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Post by South Wirral Blue on Oct 14, 2017 16:26:09 GMT
Interesting post-match interview. Bignot is really impressive, he says we will committing to a full-time training programme from Monday. When asked whether all the players can do that, he replied "They'll have to, they're well-paid and we'll be training full-time". He's furious, but says that we need to be a full time club, or else there'll always be excuses. Totally right. If they don't like it they can gladly leave and play at a club more fitting of their pathetic standard. Starting with the likes of Halls and Waters. GO. We'd have got more out of a youth side this afternoon. |
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Post by jb on Oct 14, 2017 16:48:56 GMT
Well done McCarthy on assembling such an assemblage of losers who truly reflect his spineless and gutless persona. The likes of Halls, McCombe, Davies, Chappel, Joyce etc are just a joke and will send us down.
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Post by Al on Oct 14, 2017 16:53:35 GMT
I would go to Leicester on my hands and knees and beg them to have Sam Hughes back on loan for a month or two. Christ wed at least give ourselves a chance then and he'd be playing proper football not playing in empty stadiums for a youth team
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Post by ubb1689 on Oct 14, 2017 16:54:39 GMT
Interesting post-match interview. Bignot is really impressive, he says we will committing to a full-time training programme from Monday. When asked whether all the players can do that, he replied "They'll have to, they're well-paid and we'll be training full-time". He's furious, but says that we need to be a full time club, or else there'll always be excuses. Where's this interview. |
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Oct 14, 2017 16:55:49 GMT
Interesting post-match interview. Bignot is really impressive, he says we will committing to a full-time training programme from Monday. When asked whether all the players can do that, he replied "They'll have to, they're well-paid and we'll be training full-time". He's furious, but says that we need to be a full time club, or else there'll always be excuses. Very interesting. Bignot was told at his interview the players contracts were for 3 x a week training and he was told the budget, said having watched the team he was happy with that. These players, as bad and unfit as they are, signed contacts for 3 days a week. Demanding they do full time, unless he’s prepared to pay them or club to renegotiate contracts is a desperate situation. I just hope he’s said it in the hope some move on and free up some wages! His Man management now is crucial, something he was criticised for at Grimsby. I do think MaGuire should not avoid scrutiny here. He’s the experienced football CEO yet he’s allowed this situation to develop, as well as JMs ridiculously long contract, MaGuire is there to advise the volunteers who chop and change as Directors. His advice has been worse than poor. We are in the Doo Doo make no mistake. |
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Post by Rio Doherty on Oct 14, 2017 17:04:10 GMT
Words can’t describe what an appalling performance I have just watched. I’ve been following the blues for 7 years now and that is one of the worst I have ever seen. Kidderminster looked like the National League team and we looked evo-stik standard. They were excellent and fully deserved the win. Kiddy played the ball on the floor, passed and moved, ran rings around us and they played like that for almost the whole game. However, we were awful. Hardly anyone played for the shirt, we never did anything with the ball and just let the hosts play. This is arguably our biggest game of the season. Us supporters have been looking forward to this for a long while and don’t deserve to be treated to a performance as bad as that. I’m tired of these press interviews such as ‘we are going to go on a run’, when we haven’t again. None of them looked up for it today. Most of the team were woeful but Halls was even worse. Lacked fitness, didn’t stop a cross at all and whenever he had the ball he just hoofed it up to nobody.
I feel dreadfully sorry for Marcus Bignot, though. He has had to come into all this mess which JM has left and he can’t really do anything at the moment. If he had the funds then he could make a lot of changes and get rid of this dross. However, he has a massive task on his hands now. On a positive, at least we will go full time now. Much needed!
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Post by bonecrusher on Oct 14, 2017 17:11:41 GMT
Rio I dont feel sorry for Bignot although hes not to blame for this mess. He came into it with his eyes wide open and knew the score. He is up for the challenge.
Admittedly if we had some funds he would be in a better position but we let McCarthy squander the lot.
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Post by RonD on Oct 14, 2017 17:12:31 GMT
Interesting post-match interview. Bignot is really impressive, he says we will committing to a full-time training programme from Monday. When asked whether all the players can do that, he replied "They'll have to, they're well-paid and we'll be training full-time". He's furious, but says that we need to be a full time club, or else there'll always be excuses. Where's this interview. |
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Post by The Swansway on Oct 14, 2017 17:21:35 GMT
I heard Bignot did a Phil Brown and brought the players back on the pitch after the final whistle for a seeing to in front of the away fans.
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Post by sqzl on Oct 14, 2017 17:27:19 GMT
Full time club from Monday if players don't like it they can leave - Marcus Bignot
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Post by shango on Oct 14, 2017 17:27:50 GMT
Curious about MB saying full time training start's from Monday.
