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Post by Deva Chanter on Sept 4, 2017 19:04:00 GMT
Mark Yates is available as well I believe. Didn't work out at Crawley but solid otherwise at Cheltenham and Kiddy? I believe he is potentially taking charge at Torquay. |
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Post by Woody on Sept 4, 2017 19:06:55 GMT
Paul Cox name Names Guisley Manager ffs now that's a coup Andy Holden he's the man we need... better qualified than anyone mentioned, been at greater clubs than all the above with good ck tacts in the game, must be affordable with being manager of Flint Town United now. |
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Post by Jack on Sept 4, 2017 19:07:28 GMT
There's no chance Cox would have come here anyway. He had a huge budget at Barrow and Mansfield. He wouldn't want to work with our resources and Guiseley do seem to have a bit of cash behind them.
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Post by blueisthecolour on Sept 4, 2017 19:11:16 GMT
Andy Holden Flint Town Utd, Chester legend, great coach, loads of connections. Affordable and previously a fans favourite. Had spells at Everton, Hibs and Rotherham. That would be my preference. I've mentioned AH somewhere already, get beat tomorrow I'd have him in by the weekend. Absolutely no chance of Gary Hill coming here. |
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Post by thevoice on Sept 4, 2017 19:12:06 GMT
Shaun reid for me he may not have conference experience however he may get the best out of players bring someone in with him and move shaw back on the pitch i know he's interested as well
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 4, 2017 19:26:28 GMT
Shaun reid for me he may not have conference experience however he may get the best out of players bring someone in with him and move shaw back on the pitch i know he's interested as well He'd be another Neil Young. Great in lower leagues, not good enough for Conference. Pass |
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 4, 2017 20:20:58 GMT
Shaun reid for me he may not have conference experience however he may get the best out of players bring someone in with him and move shaw back on the pitch i know he's interested as well That would be too much of a risk. We could end up back in the Evo Stik like Alty. |
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Post by Rio Doherty on Sept 4, 2017 20:22:18 GMT
Garry Hill for me. I know he's based in the South East, but he's an experienced manager in this league and has never got relegated. Also he would have lots of contacts in the London area and can work well under low budgets. Not many decent managers available now but he would be my choice.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 4, 2017 20:26:01 GMT
Garry Hill for me. I know he's based in the South East, but he's an experienced manager in this league and has never got relegated. Also he would have lots of contacts in the London area and can work well under low budgets. Not many decent managers available now but he would be my choice. If he was so good why is he still out of work and I doubt we could afford to relocate him. |
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Post by jb on Sept 4, 2017 20:35:04 GMT
Not bothered about Cox. Wouldn't fancy chanting his name out if he turns about to be like Burr and Burrer!
Barrow massively underachieved under him last season given the masses of money pumped in by the Dallas Cowboy.
I thought Guiseley's main backer had walked away hence their struggles.
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Post by blueisthecolour on Sept 4, 2017 20:36:24 GMT
Garry Hill for me. I know he's based in the South East, but he's an experienced manager in this league and has never got relegated. Also he would have lots of contacts in the London area and can work well under low budgets. Not many decent managers available now but he would be my choice. He might have loads of contacts in the London area but what player worth his salt would up sticks from down South to join a part-time Northern based Conference Club? It sounds like that we might struggle to pay McCarthy off so I would very much doubt that we'll have the finances to re-locate Gary Hill plus his salary. Zero chance of Gary Hill. |
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 4, 2017 21:19:43 GMT
Well at least we can be with the peace of mind that whoever we appoint, if we do, won't be on a long contract 😉 #lessrisk
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Post by avfo on Sept 4, 2017 23:13:33 GMT
Not bothered about Cox. Wouldn't fancy chanting his name out if he turns about to be like Burr and Burrer! Barrow massively underachieved under him last season given the masses of money pumped in by the Dallas Cowboy. I thought Guiseley's main backer had walked away hence their struggles. No, quite the reverse. Budget was increased and more available if really required. My understanding is that Cox had held informal talks with Torquay, probably before -though that's just my belief, he quit Barrow. It was expected that Cox would be appointed as manager of the Gulls but instead he was spotted at Guiseley two days before Lockwood was sacked. According to local reports his replacement had indeed been lined up several days before. The upshot of this was that Cox was in the enviable position of being courted by two clubs so could, to a limited extent, name his price. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 5, 2017 7:54:07 GMT
Shaun reid for me he may not have conference experience however he may get the best out of players bring someone in with him and move shaw back on the pitch i know he's interested as well I bet he's interested! Warrington Town in the Unibond isn't exactly the managerial stepping stone to Chester is it? Not for me. Remember him in the documentary on Coco. Didn't come across as anything other than a thug. Surely there's better, far less risky options than him. |
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Post by Lobster on Sept 5, 2017 8:33:28 GMT
