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Post by Matt on Nov 18, 2020 9:29:21 GMT
In addition, i worry that we are going to lose out in a big way with the local kids, not just in Chester but in the local areas including Deeside. 'Deadpool' buying them will be seen as a massive draw. Pre lockdown it seems we struggled anyway to consistently get younger supporters in, well you can bet your bottom dollar it'll be even harder now. This isnt just someone with money taking over our rivals. This is a pair of individuals one being a global megastar. How the hell do we compete with that? Calm down, we just need to make do with our budget being 1 freddo. In reality since reforming despite the 2nd season averaging 2,700 our crowd has dwindled between 1750 - 2050, we could even get promoted to League Two have an FA Cup draw in the 3rd round i'd guarantee after we'd only average 2,500. We have to make do with what we've got, if we have a Football Club after this pandemic is over I would consider that a huge achievement. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 10:49:06 GMT
In addition, i worry that we are going to lose out in a big way with the local kids, not just in Chester but in the local areas including Deeside. 'Deadpool' buying them will be seen as a massive draw. Pre lockdown it seems we struggled anyway to consistently get younger supporters in, well you can bet your bottom dollar it'll be even harder now. This isnt just someone with money taking over our rivals. This is a pair of individuals one being a global megastar. How the hell do we compete with that? Most kids who grow up in Chester and Deeside first and foremost support Liverpool, United, Everton etc. I think you’re right, the dead pool situation may begin to have a slight dent in this and is certainly a draw for younger fans. Our issue is the Prem clubs being so near and also not quite as visible as some non league / league 2 who are bang smack in the middle of towns, with us being tucked away on the cycle path. Think our realistic goal would be consistent attendances of 2,500 say....that would at least create a decent atmos ! |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 18, 2020 11:17:37 GMT
Deadpool is a category 15, so when we talk about “youngsters” and kids as potential fans how old are we talking?
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Post by lincolnexile on Nov 18, 2020 11:51:52 GMT
Deadpool is a category 15, so when we talk about “youngsters” and kids as potential fans how old are we talking? Do you seriously think that just because it says 15 on the box that no one under 15 has seen a popular Marvel film. I wouldn’t mind betting that most 10 year olds have seen the film and surely that’s the sort of age clubs need to target to give a strong fan base. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Nov 18, 2020 12:22:10 GMT
Too much is being made of this whole deadpool thing. They might appear in a few episodes of the Netflix documentary, but in reality they won't be in Wrexham very much if at all, and once they finally do go there they will realise what a complete shithole it is...
To suggest that all the kids in the local area will suddenly become wrexham fans is laughable... and if they don't get out of the national league at the first or second attempt they will be looking to sell to the highest bidder...
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 18, 2020 12:42:45 GMT
Deadpool is a category 15, so when we talk about “youngsters” and kids as potential fans how old are we talking? Do you seriously think that just because it says 15 on the box that no one under 15 has seen a popular Marvel film. I wouldn’t mind betting that most 10 year olds have seen the film and surely that’s the sort of age clubs need to target to give a strong fan base. Most ten year olds have seen its “bloody violence”, sex references and strong language? It was rated 15 and was STILL the most complained about film in 2016 according to BBFC figures. I blame the parents... |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 18, 2020 13:09:09 GMT
Think we need to remember that what's happened at Wrexham is blind luck. There was no strategy behind it, and it's not like they're doing something we're not that's made it happen. It's like when Apollo Creed decides to fight an unknown Rocky Balboa just because he likes his name.
If people seriously want something similar to happen us, why not be proactive about it? Start tweeting at Hugh Jackman, as the Metro even ran an article about. Write to his agent and sell the club. Serious suggestion. If 500 of us did it, he would probably at least respond!
If someone comes in with a serious offer for the club, it's right that it should be put to a CFU members vote, and although I would almost certainly vote against it, I would accept the majority decision. Since that hasn't happened though, I agree with what Si said on the main forum that the best thing to do is get 100% behind our supporter-owned model and try and make it work, whether it's what you want or not. The club is actually a lot more investible if there are clear signs of a united, hardworking fanbase who don't just expect a white knight to turn up on their doorstep and instead work to achieve a sustainable club off their own bat.
