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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 7, 2017 19:44:51 GMT
The Manager is appointed, then puts together his coaching team. Would be ridiculous to go through an application process. His coaching team comes out of his squad budget. More coaches, less players.That's his area to manage as he sees fit, subject to diligence from the Board. Wouldn't expect players to apply and have an interview, would you? The problem with the last appointment was that one of the key criteria was the Community area. Given that, the Community Officer who'd just won games ended up the strongest candidate. As soon as you saw the job criteria you knew who'd get it. It could have been written with him in mind. Maybe it was. Let's just get the best manager in. Just a thought regarding Andy Holden, would he come as an assistant? That way we get some future job progression from in house. He can't be earning much at Flint, and would maybe prefer to work full time at a higher level. Realise he probably wouldn't, but worth an ask depending on whoever gets the gig. Would have different contacts from the manager. Harry, Just to reassure you the selection criteria was most definitely not written with any candidate in mind. I completely agree about your comments regarding the selection of an assistant. Not intentionally. But comments from the Chairman at the CFU meeting at the time, then seeing the criteria, with hindsight it could look that way. Not suggesting anything underhand. But it did make a particular candidate in a stronger position than others. At the time we did probably make the least risky decision. |
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Post by thevoice on Sept 7, 2017 19:52:16 GMT
more i look at his interview the more i want marcus bignot in next few weeks will be interesting but it's a big no for ronnie moore from me i see he deleted a tweet from a few weeks ago regarding our game vs hartlepool
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Post by norwegianblue on Sept 7, 2017 21:05:19 GMT
Mark MaGuire: Very good Mr Bignot. Do you have any questions for us? Marcus Bignot: What is the budget for the rest of the season? Mark MaGuire: Well, ideally we need a good Cup run. Marcus Bignot: Ooops, sorry. Got to go, I think I left the gas on. Bye ! Not funny. After JM has been paid off, I wouldn't expect there to be too much left of the budget. How do you expect the club to increase funds for the rest of the season? |
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 7, 2017 21:10:36 GMT
After JM has been paid off, I wouldn't expect there to be too much left of the budget. How do you expect the club to increase funds for the rest of the season? Marcus Bignot has done his research on us and is still keen (Chronicle item on another thread), so please don't discourage him. |
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Post by tonya on Sept 7, 2017 21:40:24 GMT
Has anyone mentioned length of any contract?
I would have thought a contract to the end of the season would be sensible. Managers of the calibre of Neil Warnock accept short contracts.
Given the mistake made by giving John McCarthy a long contract I trust we don't make the same mistake.
I am sure there's an experienced or even younger well respected candidate who would accept a short term contract.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Sept 7, 2017 21:44:53 GMT
Absolutely we ought to be sending out all the right signals for Bignot. On recent achievements at conference level and with his community and academy stuff he would be a good appointment for us. The board ought to be asking him to come and meet for a chat asap imo.
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Post by Poppa on Sept 7, 2017 21:45:13 GMT
Has anyone mentioned length of any contract? I would have thought a contract to the end of the season would be sensible. Managers of the calibre of Neil Warnock accept short contracts. Given the mistake made by giving John McCarthy a long contract I trust we don't make the same mistake. I am sure there's an experienced or even younger well respected candidate who would accept a short term contract. I'm sure the board will have learnt from the McCarthy fiasco. I imagine the new manager will be on a deal to the end of the season with an option to extend for another season after that depending on performance. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 7, 2017 21:48:13 GMT
The Manager is appointed, then puts together his coaching team. Would be ridiculous to go through an application process. His coaching team comes out of his squad budget. More coaches, less players.That's his area to manage as he sees fit, subject to diligence from the Board. Wouldn't expect players to apply and have an interview, would you? The problem with the last appointment was that one of the key criteria was the Community area. Given that, the Community Officer who'd just won games ended up the strongest candidate. As soon as you saw the job criteria you knew who'd get it. It could have been written with him in mind. Maybe it was. Let's just get the best manager in. Just a thought regarding Andy Holden, would he come as an assistant? That way we get some future job progression from in house. He can't be earning much at Flint, and would maybe prefer to work full time at a higher level. Realise he probably wouldn't, but worth an ask depending on whoever gets the gig. Would have different contacts from the manager. I highly doubt Holden would consider us as "future job progression" as an assistant manager considering he's previously held that role at Everton, Hibs and Rotherham and is only really using his hometown club Flint as a retirement home. I meant "future job progression" for us. We would have an assistant that would be more than capable of moving into the top job. Take your point though. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 7, 2017 21:58:03 GMT
Sorry I misunderstood. In any case, it looks like weight is being thrown behind one Matt Higgins!