Shaun reid for me he may not have conference experience however he may get the best out of players bring someone in with him and move shaw back on the pitch i know he's interested as well I bet he's interested! Warrington Town in the Unibond isn't exactly the managerial stepping stone to Chester is it? Not for me. Remember him in the documentary on Coco. Didn't come across as anything other than a thug.Surely there's better, far less risky options than him. I remember thinking he came across quite well in that documentary. Recognised that Smith's motivational mumbo-jumbo talks were getting the players nowhere, so followed them up by telling them what they actually needed to hear. I actually wouldn't mind him getting a go myself. Appreciate it's a risk and a big step up, but there's risk in any appointment. |
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Post by bluefrombirth on Sept 5, 2017 10:17:20 GMT
Andy Holden Flint Town Utd, Chester legend, great coach, loads of connections. Affordable and previously a fans favourite. Had spells at Everton, Hibs and Rotherham. That would be my preference. I've mentioned AH somewhere already, get beat tomorrow I'd have him in by the weekend. Absolutely no chance of Gary Hill coming here. Agreed. From the outside, appointing the manager of Flint Town to a national league club would seem bonkers. Truth is we can't afford the likes of Gary Hill, Paul Cox etc. Its not their wage demands that will be the problem, those types of mangers will have their hands out at the earliest opportunity, demanding money for signings/loans. Burr did it, because that is the way you manage at this level these days, most will be the same. Macca may not be the greatest tactical manager, I think we can all agree on that, but he always put the business of being a fan owned football club first.We have a limited budget and limited resources compared to our opponents in this league, we need a manager who is able to get the most out of these, but also put in more off the field than other's. Andy Holden is that man. He doesn't need the money, he's at age in his life where he can see the value of football beyond the pitch as well. You don't survive in the premier league as a top coach if you haven't got something special about you, he was good enough for Everton and turned Hibs into Cup Winners with Stubbs. Would give everything for this club and demand that his players would too. |
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Post by embalmer on Sept 5, 2017 11:34:35 GMT
Not bothered at all about missing out on Cox - as others have said, he's only ever succeeded with big budgets - baffles me that people would even suggest him for a club like us. Better the devil you know as they say.
I like the two Andy shouts - Holden is obviously known to the club from his playing career and has a pretty good CV, albeit lacks managerial experience (he's unbeaten so far as Flint Town manager). Morrell has a really good track record at both of his clubs and he's stayed at both for a long time. Believe he's got a two year contract at Tamworth though which could make a move for him too expensive and could people get over the Wrexham thing?
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Post by sealking on Sept 5, 2017 11:50:43 GMT
Andy holden does tick a lot of boxes.
Been a coach at a decent high level,
Local and was a chester favourite,
Should have decent contacts and being at flint and academies should have a better attitude towards budgets and getting the best out of what he has available. He's also not tied down and certainly half the wage what Mccarthy would be on. In That league contracts are mostly temporary so shouldn't be a problem getting him. The money we'd save getting him he could also have his own proper asstiant giving us shaw back to play.
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Post by billyw on Sept 5, 2017 12:01:30 GMT
Andy holden does tick a lot of boxes. Been a coach at a decent high level, Local and was a chester favourite, Should have decent contacts and being at flint and academies should have a better attitude towards budgets and getting the best out of what he has available. He's also not tied down and certainly half the wage what Mccarthy would be on. In That league contracts are mostly temporary so shouldn't be a problem getting him. The money we'd save getting him he could also have his own proper asstiant giving us shaw back to play. Nothing against Holden (or Reid for that matter) but IMO whether they were fans favourites as players should not be a factor when selecting a manager. Remember Ian Rush. |
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Post by Woody on Sept 5, 2017 13:23:17 GMT
Andy holden does tick a lot of boxes. Been a coach at a decent high level, Local and was a chester favourite, Should have decent contacts and being at flint and academies should have a better attitude towards budgets and getting the best out of what he has available. He's also not tied down and certainly half the wage what Mccarthy would be on. In That league contracts are mostly temporary so shouldn't be a problem getting him. The money we'd save getting him he could also have his own proper asstiant giving us shaw back to play. Nothing against Holden (or Reid for that matter) but IMO whether they were fans favourites as players should not be a factor when selecting a manager. Remember Ian Rush. BillyW, I would tend to agree with you on this point ie Rush, however Graham Barrow didn't do a bad job. I believe Andy Holden is the best available and has valuable experience in the game. I can imagine his coaching CV and also his assistant management duties at Everton / Hibs makes him a stand out candidate if the managers job was to become available. As a club with limited resources we would end up getting much more value for our money in Andy H and a manager who would take this team to a better level than we are currently experiencing at this present moment, he has history in promoting/assisting youth team players to senior status which he has done at previous clubs considerable success. |
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Post by noddy on Sept 5, 2017 13:32:15 GMT
