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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 16, 2023 9:51:10 GMT
Understand where you're coming from, but we can't have moderators deleting posts that differ from their opinion and then sending foul-mouth tirades to other posters where they admit they love "winding up" others.
Not befitting of a moderator IMO, and he needs to have those privileges removed. The other three mods seem to manage to do the job properly so why can't he?
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Post by lincolnexile on Jun 16, 2023 9:55:27 GMT
Understand where you're coming from, but we can't have moderators deleting posts that differ from their opinion and then sending foul-mouth tirades to other posters where they admit they love "winding up" others. Not befitting of a moderator IMO, and he needs to have those privileges removed. Why don't you take it up with Si privately? No one else is interested in you and Worley Blue having a go at each other.
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Post by Curva Nord on Jun 16, 2023 10:35:12 GMT
Understand where you're coming from, but we can't have moderators deleting posts that differ from their opinion and then sending foul-mouth tirades to other posters where they admit they love "winding up" others. Not befitting of a moderator IMO, and he needs to have those privileges removed. Why don't you take it up with Si privately? No one else is interested in you and Worley Blue having a go at each other. Exactly, no one cares, the amount of shit political bait you drop in every thread you can't moan either
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Post by Curva Nord on Jun 16, 2023 10:37:58 GMT
Back to the topic in hand though are their pictures up in the turnstiles so operators can recognise them? Do their mates work on the gate and let them in anyway? I guess it depends what part of the ground you're in. If you're on the North Terrace you're not going to recognise a H Block regular
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Post by Harry Lime on Jun 16, 2023 10:39:59 GMT
Simple.
Let's have a NO POLITICS policy on the football related area. Zero tolerance.
Just like we should have zero tolerance to those who cause trouble at the matches. Bringing it back to the original thread. Had we dealt with the two instances at the Chorley game properly, maybe the Brackley stuff would be less likely to occur.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 16, 2023 11:21:16 GMT
No point having more than one thread on here, every thread turns into the same people having the same argument over and over and over again 🥱🥱 Every thread? Quick glance through page 1 of Deva Chat and just one thread out of twenty five has been impacted by a political argument.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 16, 2023 11:24:16 GMT
Simple. Let's have a NO POLITICS policy on the football related area. Zero tolerance. Just like we should have zero tolerance to those who cause trouble at the matches. Bringing it back to the original thread. Had we dealt with the two instances at the Chorley game properly, maybe the Brackley stuff would be less likely to occur. So when a poster is having a moan about delays in the criminal justice system are we all supposed to ignore it or look at our feet?
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Post by 54321 on Jun 16, 2023 13:14:12 GMT
Jesus surely this is just a bit of boredom come first match day we will all be back to normal.
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Post by loskasleftfoot on Jun 16, 2023 13:32:31 GMT
Trying to get back on topic, I assume that we have CCTV on each turnstile. If not then we should have.
It's then a fairly simple exercise to check for anyone banned without inconveniencing the remaining supporters with delays, ID checks, strip searches or whatever
"Johnny X has gone into the Harry Mac wearing a blue hoody" instruction to Police who can come and arrest him.
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Post by Harry Lime on Jun 16, 2023 16:12:26 GMT
Simple. Let's have a NO POLITICS policy on the football related area. Zero tolerance. Just like we should have zero tolerance to those who cause trouble at the matches. Bringing it back to the original thread. Had we dealt with the two instances at the Chorley game properly, maybe the Brackley stuff would be less likely to occur. So when a poster is having a moan about delays in the criminal justice system are we all supposed to ignore it or look at our feet? You can state there is a delay in the Justice system without using that as an excuse to make yet another political statement. As far back as I can remember there has been delays.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 16, 2023 16:47:27 GMT
So when a poster is having a moan about delays in the criminal justice system are we all supposed to ignore it or look at our feet? You can state there is a delay in the Justice system without using that as an excuse to make yet another political statement. As far back as I can remember there has been delays. The “moderator” (ha!) asked WHY there are delays. Ian gave him the answer. Not “an” answer. THE answer. Just because you don’t like the answer that isn’t a reason to censor it. The question was related to this very topic in this very thread; the answer was in response to that question. Really not sure how/what you expect people to post in those circumstances.