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 18, 2020 13:09:49 GMT
Too much is being made of this whole deadpool thing. They might appear in a few episodes of the Netflix documentary, but in reality they won't be in Wrexham very much if at all, and once they finally do go there they will realise what a complete shithole it is... To suggest that all the kids in the local area will suddenly become wrexham fans is laughable... and if they don't get out of the national league at the first or second attempt they will be looking to sell to the highest bidder... I imagine the show will look like Alaskan Bush People but with added football. |
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Post by lincolnexile on Nov 18, 2020 14:08:32 GMT
Do you seriously think that just because it says 15 on the box that no one under 15 has seen a popular Marvel film. I wouldn’t mind betting that most 10 year olds have seen the film and surely that’s the sort of age clubs need to target to give a strong fan base. Most ten year olds have seen its “bloody violence”, sex references and strong language? It was rated 15 and was STILL the most complained about film in 2016 according to BBFC figures. I blame the parents... Is that all parents or just the Tory voting ones? Sorry I couldn't resist it  . |
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Post by utb on Nov 18, 2020 15:58:53 GMT
Think we need to remember that what's happened at Wrexham is blind luck. There was no strategy behind it, and it's not like they're doing something we're not that's made it happen. It's like when Apollo Creed decides to fight an unknown Rocky Balboa just because he likes his name. If people seriously want something similar to happen us, why not be proactive about it? Start tweeting at Hugh Jackman, as the Metro even ran an article about. Write to his agent and sell the club. Serious suggestion. If 500 of us did it, he would probably at least respond! If someone comes in with a serious offer for the club, it's right that it should be put to a CFU members vote, and although I would almost certainly vote against it, I would accept the majority decision. Since that hasn't happened though, I agree with what Si said on the main forum that the best thing to do is get 100% behind our supporter-owned model and try and make it work, whether it's what you want or not. The club is actually a lot more investible if there are clear signs of a united, hardworking fanbase who don't just expect a white knight to turn up on their doorstep and instead work to achieve a sustainable club off their own bat. It's funny you say that because the sole positive of this takeover happening from a Chester point of view is that it may cast a few eyes our way with us being the 'fierce local rivals' of the club owned by Ryan Reynolds. It's a massive long shot, but you never know if there could be someone very rich and/or famous out there who sees this story and fancies going head to head with Mr Reynolds. In terms of money, the two million they are putting into the club is pocket change. They make that back nice and quickly with shirt sales and new sponsorship deals. Just look at that trailer Reynolds did for Wrexham's shirt sponsor! Currently 4.7 million views on Twitter alone with 17k RTs and 77 likes. Now imagine how much money big businesses would pay for something similar for their company?! Then you have any future documentary. If Netflix was to commission a documentary on the club with Reynolds front and centre, they'd be looking at a six figure fee per episode easily. Then if they sort themselves out on the pitch, they have lots of fans willing to come out of the woodwork and buy season tickets once again. Make no mistake, money will be flying into Wrexham's coffers as a result of this. I feel like because Chester's fanbase skews old and lots of older fans out there perhaps don't have the knowledge of modern day social media, many don't realise just how big of a deal those numbers are and how big of a deal this takeover is. From a Chester perspective obviously it's a disaster. As said above, any kids/families in the area who want to go and watch live football but can't afford the bright lights of the Premier League are now more than likely to make the trip to the Racecourse Ground. As for the rivalry between the two clubs, it'll fade away gradually as I suspect we may have seen the last Cross Border Derby for many many years. Once Wrexham go up (and they will eventually), they won't come back down. |
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Post by inthestand on Nov 18, 2020 16:53:53 GMT
Im naturally jealous of their new owners but be Interesting how staffing issues will be sorted, personally if I was a volunteer I'd certainly think twice now the club is owned by millionaires to give my time up for free. A ex liverpool CEO wont be cheap if he takes charge, granted they may make money from a documentary but all costs of the club will go up because people will see pound signs. It's not a money making business a football club, majority of teams in the premiership have losses so alot depends on this netflix documentary and promotion with to go with it looks like they are really going to get the fans on their side, supporters posted a wrexham disabled fan trying to raise £6000 for a hoist..Rob McElhanney....donated the full amount, i really think money ain't going to be any object at all, over 800 wrexham shirts sold in two days around the world, and their sponsors Ivor Williams trailers are having to get more staff in for their phone lines, and to be fair, these two haven't got started yet..the biggest thing for me is they are going to appeal to the young fan wanting to watch quality football, and those fans will stay for life...lots of yanks are buying clubs at the moment, we really need to put ourselves out there ...you never know... |
