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Post by Al on Aug 19, 2017 20:08:32 GMT
Time for Cuckarthy to go.
Who comes in though?
Do we go through the same - send in your CV search or do we actively go out and bring a new manager in ourselves?
Do we trust the board to make the right choice? Or would they go for the "cheap" option again?
Should we plump for the tried and tested experienced boss with Shaw alongside? Or do we hope for an inexperienced wannabe manager?
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Post by whopper1 on Aug 19, 2017 20:14:28 GMT
We need a manager who has managed in the conference and knows the league
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Post by marner93 on Aug 19, 2017 20:16:49 GMT
We had that with Burr, didn't work, we need a manager who is used to getting results with a piss poor budget.
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Post by Paul Da Part on Aug 19, 2017 20:17:11 GMT
I've said in another thread that I fear Shaw gets the gig.
I think we have got to get an experienced head in. We tried the cheap option when replacing Burr with this utter clown & it's not got us anywhere, bar cause more unrest in the fanbase. Bignot wouldn't be a bad shout. People clamour for Barrow, but I'd hate his reputation being tarnished should it go wrong. There will be plenty of managers who would like to take charge of this club, it's just whether the board have got the bollocks to sack McCarthy and get a decent manager in. Shaw isn't the answer and to be perfectly honest, he should still be playing.
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Post by bonecrusher on Aug 19, 2017 20:18:42 GMT
I would dread to think of Shaw getting the job. It would be a massive gamble. And would probably backfire.
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Post by MPW on Aug 19, 2017 20:29:09 GMT
Askey? Sharps?
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 19, 2017 20:33:45 GMT
Bignot is the first point of call but Sharps isn't a bad shout. Has already proved he can organise a team to be effective in this league - one much weaker than what we now have. Also wouldn't hold back in dealing with players. Saw him at the Fylde game talking to Maguire so must still be in touch.
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Post by billyw on Aug 19, 2017 20:38:59 GMT
I would dread to think of Shaw getting the job. It would be a massive gamble. And would probably backfire. Agreed. Talking about Shaw, I also think he would be of more use on the bench instead of standing on the touchline. |
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Post by embalmer on Aug 19, 2017 20:39:31 GMT
Personally don't think we should be considering anybody who is in any way linked to the previous two incumbents - that's a no to Sharps and Shaw - neither of whom have ANY managerial experience. Surprises me to see anybody suggesting them to be honest.
Interesting to see Richard Hill doing a fairly decent job at Eastleigh - we turned him down in favour of McCarthy.
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Post by billyw on Aug 19, 2017 20:40:42 GMT
Bignot is the first point of call but Sharps isn't a bad shout. Has already proved he can organise a team to be effective in this league - one much weaker than what we now have. Also wouldn't hold back in dealing with players. Saw him at the Fylde game talking to Maguire so must still be in touch. Would love to see Sharps back but he is probably getting more money at Walsall. |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 19, 2017 20:45:40 GMT
Wouldn't mind somebody hungry from the lower leagues getting a go. Burr just saw us as another job, and while I think McCarthy is a lot more proud and hardworking in his role, he still doesn't quite seem to 'get' the club at times.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Aug 19, 2017 20:49:10 GMT
If possible Bignot has to be seriously considered surely?
A combination of sharps and shaw might not be a bad shout either although I get what the previous poster said with regards to links with the current regime.
I couldn't get there today but did see moors v Halifax. Two what seemed poor sides with Solihull dominating large parts but couldn't score. It will be very disappointing if we can't beat moors. We will need to stop Darren carter influencing the game though.
The Halifax boss was talking/ shouting instructions st his players all game.
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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 19, 2017 20:56:15 GMT
I think you need someone who knows this league. Preferably one who knows the players in the North West and Midlands area. If he's also shown he can work successfully at this level on a limited budget, he'd have to on any short list for the job.
How many of them are there though? And who are they?
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Post by trublu on Aug 19, 2017 20:56:43 GMT
Not sure you can rule people out based off the idea that a similar recruitment process has failed in the past. Managers succeed or fail for any number of reasons, many of which are intangible.
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Post by Matt on Aug 19, 2017 20:58:20 GMT
I'd say a complete guess at 40k to sack him, Macc knows the hard work that goes into this Club and the community side so you'd think he'd know it be best to move on. Even mutually agreeing he'd get half.
Whoever agreed to give out a 2 year deal needs their head testing.