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Post by Harry Lime on Jun 16, 2023 17:58:52 GMT
You can state there is a delay in the Justice system without using that as an excuse to make yet another political statement. As far back as I can remember there has been delays. The “moderator” (ha!) asked WHY there are delays. Ian gave him the answer. Not “an” answer. THE answer. Just because you don’t like the answer that isn’t a reason to censor it. The question was related to this very topic in this very thread; the answer was in response to that question. Really not sure how/what you expect people to post in those circumstances. Don't disagree with your comments regarding censorship. Mods should be neutral and moderate our comments. There's ways of saying things without an overtly political statement of any persuasion. One persons beliefs won't be another's, and were unlikely to change their view. I'm probably older than you and things were at least as bad in the mid to late 70s, as they are now. In fact there's a lot of parallels, including increase in violent behaviour at football.
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Post by 1paulcarden on Jun 17, 2023 13:24:16 GMT
The “moderator” (ha!) asked WHY there are delays. Ian gave him the answer. Not “an” answer. THE answer. Just because you don’t like the answer that isn’t a reason to censor it. The question was related to this very topic in this very thread; the answer was in response to that question. Really not sure how/what you expect people to post in those circumstances. Don't disagree with your comments regarding censorship. Mods should be neutral and moderate our comments. There's ways of saying things without an overtly political statement of any persuasion. One persons beliefs won't be another's, and were unlikely to change their view. I'm probably older than you and things were at least as bad in the mid to late 70s, as they are now. In fact there's a lot of parallels, including increase in violent behaviour at football. Cuts in the criminal justice system is not a belief, it’s a fact (as has been alluded to earlier). Why that is, is up to people to interpret. Maybe ask Randox or Michelle Mone.
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Post by waggoner on Jun 17, 2023 18:24:39 GMT
Don't disagree with your comments regarding censorship. Mods should be neutral and moderate our comments. There's ways of saying things without an overtly political statement of any persuasion. One persons beliefs won't be another's, and were unlikely to change their view. I'm probably older than you and things were at least as bad in the mid to late 70s, as they are now. In fact there's a lot of parallels, including increase in violent behaviour at football. Cuts in the criminal justice system is not a belief, it’s a fact (as has been alluded to earlier). Why that is, is up to people to interpret. Maybe ask Randox or Michelle Mone. I work in the criminal justice system and trust me it’s horrendous there have been massive cuts and it’s so hard to do our jobs
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Jun 17, 2023 19:09:28 GMT
Cuts in the criminal justice system is not a belief, it’s a fact (as has been alluded to earlier). Why that is, is up to people to interpret. Maybe ask Randox or Michelle Mone. I work in the criminal justice system and trust me it’s horrendous there have been massive cuts and it’s so hard to do our jobs Bloody Labour.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2023 12:54:42 GMT
I see our new commercial brochure has been released featuring photos of the same ‘suspect’ who was front and centre of the Brackley incident (under the player sponsorship bit ironically).
I mean fuck sake, who’s rolled this out?
Same person who’d previously been under a ban and isn’t just a ‘1 game a year idiot’.
I actually can’t believe he hasn’t been named yet, same idiot who threatened fans on Twitter and then deleted it.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 19, 2023 15:09:49 GMT
Now concentrate this time. These (holds some plastic cows) are small... but those (points out the window) are far away.
Small... far away... ahh forget it.
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Post by blaconboy on Jun 20, 2023 5:56:37 GMT
Now concentrate this time. These (holds some plastic cows) are small... but those (points out the window) are far away. Small... far away... ahh forget it. Confucious, he say .........
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Post by Moltisanti on Jun 23, 2023 6:46:24 GMT
Brackley fans getting arrested too. Maybe the narrative that they were all totally innocent can be quashed now. Storming into our end behind the goal hitting youths and throwing objects onto the pitch.
