was our best player, not sure how someone plucked Rowe-Turner for man of the match. I agree completely. We didn't have any ideas beyond containing Denton. Compared to last year we are much more combative, but still without a creative spark. Our few interesting attacks came we did play the ball to feet and Hannah showed how good a player he is by setting up Akintunde. It would have been a slightly fortunate victory if he had scored. We have to bring the wide players, both full backs and midfielders, more into the game. Mahon was never wide enough to pose a threat, never in space. Rowe-Turner needs cover when attacked at pace. James was MoM for us, but Oliver for Halifax was streets ahead I'm afraid in finding teammates with good passes, typically on the floor and at pace. But I'm not downhearted. Had we won at Solihull who have been well beaten in their other games, we'd all be saying what a solid distract we have had. Had we of lost of course it would be dire. But that just shows it's far too early for conclusions for this season. I actually fancy us away at Hartlepool on Tuesday.
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Post by sirfred on Aug 12, 2017 20:07:05 GMT
What pisses me off as well is that it is clear for all to see that Akintunde is our best striker gets MOM then sits on his arse for most of the game - what is concerning is Hannah I hope he proves me wrong but doesn't look a shadow of his former time here - he was drifting to the wing crossing when he needs to be in the middle - Nyall Bell and Akintunde for me up top
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Post by archwhopper on Aug 12, 2017 20:08:46 GMT
he should of gone at the end of last season
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Post by mrmanero on Aug 12, 2017 20:18:58 GMT
Two games in and two draws. The negativity is unreal. White a cart horse?? You have to be kidding, he's gonna be a good striker for us. The lads need time. Hannah will take another 2-3 games to get his mojo back after after a season doing diddly squat and a limited pre season. The same for Mahon...he's well off the pace but it will come. God help us if we had lost both games. Try being positive! Take ya blinkers off lad. I'd say it's you that's blinkered....id sooner start slow and steady (unbeaten). Relationships take time to form, knowing what the lad next to you is gonna do instinctively takes time. I'm not sure I can spell it out for you any simpler LAD... it will take time.
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Post by rcb on Aug 12, 2017 20:22:10 GMT
How can you not expect a home win against a side that have just come up from the league below? Just out of interest, do you post as that alias, rcb and Paulie? Or do you just all know one another so tend to like each others posts. Just to add, this isn't a snipe it's a genuine question. I have never knowingly met the other two. Interesting you highlight three of us as one unit. Unlike The Magi we are not the three wise men from the east come to worship The Messiah. Sadly no Messiah at Chester FC. Interestingly this thread is devoid of comments by his little band of worshippers - speaks volumes. I have to disagree with those who say McCarthy should have gone at the end of last season. He should have gone with Burr.
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Post by bluboy79 on Aug 12, 2017 20:23:03 GMT
It would appear that after just 2 games were going to be in a relegation battle, we look devoid of any attacking threat and have been very lucky not to lose both matches. We have now won 4 drawn 3 and lost 17 since beating Aldershot in December including 13 without a win at home . How is Mcarthy still in charge ?. Halifax were very poor today and if we can't beat teams like that we need to worry , why is the manager playing Dawson out of position on wing ? We have Davies, Waters and Chappelle to play there ? If they are not good enough why were they retained !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 20:25:40 GMT
that was a game i expected us to win and came away very frustrated in how we played we were poor they were poor it had signs of 0-0 written over it after 15 mins why drop our best player from tuesday for an unfit hannah rowe-turner man of the match should of been james imo
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Post by casual125 on Aug 12, 2017 20:35:43 GMT
This is why I hate Chester fans so much. 2 games in and you lot are crying calling for the managers head.
Always negative.
Never positive
If they win 6-0 next game I bet you'll all be singing there praises.
Idiots
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Post by sirfred on Aug 12, 2017 20:57:45 GMT
This is why I hate Chester fans so much. 2 games in and you lot are crying calling for the managers head. Always negative. Never positive If they win 6-0 next game I bet you'll all be singing there praises. Idiots Are you on the sauce ? It's not just 2 games is it we haven't won at home since mid December 2016 ! and as for 6.0 open another tin
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Post by Lobster on Aug 12, 2017 21:01:31 GMT
I have sat here for 3 hours speechless after that appalling game - for gods sake when will we see a home victory - my optimism is fast evaporating I honestly don't know how we can win another match playing like that pass hump lose it pass hump lose it and so on- I'm not even sure we even have a better squad than last year because today was that awful - it so tedious it's unreal We don't. We did some good business but we lost our two best players from last season, gave new contracts to too many players who hadn't done enough to earn one, and although the back four looks decent enough, the four of them are all we've got in terms of defenders. Plus it's the same manager continuing to struggle. I tried my best to bite my tongue during the close season, but I never really understood what people were getting so excited about!