One question - if player's are on part time contract's where's the cash coming from for full time training?
What am i missing here?
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Post by Anders on Oct 14, 2017 17:30:55 GMT
I heard Bignot did a Phil Brown and brought the players back on the pitch after the final whistle for a seeing to in front of the away fans. He does it every game. |
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Post by Jack on Oct 14, 2017 17:30:58 GMT
I think we all agree with MB, and I'm glad to see a manager trying to rectify a very obvious problem in us being part time in this division.
I've no idea what the the reality is, surely we cannot impose this on players who already have a contract?
If it costs us more money, then so be it. I'd sooner take kids released from higher clubs with a hunger to climb back up the ladder on smaller wages. These are the sort of players Bignot has a track record of developing, it might be the way forward for us at the moment. It's got to be better than paying Andy Halls to train 3 mornings a week.
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Post by southernblue on Oct 14, 2017 17:33:43 GMT
One of the most gutless, heartless, lacklustre performances I have ever seen. That bunch of players should refuse to accept their wages this week if they have any ounce of character.
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Post by billyw on Oct 14, 2017 17:43:18 GMT
Words can’t describe what an appalling performance I have just watched. I’ve been following the blues for 7 years now and that is one of the worst I have ever seen. Kidderminster looked like the National League team and we looked evo-stik standard. They were excellent and fully deserved the win. Kiddy played the ball on the floor, passed and moved, ran rings around us and they played like that for almost the whole game. However, we were awful. Hardly anyone played for the shirt, we never did anything with the ball and just let the hosts play. This is arguably our biggest game of the season. Us supporters have been looking forward to this for a long while and don’t deserve to be treated to a performance as bad as that. I’m tired of these press interviews such as ‘we are going to go on a run’, when we haven’t again. None of them looked up for it today. Most of the team were woeful but Halls was even worse. Lacked fitness, didn’t stop a cross at all and whenever he had the ball he just hoofed it up to nobody. I feel dreadfully sorry for Marcus Bignot, though. He has had to come into all this mess which JM has left and he can’t really do anything at the moment. If he had the funds then he could make a lot of changes and get rid of this dross. However, he has a massive task on his hands now. On a positive, at least we will go full time now. Much needed! Sorry but to say you feel sorry for Bignot is crap. He knew what he was coming into. We may not have the quality of players we want, but there is no excuse for the squad looking so unfit, disorganised and unprepared to give 100%. This is the managers responsibility to get right and should be achievable without being full time. Thinking we can afford to go full time is living in cloud cuckoo land. |
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Post by Charfield Blue on Oct 14, 2017 17:43:53 GMT
Wow. That's my first time watching the blues this season. We were totally outclassed. Kidderminster just had far too much ability, pace, fitness, movement and structure for us to compete. The difference was stark. I don't know where we go from here? I would happily pay to watch Kidderminster the way they play. Their no 10, 7 & 3 especially were outstanding. The only time they looked vulnerable was when we put a couple of decent deliveries into the box which McCoombe and I think Chappell should have put away. But it would have been a travesty if Kidderminster hadn't won that the way they dominated and controlled the middle of the park. Grim watching.
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Post by billyw on Oct 14, 2017 17:46:31 GMT
Wow. That's my first time watching the blues this season. We were totally outclassed. Kidderminster just had far too much ability, pace, fitness, movement and structure for us to compete. The difference was stark. I don't know where we go from here? I would happily pay to watch Kidderminster the way they play. Their no 10, 7 & 3 especially were outstanding. The only time they looked vulnerable was when we put a couple of decent deliveries into the box which McCoombe and I think Chappell should have put away. But it would have been a travesty if Kidderminster hadn't won that the way they dominated and controlled the middle of the park. Grim watching. That second sentence could have been written about 99% of the games this year. |
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Post by bluesince72 on Oct 14, 2017 17:46:32 GMT
MB, in just a few short weeks has identified the elephant in the room, the reason this club has struggled since promotion, the reason why the gates have fallen by around 1000 per match, which must have cost the club many hundreds of thousands of pounds. To those arguing that we cannot afford to be a full time club, surely it must now be blindingly obvious that we cannot afford not to be. Do we want a football club looking to honor it's proud history with ambitions for a return to FL status, or a poor man's hobby club heading for the 6th tier?
It was the timid, short-sighted, self defeating, unambitious, ruinous decision by the board in place at the time, and endorsed by all the following boards, to stay part time. This mismanagement has reached its predictable conclusion, a team, half of which are not National league standard and not fit to wear the shirt.
At the recent CFU meeting it was revealed that the current board have finally understood the stupidity of being part time in this league; I just hope it’s not too late. Totally support MB's statement, and any player that fails to turn up for full time training should be shown the door ASAP.