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Post by jb on Nov 18, 2020 17:57:57 GMT
In addition, i worry that we are going to lose out in a big way with the local kids, not just in Chester but in the local areas including Deeside. 'Deadpool' buying them will be seen as a massive draw. Pre lockdown it seems we struggled anyway to consistently get younger supporters in, well you can bet your bottom dollar it'll be even harder now. This isnt just someone with money taking over our rivals. This is a pair of individuals one being a global megastar. How the hell do we compete with that? Good luck to Reynolds in trying to get into Wales at this moment in time. Easier to get into North Korea. Although saying that PJ and Duncan and Liz McDonald are running around Abergele so he might have a chance of getting down to the Racecourse. |
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Post by Al on Nov 18, 2020 18:13:28 GMT
Think we need to remember that what's happened at Wrexham is blind luck. There was no strategy behind it, and it's not like they're doing something we're not that's made it happen. It's like when Apollo Creed decides to fight an unknown Rocky Balboa just because he likes his name. If people seriously want something similar to happen us, why not be proactive about it? Start tweeting at Hugh Jackman, as the Metro even ran an article about. Write to his agent and sell the club. Serious suggestion. If 500 of us did it, he would probably at least respond! If someone comes in with a serious offer for the club, it's right that it should be put to a CFU members vote, and although I would almost certainly vote against it, I would accept the majority decision. Since that hasn't happened though, I agree with what Si said on the main forum that the best thing to do is get 100% behind our supporter-owned model and try and make it work, whether it's what you want or not. The club is actually a lot more investible if there are clear signs of a united, hardworking fanbase who don't just expect a white knight to turn up on their doorstep and instead work to achieve a sustainable club off their own bat. It's funny you say that because the sole positive of this takeover happening from a Chester point of view is that it may cast a few eyes our way with us being the 'fierce local rivals' of the club owned by Ryan Reynolds. It's a massive long shot, but you never know if there could be someone very rich and/or famous out there who sees this story and fancies going head to head with Mr Reynolds. In terms of money, the two million they are putting into the club is pocket change. They make that back nice and quickly with shirt sales and new sponsorship deals. Just look at that trailer Reynolds did for Wrexham's shirt sponsor! Currently 4.7 million views on Twitter alone with 17k RTs and 77 likes. Now imagine how much money big businesses would pay for something similar for their company?! Then you have any future documentary. If Netflix was to commission a documentary on the club with Reynolds front and centre, they'd be looking at a six figure fee per episode easily. Then if they sort themselves out on the pitch, they have lots of fans willing to come out of the woodwork and buy season tickets once again. Make no mistake, money will be flying into Wrexham's coffers as a result of this. I feel like because Chester's fanbase skews old and lots of older fans out there perhaps don't have the knowledge of modern day social media, many don't realise just how big of a deal those numbers are and how big of a deal this takeover is. From a Chester perspective obviously it's a disaster. As said above, any kids/families in the area who want to go and watch live football but can't afford the bright lights of the Premier League are now more than likely to make the trip to the Racecourse Ground. As for the rivalry between the two clubs, it'll fade away gradually as I suspect we may have seen the last Cross Border Derby for many many years. Once Wrexham go up (and they will eventually), they won't come back down. Exactly this. The international exposure they've had in the last few days has been incredible. One tweet from both advertising the shirt sponsor going interstellar im terms of exposure. Its incredible for them commercially, business will be throwing themselves at the club to get anywhere near that level of exposure on social media. Theres no way we can compete with that |
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Post by Matt on Nov 18, 2020 18:29:05 GMT