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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 12, 2017 21:24:36 GMT
I have sat here for 3 hours speechless after that appalling game - for gods sake when will we see a home victory - my optimism is fast evaporating I honestly don't know how we can win another match playing like that pass hump lose it pass hump lose it and so on- I'm not even sure we even have a better squad than last year because today was that awful - it so tedious it's unreal We don't. We did some good business but we lost our two best players from last season, gave new contracts to too many players who hadn't done enough to earn one, and although the back four looks decent enough, the four of them are all we've got in terms of defenders. Plus it's the same manager continuing to struggle. I tried my best to bite my tongue during the close season, but I never really understood what people were getting so excited about! Think it is a little better. Keeper is no worse Back four probably as good collectively. They look a better unit, if very defensive minded. Yes, we've lost Sam. But also lost Hudson and no real right back Midfield should be as good. James is a real plus. We have four strikers. Last season we started with three unproven strikers, and ended with one good one, one poor one and one long term injured. Surely we should be more of a threat this season. It should get better. There was only Astles on the pitch today who played most of the games last season. Mahon was injured long term and Dawson only joined late on. This is a new team. Will take time to gel. We looked ok Tuesday against a good team who played good football. We didn't look good today against a limited team, who played a physical dour game. Which turns out to be our usual performance I don't know. However, I do believe we are better than we looked today.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 12, 2017 21:52:36 GMT
This is why I hate Chester fans so much. 2 games in and you lot are crying calling for the managers head. Always negative. Never positive If they win 6-0 next game I bet you'll all be singing there praises. Idiots Even I wouldn't predict a 6-0 win at Hartlepool 😳.
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Post by rcb on Aug 12, 2017 22:09:52 GMT
This is why I hate Chester fans so much. 2 games in and you lot are crying calling for the managers head. Always negative. Never positive If they win 6-0 next game I bet you'll all be singing there praises. Idiots Even I wouldn't predict a 6-0 win at Hartlepool 😳. I agree with you there Rio. Last home win almost eight months ago (2-0 v Aldershot) more ironic with Aldershot's 6-0 win today. Tuesday will be interesting against a manager considered not good enough for Chester.
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Post by casual125 on Aug 12, 2017 23:52:29 GMT
This is why I hate Chester fans so much. 2 games in and you lot are crying calling for the managers head. Always negative. Never positive If they win 6-0 next game I bet you'll all be singing there praises. Idiots Even I wouldn't predict a 6-0 win at Hartlepool 😳. Called sarcasm 😉
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Post by casual125 on Aug 12, 2017 23:53:30 GMT
Even I wouldn't predict a 6-0 win at Hartlepool 😳. I agree with you there Rio. Last home win almost eight months ago (2-0 v Aldershot) more ironic with Aldershot's 6-0 win today. Tuesday will be interesting against a manager considered not good enough for Chester. Nothing seems good enough for Chester. Our fans are pathetic.
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Post by Forever Blue on Aug 13, 2017 0:12:51 GMT
JM is no manager and should have gone at the end of last season but some idiot gave him a 2yr contract, it is his squad now and his tactics and he is being found out. This is what happens when a club takes the cheap option and the club have to take some responsibility for that as well and put it right or we will be in a relegation battle. We have a half decent squad but under JM they look shocking time to get rid and move on. Frustrated I am.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Aug 13, 2017 0:32:40 GMT
Ok it's two games in and they need time to gel etc. I agree entirely. Let's see were we are at after 10 games. It was quite obvious at the final home game of last season that something was seriously wrong. Yet there was a significant proportion who applauded that performance. I have not seen either of the two games this season and I sincerely hope that after 10 games it looks reasonable. If we haven't won three of those 10 he has to go. I believe that gives someone plenty of time to turn it around btw. Giving him 15 games or more personally I don't think it's visible. Let's hope after 5 or so games with players match fit ithe tide turns.
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