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Post by devachatter on Jun 23, 2023 18:15:37 GMT
One of the lads posted on facebook this morning he's looking at a lifetime ban and is expected to do some time behind bars and now he regrets his actions
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Post by Moltisanti on Jun 23, 2023 20:12:30 GMT
Brackley fans getting arrested too. Maybe the narrative that they were all totally innocent can be quashed now. Storming into our end behind the goal hitting youths and throwing objects onto the pitch. That's literally the first time I've seen anyone suggest anything like that happened - either on here or on Twitter. Maybe that narrative wasn't there because...it didn't happen Saying a large section of their fans were complicit is absolutely ridiculous What do you think they’re looking to arrest them for then?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 2, 2023 22:23:14 GMT
I see our new commercial brochure has been released featuring photos of the same ‘suspect’ who was front and centre of the Brackley incident (under the player sponsorship bit ironically). I mean fuck sake, who’s rolled this out? Same person who’d previously been under a ban and isn’t just a ‘1 game a year idiot’. I actually can’t believe he hasn’t been named yet, same idiot who threatened fans on Twitter and then deleted it. Saw something similar from the club account this weekend, promoting stuff which included a picture of a different known offender from the Brackley game who has been contacted by the Police over it.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 5, 2023 10:45:43 GMT
Club have announced this morning that the FA have now charged us. more details to follow.
Won't be a points deduction as that is hugely unprecedented but bound to be a fine and the possibility of behind closed doors game(s)?
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Post by hblock on Jul 5, 2023 10:58:14 GMT
Much worse has happened at other clubs and I can't recall points deductions or any games behind closed doors. It'll just be a fine.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 5, 2023 11:01:55 GMT
Has much worse happened than 100+ people running the width of the pitch to throw objects at small number of away fans, without any real provocation?
It was pretty dreadful. I've not heard of much else like it.
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Post by Lon on Jul 5, 2023 11:15:55 GMT
Notts Forest got a fine when billy sharp got attacked. Don’t really see the outcome being much different for us
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Post by Si on Jul 5, 2023 11:54:53 GMT
Hope this doesn't undermine the good feeling around the club at the moment. Can totally understand BTB contributors feeling mugged off if their contributions end up paying for the actions of the pondlife from the Brackley game.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 5, 2023 12:05:16 GMT
Yep, it's that simple.
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Post by Lon on Jul 5, 2023 12:23:07 GMT
Hope this doesn't undermine the good feeling around the club at the moment. Can totally understand BTB contributors feeling mugged off if their contributions end up paying for the actions of the pondlife from the Brackley game. Boost the budget is ring fenced on the playing squad remember. That money won’t be used to pay a potential fine off
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Post by Lobster on Jul 5, 2023 12:25:42 GMT
Notts Forest got a fine when billy sharp got attacked. Don’t really see the outcome being much different for us That was just one idiot in a crowd of tens of thousand, although there were others on the pitch. From a crowd of 4,000, the number of people involved in the Brackley incident was pretty shockingly high proportionally. I tend to agree a fine and some sort of action plan for how we address it would be enough, but I do think we should acknowledge it was an exceptionally appalling incident. A good level worse than anything I've seen at a Chester match previously for me.
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Post by martyntrumpcaster on Jul 5, 2023 13:29:05 GMT
Notts Forest got a fine when billy sharp got attacked. Don’t really see the outcome being much different for us That was just one idiot in a crowd of tens of thousand, although there were others on the pitch. From a crowd of 4,000, the number of people involved in the Brackley incident was pretty shockingly high proportionally. I tend to agree a fine and some sort of action plan for how we address it would be enough, but I do think we should acknowledge it was an exceptionally appalling incident. A good level worse than anything I've seen at a Chester match previously for me. Yes. A nasty end to an otherwise great season. I think we have to learn from it. The event didn't come from nowhere.
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Post by Harry Lime on Jul 5, 2023 14:41:14 GMT
Hope this doesn't undermine the good feeling around the club at the moment. Can totally understand BTB contributors feeling mugged off if their contributions end up paying for the actions of the pondlife from the Brackley game. Boost the budget is ring fenced on the playing squad remember. That money won’t be used to pay a potential fine off While this is true, the BTB money is added to the rest of the clubs money to fund a competitive squad. The rest of the money will likely now be reduced after paying a fine. Effectively the full budget is reduced by the amount of any fine. A £10k fine would reduce our squad wages by around £250pw over the season. That means one less squad player, or a lower level player being signed than otherwise. Instead of Willoughby you might get Peers.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Jul 5, 2023 18:13:15 GMT
Boost the budget is ring fenced on the playing squad remember. That money won’t be used to pay a potential fine off While this is true, the BTB money is added to the rest of the clubs money to fund a competitive squad. The rest of the money will likely now be reduced after paying a fine. Effectively the full budget is reduced by the amount of any fine. A £10k fine would reduce our squad wages by around £250pw over the season. That means one less squad player, or a lower level player being signed than otherwise. Instead of Willoughby you might get Peers. Or neither.
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Post by Churton Blue on Jul 5, 2023 20:23:46 GMT
I would expect any fine to be taken out of the amount allocated for contingency. Will obviously affect the bottom line at the end of the season and therefore the level of reserves. Would make no sense from any perspective to take if from playing budget but the club will be x amount worse off than it would have otherwise have been.