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Post by avfo on Sept 7, 2017 22:57:23 GMT
After JM has been paid off, I wouldn't expect there to be too much left of the budget. How do you expect the club to increase funds for the rest of the season? Marcus Bignot has done his research on us and is still keen (Chronicle item on another thread), so please don't discourage him. Bignot lasted less than six months at Grimsby yet that seems to have been airbrushed out of the conversation? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 23:11:49 GMT
Marcus Bignot has done his research on us and is still keen (Chronicle item on another thread), so please don't discourage him. Bignot lasted less than six months at Grimsby yet that seems to have been airbrushed out of the conversation? His sacking from Grimsby didn't go down too well with their fans. |
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Post by avfo on Sept 7, 2017 23:55:34 GMT
Bignot lasted less than six months at Grimsby yet that seems to have been airbrushed out of the conversation? His sacking from Grimsby didn't go down too well with their fans. Some by all reports not all, quite a few wanted him out before he was sacked. I don't know if the supposed reasons for his dismissal are accurate, but haven't seen a denial. Bignot may well be the best candidate, just a bit confused that some who emphasise that CFC are fan owned so thus apparently bound to follow higher standards appear to favour the coronation of a potential candidate before any due process has been completed. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 6:31:28 GMT
His sacking from Grimsby didn't go down too well with their fans. Some by all reports not all, quite a few wanted him out before he was sacked. I don't know if the supposed reasons for his dismissal are accurate, but haven't seen a denial. Bignot may well be the best candidate, just a bit confused that some who emphasise that CFC are fan owned so thus apparently bound to follow higher standards appear to favour the coronation of a potential candidate before any due process has been completed. Thinks it's just a case of people picking their favourite from a, not particularly strong, list of candidates and putting their weight behind him. I'm firmly in the Bignot camp. I personally think a selection process is a waste of time, we don't have much time and truly believe we should be head hunting the man for the job. Bignot has expressed interest and I think we should be making moves, opening talks as quickly as possible. Said before, we've lost enough ground already, get a new boss in NOW before we are cast further adrift. |
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Post by gaz on Sept 8, 2017 6:40:48 GMT
Bignot lasted less than six months at Grimsby yet that seems to have been airbrushed out of the conversation? His sacking from Grimsby didn't go down too well with their fans. some of the fans..... the majority were pleased to see the back of him. |
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Post by blueboiiiii76 on Sept 8, 2017 6:46:41 GMT
My cousin is a close friend of Marcus Bignot and she tells me that Bignot was stabbed well and truly in the back at Grimsby.
He inherited Paul Hurst squad which frankly had some bang average players in it, he was allowed to make his own signings and was always grateful to the Grimsby board for that but ultimately people behind the scenes stabbed him in the back.
He lost Omar Boyle for over a million pound, brought lads in from NL Level who are now flourishing, he will be the first to admit he wants to put a few wrongs right, at the minute he is helping his best mate out at Barrow but MB wants to manage in his own right and the fact he has gone public about his understanding and desire of Chester FC certainly suggests he isn't just "chucking his CV in" ..... certainly gets my vote, we've had a bad time under McCarthy and now I think we are all in agreeance we want a manager who can get us playing good but winning football, even under the constraints financially we still have a decent squad for this level of football so Chester must still be appealing to players, let's get a manager now who wants the job to take us forward.
One final interesting bit of info i heard is that Tom Shaw was MB boot boy back at Rushden and they know one another well, hopefully he would keep him involved behind the scenes with TS knowledge of the players and the club?