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Post by hackett on Jun 23, 2023 6:50:10 GMT
Brackley fans getting arrested too. Maybe the narrative that they were all totally innocent can be quashed now. Storming into our end behind the goal hitting youths and throwing objects onto the pitch. Was only a matter of time before their true antics came to light. And people wanted to offer them free tickets to the fixture this season aswell. I saw them attack a disabled man by the gates to the car park after all the commotion.
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Post by Moltisanti on Jun 23, 2023 6:51:49 GMT
Brackley fans getting arrested too. Maybe the narrative that they were all totally innocent can be quashed now. Storming into our end behind the goal hitting youths and throwing objects onto the pitch. Was only a matter of time before their true antics came to light. And people wanted to offer them free tickets to the fixture this season aswell. I saw them attack a disabled man by the gates to the car park after all the commotion. Sure, innocent people were caught up in the fracas which is a shame but a large section of their support were complicit.
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Post by Curva Nord on Jun 23, 2023 7:58:41 GMT
Brackley fans getting arrested too. Maybe the narrative that they were all totally innocent can be quashed now. Storming into our end behind the goal hitting youths and throwing objects onto the pitch. Was only a matter of time before their true antics came to light. And people wanted to offer them free tickets to the fixture this season aswell. I saw them attack a disabled man by the gates to the car park after all the commotion. Why don't you lot organise the scrap on the farmers field away from the ground then? If you want to go fight other fans who are wanting to fight, fair enough, dig out. However the gassing of kids in wheel chairs just isn't on really is it.
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Post by Lobster on Jun 23, 2023 9:23:56 GMT
If any Brackley fans were involved, they should face the consequences as well, but we can only do something about our own idiots. Let's not turn it into "but they were doing it as well". Be the bigger man and take responsibility.
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Post by cmbwa on Jun 23, 2023 12:18:56 GMT
Was only a matter of time before their true antics came to light. And people wanted to offer them free tickets to the fixture this season aswell. I saw them attack a disabled man by the gates to the car park after all the commotion. Why don't you lot organise the scrap on the farmers field away from the ground then? If you want to go fight other fans who are wanting to fight, fair enough, dig out. However the gassing of kids in wheel chairs just isn't on really is it. Didn't happen
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Post by Moltisanti on Jun 23, 2023 12:22:09 GMT
Gassing of kids in wheelchairs 😂😂
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Post by iandychesterfc on Jun 23, 2023 12:30:45 GMT
I work in the criminal justice system and trust me it’s horrendous there have been massive cuts and it’s so hard to do our jobs Bloody Labour. Well, quite. It started with Carter and hasnt improved since. Because no-one cares until they're in it, or something goes wrong to give it attention.
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Post by Curva Nord on Jun 23, 2023 13:23:15 GMT
Why don't you lot organise the scrap on the farmers field away from the ground then? If you want to go fight other fans who are wanting to fight, fair enough, dig out. However the gassing of kids in wheel chairs just isn't on really is it. Didn't happen Did a child who is a wheelchair user get hit with a pyrotechnic?
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Post by cmbwa on Jun 23, 2023 13:51:48 GMT
Did a child who is a wheelchair user get hit with a pyrotechnic? No, not to my knowledge. I read comments that a child(no mention of wheelchair) was hit but no evidence. Stop making things up
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Post by Si on Jun 23, 2023 14:34:43 GMT
Not sure if any of this is helpful. At the end of the day we were all there and know what we saw, there were plenty of wet the beds from our side that couldn't handle losing and transpires that there may have been some of the Brackley lot that didn't cover themselves in glory either. The police are dealing with it, and they've got enough video evidence to identify the worst offenders. Let them deal with it, and the club are already dealing with the implications of it with the capacity reduction, nothing else to discuss really. It's history now, we've since raised 106k for Boost the Budget and we're not far off pre season, move on folks.
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Post by cscs on Jun 23, 2023 16:49:41 GMT
Brackley fans getting arrested too. Maybe the narrative that they were all totally innocent can be quashed now. Storming into our end behind the goal hitting youths and throwing objects onto the pitch. That's literally the first time I've seen anyone suggest anything like that happened - either on here or on Twitter. Maybe that narrative wasn't there because...it didn't happen Saying a large section of their fans were complicit is absolutely ridiculous
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