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Post by Forever Blue on Jul 6, 2023 3:35:26 GMT
At the end of the day it will still cost the club no matter what, I hope those idiots are so proud of themselves and I even wonder if they are regular fans. you have achieved nothing but potentially cost your club more than you have paid in ticket prices over the season 😒😒 add to that you may serve prison time what total idiots you are. Best of luck in hmp Walton you total idiots i bet you regret it then 😒😒😒
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Post by vandycandy on Jul 6, 2023 8:37:05 GMT
Anyone know if it was just the 8 arrests?
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Post by RonD on Jul 6, 2023 11:47:18 GMT
Anyone know if it was just the 8 arrests? The eight were banned by the club. Only one lad been in court so far I think?
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Post by Moltisanti on Jul 6, 2023 11:55:29 GMT
One person has been nicked.
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Post by chesterblue on Jul 6, 2023 14:43:52 GMT
What happened at the end of the Brackley game is regrettable but there will be a lot of people waiting for a tap on the shoulder.We must let the Police deal with this and await the results. I have a problem with our fans in that it seems the usual regular moaners on here just love to stir it. No names mentioned but you will know who !!
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Post by Deva93 on Jul 7, 2023 22:39:37 GMT
At the end of the day it will still cost the club no matter what, I hope those idiots are so proud of themselves and I even wonder if they are regular fans. you have achieved nothing but potentially cost your club more than you have paid in ticket prices over the season 😒😒 add to that you may serve prison time what total idiots you are. Best of luck in hmp Walton you total idiots i bet you regret it then 😒😒😒 100 per cent agree, but being realistic I don't expect anyone to be looking at prison time, unless they threw flares or objects at their fans and they already had previous convictions, otherwise there probably looking at a football banning order.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 8, 2023 6:50:36 GMT
Nah, it’ll be FBO’s but it won’t make a difference as FBO’s can’t be enforced so it wouldn’t surprise me if the same stuff happens next season. Sone of them were already serving FBOs. It’s that simple.
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Post by cfcforme on Jul 8, 2023 7:06:27 GMT
That was just one idiot in a crowd of tens of thousand, although there were others on the pitch. From a crowd of 4,000, the number of people involved in the Brackley incident was pretty shockingly high proportionally. I tend to agree a fine and some sort of action plan for how we address it would be enough, but I do think we should acknowledge it was an exceptionally appalling incident. A good level worse than anything I've seen at a Chester match previously for me. Yes. A nasty end to an otherwise great season. I think we have to learn from it. The event didn't come from nowhere. On the subject of learning from it, have / will we see anything from the club to review how this happened and what they'll do differently in future? It's all good dealing with the idiots who did it with bans, but it'll all just happen again in a tense high stakes game if we keep doing what we've always done.
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Post by avfo on Jul 8, 2023 11:29:38 GMT
Nah, it’ll be FBO’s but it won’t make a difference as FBO’s can’t be enforced so it wouldn’t surprise me if the same stuff happens next season. Sone of them were already serving FBOs. It’s that simple. That's simply not true. There is a world of difference between can't and haven't.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 8, 2023 14:11:08 GMT
Wouldn’t want to be the turnstyle operator volunteer suddenly given the responsibility to reject entry to a violent criminal. So yeah, can’t.
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Post by loskasleftfoot on Jul 8, 2023 17:38:15 GMT
A camera on each turnstile solves it. 5 mins to check and then direct PC Plod to the appropriate area to arrest and detain.
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Post by Lon on Jul 8, 2023 19:21:10 GMT
Wouldn’t want to be the turnstyle operator volunteer suddenly given the responsibility to reject entry to a violent criminal. So yeah, can’t. Not the job of the turnstile operator to identify and reject entry though is it. Would be the job of stewards/police inside the ground to identify and remove from the stadium grounds and if it is a court issued FBO then they’ll be arrested and eventually prosecuted
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Jul 8, 2023 23:03:04 GMT
Wouldn’t want to be the turnstyle operator volunteer suddenly given the responsibility to reject entry to a violent criminal. So yeah, can’t. Not the job of the turnstile operator to identify and reject entry though is it. Would be the job of stewards/police inside the ground to identify and remove from the stadium grounds and if it is a court issued FBO then they’ll be arrested and eventually prosecuted I guess in the stadium it is the safety managers responsibility to identify and remove anybody breaching a banning order.
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Post by avfo on Jul 8, 2023 23:18:54 GMT
Not the job of the turnstile operator to identify and reject entry though is it. Would be the job of stewards/police inside the ground to identify and remove from the stadium grounds and if it is a court issued FBO then they’ll be arrested and eventually prosecuted I guess in the stadium it is the safety managers responsibility to identify and remove anybody breaching a banning order. Anybody who breaches a FBO is committing a criminal offence, so it should fall upon the police (assuming they have a presence at the stadium) to both act to arrest and oversee the ejection of a suspected offender. I suspect for most of next season, necessary or not, a police presence will be in evidence.
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Post by miltongraham on Jul 9, 2023 7:26:10 GMT
A camera on each turnstile solves it. 5 mins to check and then direct PC Plod to the appropriate area to arrest and detain. I know its a cost to us but the turnstiles and entry areas into the ground need cameras , we could have identified the broken jaw incident culprits as they entered the area and it would show to the FA etc That we are proactive .
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