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Post by jb on Sept 8, 2017 6:55:38 GMT
His sacking from Grimsby didn't go down too well with their fans. some of the fans..... the majority were pleased to see the back of him. Would take that with a pinch of salt. After all the Grimsby fans wanted rid of Paul Hurst when things weren't going their way. Hurst has now led Shrewsbury to second place in League One. |
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Post by soulseal on Sept 8, 2017 7:50:09 GMT
more i look at his interview the more i want marcus bignot in next few weeks will be interesting but it's a big no for ronnie moore from me i see he deleted a tweet from a few weeks ago regarding our game vs hartlepool With you here. I am one who is keen that we follow the due process and have interviews with at least three best candidates. But at this stage hard to see anyone bettering Marcus Bignot. the big unknown will be how much a difference can be achieved with the current budget constraints and squad. We may have to be patient this year and hope we avoid relegation and had a nice cup run somewhere. Whoever comes on I wouldn't want us getting on their backs too soon. |
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Post by bing on Sept 8, 2017 7:50:58 GMT
more i look at his interview the more i want marcus bignot in next few weeks will be interesting but it's a big no for ronnie moore from me i see he deleted a tweet from a few weeks ago regarding our game vs hartlepool Why, what did he say? Bignot looks a decent option to me. If we go for someone else there would have to be a compelling reason to do so, so all-in-all, I'm pretty confident right now. |
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Post by thevoice on Sept 8, 2017 8:43:15 GMT
more i look at his interview the more i want marcus bignot in next few weeks will be interesting but it's a big no for ronnie moore from me i see he deleted a tweet from a few weeks ago regarding our game vs hartlepool Why, what did he say? Bignot looks a decent option to me. If we go for someone else there would have to be a compelling reason to do so, so all-in-all, I'm pretty confident right now. He said in the line of Hartlepool should be beating small clubs like Chester |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 9:16:38 GMT
Don't know if his name has been thrown in, but what about Andy Morrison at Connah's Quay. Done a cracking job there. Surely he could knock this lot into shape.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 8, 2017 9:24:36 GMT
Don't know if his name has been thrown in, but what about Andy Morrison at Connah's Quay. Done a cracking job there. Surely he could knock this lot into shape. Cracking job but with mega bucks. |
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Post by blueboiiiii76 on Sept 8, 2017 9:30:18 GMT
Word down in Birmingham is that Marcus Bignot has now submitted his CV for the job, can anyone confirm this?
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Post by thevoice on Sept 8, 2017 11:06:23 GMT
Shaw has confirmed he wont be going for the job wants to concentrate on his Coaching Badges so it looks like someone from outside the club is coming in  hopefully to get us out of this mess |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 8, 2017 11:12:46 GMT
Marcus Bignots Blue White Army!
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Post by Pseudoscally on Sept 8, 2017 11:21:08 GMT
How's Peter Jackson these days. I know he was poorly but could he make a return?
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Post by archwhopper on Sept 8, 2017 11:45:14 GMT
How's Peter Jackson these days. I know he was poorly but could he make a return? wonder what alan oakes is upto these days, jesus christ lets look forward for a change, instead of harping on about the good/bad old days |
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Post by Pseudoscally on Sept 8, 2017 11:51:33 GMT
How's Peter Jackson these days. I know he was poorly but could he make a return? wonder what alan oakes is upto these days, jesus christ lets look forward for a change, instead of harping on about the good/bad old days Hardly harping on about the good old days. Peter Jackson is a manager with a good record with some decent clubs and I believe only stopped because of poor health. If he was looking for a return to management we could do a lot worse than him. |
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Post by thevoice on Sept 8, 2017 12:48:42 GMT
Bignot has applied
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Sept 8, 2017 14:08:24 GMT
My cousin is a close friend of Marcus Bignot and she tells me that Bignot was stabbed well and truly in the back at Grimsby. He inherited Paul Hurst squad which frankly had some bang average players in it, he was allowed to make his own signings and was always grateful to the Grimsby board for that but ultimately people behind the scenes stabbed him in the back. He lost Omar Boyle for over a million pound, brought lads in from NL Level who are now flourishing, he will be the first to admit he wants to put a few wrongs right, at the minute he is helping his best mate out at Barrow but MB wants to manage in his own right and the fact he has gone public about his understanding and desire of Chester FC certainly suggests he isn't just "chucking his CV in" ..... certainly gets my vote, we've had a bad time under McCarthy and now I think we are all in agreeance we want a manager who can get us playing good but winning football, even under the constraints financially we still have a decent squad for this level of football so Chester must still be appealing to players, let's get a manager now who wants the job to take us forward. One final interesting bit of info i heard is that Tom Shaw was MB boot boy back at Rushden and they know one another well, hopefully he would keep him involved behind the scenes with TS knowledge of the players and the club? I am firmly NOT in the Bignot camp. My season ticket holder family tell me he was lucky to get 6 months, he was the worst manager they've ever had, his man management was non existent and he was "utterly clueless" destroying a decent squad of players. Bogle couldn't wait to get away from him even though they go back a way. Interesting how opinions differ? That's what football is all about - opinions. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 8, 2017 14:11:13 GMT
His sacking from Grimsby didn't go down too well with their fans. Some by all reports not all, quite a few wanted him out before he was sacked. I don't know if the supposed reasons for his dismissal are accurate, but haven't seen a denial. Bignot may well be the best candidate, just a bit confused that some who emphasise that CFC are fan owned so thus apparently bound to follow higher standards appear to favour the coronation of a potential candidate before any due process has been completed. There were stories that a number of players were refusing to sign new contracts while he was in charge. I seem to recall reading something about him assaulting a player. That could have been in a thread on here?? Is this what you are referring to, or is there something else? |
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