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Post by Hannibal on Aug 19, 2017 21:15:05 GMT
I would dread to think of Shaw getting the job. It would be a massive gamble. And would probably backfire. Agreed. Talking about Shaw, I also think he would be of more use on the bench instead of standing on the touchline. Absolutely. I can't believe he doesn't want to play at his age and experience. |
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Post by blue4life on Aug 19, 2017 21:44:09 GMT
I'd say a complete guess at 40k to sack him, Macc knows the hard work that goes into this Club and the community side so you'd think he'd know it be best to move on. Even mutually agreeing he'd get half. Whoever agreed to give out a 2 year deal needs their head testing. Whoever gave him a 2 year contract needs sacking. |
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Post by rcb on Aug 19, 2017 22:42:06 GMT
Given our inability to finance bringing in necessary players then we need a man who knows the Northwest football scene inside out and who has the ability to get in quality loan signings. I can't think of anyone better than Graham Barrow. We have a rainy day fund and it's pissing down, so go and get him. You're the board. I'm the bored!
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 19, 2017 22:57:36 GMT
Given our inability to finance bringing in necessary players then we need a man who knows the Northwest football scene inside out and who has the ability to get in quality loan signings. I can't think of anyone better than Graham Barrow. We have a rainy day fund and it's pissing down, so go and get him. You're the board. I'm the bored! Barrow has recently joined Chesterfield. |
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Post by Forever Blue on Aug 20, 2017 0:01:22 GMT
I would dread to think of Shaw getting the job. It would be a massive gamble. And would probably backfire. We did that with Burr and JM and look what has happened if we could get him Sharps or Barrow for me. |
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Post by Al on Aug 20, 2017 6:09:40 GMT
As Barrow will be out of the question now with his new job and all.
Gary Brabin?
Has worked better at clubs with small budgets, Southport and Cambridge beforehand. Every time he's struggled he's been given daft amounts of cash at Luton and obviously Tranmere. Can set teams up, and get them organised. He's out of work currently.
His style of play isn't the greatest but by god it would still be better then watching the dross McCarthy is dishing up
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Post by Johnnybling on Aug 20, 2017 8:02:46 GMT
Brabin would be a good shout, Bignot, Askew, or even the Lockwood who kept Guisley up, I would probably go with Brabin though good tranmere connections, no hang on a minute he would probably send alabi back!
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Post by devaboyreturns on Aug 20, 2017 9:08:41 GMT
Brabin with Carden as assistant??
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 20, 2017 9:15:10 GMT
Brabin with Carden as assistant?? Carden's at Warrington, but that wouldn't be a bad shout. |
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Post by tarvinblue on Aug 20, 2017 9:18:28 GMT
Brabin with Carden as assistant?? Carden? The bloke that got sacked at Southport within weeks. Brabin not good enough either. Another manager that likes a good hoof up the pitch. We need someone who is happy to get the ball down and knock it around, on a budget. The players we have signed are capable footballers, they just need to be allowed to play. |
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Post by superman on Aug 20, 2017 9:20:33 GMT
Realistically very few candidates with decent pedigrees available, those that are any good are already working. Ian Sharps no experience as a manager, on 3 year deal and decent money so even if he was interested would be compensation needed. Bignot did ok at Solihull but got found out very quickly at a bigger club. Brabin available but for me has had little if any success even with money to spend. I am really struggling to come up with a good suggestion, but time to wash my keyboard mouth out as I momentarily thought of Andy Morrell who had decent conference record at you know where!!! Without his near neighbour connections he would perhaps have been a possibility. So for me I think we would probably have to take a risk with Tom Shaw.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 20, 2017 9:33:58 GMT
Noticed a week or so ago that he has now deleted his twitter page. Just saying.
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Post by rcb on Aug 20, 2017 9:35:04 GMT
Given our inability to finance bringing in necessary players then we need a man who knows the Northwest football scene inside out and who has the ability to get in quality loan signings. I can't think of anyone better than Graham Barrow. We have a rainy day fund and it's pissing down, so go and get him. You're the board. I'm the bored! Barrow has recently joined Chesterfield. I know he is at Chesterfield. Looking at his recent video interview it looks like Calderwood did a "mates thing" to get him away from being sat at home twiddling his thumbs. I'm sure the same mates thing would release him to come back th Chester. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Aug 20, 2017 9:43:12 GMT
Realistically very few candidates with decent pedigrees available, those that are any good are already working. Ian Sharps no experience as a manager, on 3 year deal and decent money so even if he was interested would be compensation needed. Bignot did ok at Solihull but got found out very quickly at a bigger club. Brabin available but for me has had little if any success even with money to spend. I am really struggling to come up with a good suggestion, but time to wash my keyboard mouth out as I momentarily thought of Andy Morrell who had decent conference record at you know where!!! Without his near neighbour connections he would perhaps have been a possibility. So for me I think we would probably have to take a risk with Tom Shaw. You have hit the nail on the head. Who the hell is there that we could realistically get in? If I were part of the Operational Board, who run the footie side, I would be doing my research and finding suitable candidates right now. It's probably only a matter of weeks before you'd need one of them. I certainly wouldn't want someone like Brabin here. He's hardly an ideal candidate for a family orientated fans owned club. |
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Post by johny9 on Aug 20, 2017 10:13:56 GMT
Tough one but would really like to see askey here! Builds a competitive team every year at Macc with a similar budget
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