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Post by billyw on Oct 14, 2017 17:49:56 GMT
A genuine question - does anyone know whether Kiddy are full-time or part-time?.
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Post by Charfield Blue on Oct 14, 2017 17:50:38 GMT
Wow. That's my first time watching the blues this season. We were totally outclassed. Kidderminster just had far too much ability, pace, fitness, movement and structure for us to compete. The difference was stark. I don't know where we go from here? I would happily pay to watch Kidderminster the way they play. Their no 10, 7 & 3 especially were outstanding. The only time they looked vulnerable was when we put a couple of decent deliveries into the box which McCoombe and I think Chappell should have put away. But it would have been a travesty if Kidderminster hadn't won that the way they dominated and controlled the middle of the park. Grim watching. That second sentence could have been written about 99% of the games this year. If that's the case Billy then I have nothing but admiration for those travelling the length and breadth of the country to watch it. It's heartbreaking to side your team outclassed like that. |
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Post by bonecrusher on Oct 14, 2017 17:51:06 GMT
Wow. That's my first time watching the blues this season. We were totally outclassed. Kidderminster just had far too much ability, pace, fitness, movement and structure for us to compete. The difference was stark. I don't know where we go from here? I would happily pay to watch Kidderminster the way they play. Their no 10, 7 & 3 especially were outstanding. The only time they looked vulnerable was when we put a couple of decent deliveries into the box which McCoombe and I think Chappell should have put away. But it would have been a travesty if Kidderminster hadn't won that the way they dominated and controlled the middle of the park. Grim watching. That second sentence could have been written about 99% of the games this year. Yep. We have a tendency to make teams look like Barcelona. No offence to Kiddie but I suspect they aren't that good really. |
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Post by bonecrusher on Oct 14, 2017 17:52:05 GMT
A genuine question - does anyone know whether Kiddy are full-time or part-time?. A local bobby outside the ground was telling me that they are full time but can ill afford it. |
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Post by billyw on Oct 14, 2017 17:54:39 GMT
Full time club from Monday if players don't like it they can leave - Marcus Bignot Perhaps someone needs to explain to Marcus about Constructive Dismissal. You can't make a player train 5 days a week when he is contracted to 3 days, without there being consequences. |
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Post by Lobster on Oct 14, 2017 17:58:20 GMT
Reality check for anyone who thinks we're automatically safe now MB is in charge. For what it's worth I think he will ten us around but at the minute were a mess. I'm not sure anyone's under any illusions that we're safe at all. What's more worrying that it's a reality check of what next season could be like! |
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Post by sqzl on Oct 14, 2017 18:08:50 GMT
A genuine question - does anyone know whether Kiddy are full-time or part-time?. Full |
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Post by sqzl on Oct 14, 2017 18:09:57 GMT
Curious about MB saying full time training start's from Monday. One question - if player's are on part time contract's where's the cash coming from for full time training? What am i missing here? Same money mate, just increased expectations. |
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Post by sqzl on Oct 14, 2017 18:12:56 GMT
Reality check for anyone who thinks we're automatically safe now MB is in charge. For what it's worth I think he will keep us around but at the minute were a mess. I'm not sure anyone's under any illusions that we're safe at all. What's more worrying that it's a reality check of what next season could be like! I think most of us realise the size of task, many of us gutted about today too as the dream for non league fans is to have the opportunity to play the big boys. The thread about expected league position does suggest a few have heads in the clouds though. I'm quietly confident MB is our man, just hope players show a response in the league now, we deserve it. |
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Post by bluesince72 on Oct 14, 2017 18:14:18 GMT
Full time club from Monday if players don't like it they can leave - Marcus Bignot Perhaps someone needs to explain to Marcus about Constructive Dismissal. You can't make a player train 5 days a week when he is contracted to 3 days, without there being consequences. Constructive dismissal? If any of us were as bad at our jobs as some of the players we have, the result would be dismissal for incompetence and sub standard work - full stop! Like the club itself, the players must decide whether they are genuine professionals, or just being paid to pursue a hobby? This insidious small time hobby club mentality must be banished from the football club, or we might as well just give up! |
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Post by shango on Oct 14, 2017 18:15:32 GMT
Curious about MB saying full time training start's from Monday. One question - if player's are on part time contract's where's the cash coming from for full time training? What am i missing here? Same money mate, just increased expectations. Nice one. So MB really is throwing down the gauntlet to see who really give's a shat? |
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Post by Charfield Blue on Oct 14, 2017 18:24:41 GMT
I'm trying to find a positive so here goes - LRT was NOT as bad as the rest of them.
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