Nothing against Holden (or Reid for that matter) but IMO whether they were fans favourites as players should not be a factor when selecting a manager. Remember Ian Rush. BillyW, I would tend to agree with you on this point ie Rush, however Graham Barrow didn't do a bad job. I believe Andy Holden is the best available and has valuable experience in the game. I can imagine his coaching CV and also his assistant management duties at Everton / Hibs makes him a stand out candidate if the managers job was to become available. As a club with limited resources we would end up getting much more value for our money in Andy H and a manager who would take this team to a better level than we are currently experiencing at this present moment, he has history in promoting/assisting youth team players to senior status which he has done at previous clubs considerable success. I haven't really had a strong opinion personally about McCarthy's replacement but I can see a lot of plusses in your argument regarding Andy Holden. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 5, 2017 14:41:32 GMT
BillyW, I would tend to agree with you on this point ie Rush, however Graham Barrow didn't do a bad job. I believe Andy Holden is the best available and has valuable experience in the game. I can imagine his coaching CV and also his assistant management duties at Everton / Hibs makes him a stand out candidate if the managers job was to become available. As a club with limited resources we would end up getting much more value for our money in Andy H and a manager who would take this team to a better level than we are currently experiencing at this present moment, he has history in promoting/assisting youth team players to senior status which he has done at previous clubs considerable success. I haven't really had a strong opinion personally about McCarthy's replacement but I can see a lot of plusses in your argument regarding Andy Holden. I can also follow the logic in Andy Holden. Always wary about ending up with a coach, rather than a manager though. That's really what we've got now. AH would probably need someone who knew the National League too. Certainly worth adding to the short list. There aren't many obvious ones to add to it. |
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Post by rcb on Sept 5, 2017 15:04:04 GMT
I haven't really had a strong opinion personally about McCarthy's replacement but I can see a lot of plusses in your argument regarding Andy Holden. I can also follow the logic in Andy Holden. Always wary about ending up with a coach, rather than a manager though. That's really what we've got now. AH would probably need someone who knew the National League too. Certainly worth adding to the short list. There aren't many obvious ones to add to it. Just been reading about Martin O'Neill starting in management 25 years ago. He joined Wycombe in the conference and took them to promotion, in probably their best era in football. Proof that knowledge of the conference(now National) League not a pre- requisite. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 5, 2017 15:11:11 GMT
I can also follow the logic in Andy Holden. Always wary about ending up with a coach, rather than a manager though. That's really what we've got now. AH would probably need someone who knew the National League too. Certainly worth adding to the short list. There aren't many obvious ones to add to it. Just been reading about Martin O'Neill starting in management 25 years ago. He joined Wycombe in the conference and took them to promotion, in probably their best era in football. Proof that knowledge of the conference(now National) League not a pre- requisite. Fair point. Having experience should reduce the risk though. Not many National League managers go on to become Premier League and International managers. He might have been an exception! |
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Post by 1paulcarden on Sept 5, 2017 15:17:56 GMT
Brabin's win ratio at this level is incredible considering he managed southport twice. It's got to be either him or Bignot for me. Someone who knows the league is a must.
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Post by waggoner on Sept 5, 2017 15:51:11 GMT
Andy holden does tick a lot of boxes. Been a coach at a decent high level, Local and was a chester favourite, Should have decent contacts and being at flint and academies should have a better attitude towards budgets and getting the best out of what he has available. He's also not tied down and certainly half the wage what Mccarthy would be on. In That league contracts are mostly temporary so shouldn't be a problem getting him. The money we'd save getting him he could also have his own proper asstiant giving us shaw back to play. I hope the board don't go for the 'cheap option' and offer it to Shaw. We really need to get a proper manager in and stop pussy footing around |
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Post by Helsby Blue on Sept 5, 2017 16:02:21 GMT
Andy Holden for me. He was hi ghly thought of at Everton and will have lots of contacts in the game. As already mentioned would be able to work within the restraints of our model and I feel would get the team organised and would have a bit more bollocks about him than JM.
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Post by rcb on Sept 5, 2017 16:50:28 GMT
Sam Allardyce has never been relegated. I wonder if he's bored sat at home since his retirement? Sadly, with the money at Chester's disposal there's no point in dreaming. Sticking with reality, whoever made the shout about Andy Holden has come up with a realistic solution. Passion about the club and the fans without question. After the hatred by many towards the current incumbent, Holden would be welcomed by all, with open arms.
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Post by Woody on Sept 5, 2017 17:31:57 GMT
Sam Allardyce has never been relegated. I wonder if he's bored sat at home since his retirement? Sadly, with the money at Chester's disposal there's no point in dreaming. Sticking with reality, whoever made the shout about Andy Holden has come up with a realistic solution. Passion about the club and the fans without question. After the hatred by many towards the current incumbent, Holden would be welcomed by all, with open arms. Here's why AH is such a good choice and a far superior to the rest mentioned above in previous posts. www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neil-warnock-blunder-over-andy-3477395.amp |
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Post by iandychesterfc on Sept 5, 2017 18:35:59 GMT
Jim Harvey
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