It's funny you say that because the sole positive of this takeover happening from a Chester point of view is that it may cast a few eyes our way with us being the 'fierce local rivals' of the club owned by Ryan Reynolds. It's a massive long shot, but you never know if there could be someone very rich and/or famous out there who sees this story and fancies going head to head with Mr Reynolds. In terms of money, the two million they are putting into the club is pocket change. They make that back nice and quickly with shirt sales and new sponsorship deals. Just look at that trailer Reynolds did for Wrexham's shirt sponsor! Currently 4.7 million views on Twitter alone with 17k RTs and 77 likes. Now imagine how much money big businesses would pay for something similar for their company?! Then you have any future documentary. If Netflix was to commission a documentary on the club with Reynolds front and centre, they'd be looking at a six figure fee per episode easily. Then if they sort themselves out on the pitch, they have lots of fans willing to come out of the woodwork and buy season tickets once again. Make no mistake, money will be flying into Wrexham's coffers as a result of this. I feel like because Chester's fanbase skews old and lots of older fans out there perhaps don't have the knowledge of modern day social media, many don't realise just how big of a deal those numbers are and how big of a deal this takeover is. From a Chester perspective obviously it's a disaster. As said above, any kids/families in the area who want to go and watch live football but can't afford the bright lights of the Premier League are now more than likely to make the trip to the Racecourse Ground. As for the rivalry between the two clubs, it'll fade away gradually as I suspect we may have seen the last Cross Border Derby for many many years. Once Wrexham go up (and they will eventually), they won't come back down. Exactly this. The international exposure they've had in the last few days has been incredible. One tweet from both advertising the shirt sponsor going interstellar im terms of exposure. Its incredible for them commercially, business will be throwing themselves at the club to get anywhere near that level of exposure on social media. Theres no way we can compete with that So we just pack up and go home? We’re not competing with Wrexham, the last time we were near a level playing field was 2015 but sadly mismanagement took us a different route, We’re still recovering, were in a better position but this pandemic hasn’t helped. At this moment we can’t even compete with Gloucester, Fylde or Spennymoor. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 18, 2020 18:34:01 GMT
It's funny you say that because the sole positive of this takeover happening from a Chester point of view is that it may cast a few eyes our way with us being the 'fierce local rivals' of the club owned by Ryan Reynolds. It's a massive long shot, but you never know if there could be someone very rich and/or famous out there who sees this story and fancies going head to head with Mr Reynolds. In terms of money, the two million they are putting into the club is pocket change. They make that back nice and quickly with shirt sales and new sponsorship deals. Just look at that trailer Reynolds did for Wrexham's shirt sponsor! Currently 4.7 million views on Twitter alone with 17k RTs and 77 likes. Now imagine how much money big businesses would pay for something similar for their company?! Then you have any future documentary. If Netflix was to commission a documentary on the club with Reynolds front and centre, they'd be looking at a six figure fee per episode easily. Then if they sort themselves out on the pitch, they have lots of fans willing to come out of the woodwork and buy season tickets once again. Make no mistake, money will be flying into Wrexham's coffers as a result of this. I feel like because Chester's fanbase skews old and lots of older fans out there perhaps don't have the knowledge of modern day social media, many don't realise just how big of a deal those numbers are and how big of a deal this takeover is. From a Chester perspective obviously it's a disaster. As said above, any kids/families in the area who want to go and watch live football but can't afford the bright lights of the Premier League are now more than likely to make the trip to the Racecourse Ground. As for the rivalry between the two clubs, it'll fade away gradually as I suspect we may have seen the last Cross Border Derby for many many years. Once Wrexham go up (and they will eventually), they won't come back down. Exactly this. The international exposure they've had in the last few days has been incredible. One tweet from both advertising the shirt sponsor going interstellar im terms of exposure. Its incredible for them commercially, business will be throwing themselves at the club to get anywhere near that level of exposure on social media. Theres no way we can compete with that What’s your plan then? |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Nov 18, 2020 19:03:17 GMT
Im naturally jealous of their new owners but be Interesting how staffing issues will be sorted, personally if I was a volunteer I'd certainly think twice now the club is owned by millionaires to give my time up for free. A ex liverpool CEO wont be cheap if he takes charge, granted they may make money from a documentary but all costs of the club will go up because people will see pound signs. It's not a money making business a football club, majority of teams in the premiership have losses so alot depends on this netflix documentary and promotion with to go with it looks like they are really going to get the fans on their side, supporters posted a wrexham disabled fan trying to raise £6000 for a hoist..Rob McElhanney....donated the full amount,i really think money ain't going to be any object at all, over 800 wrexham shirts sold in two days around the world, and their sponsors Ivor Williams trailers are having to get more staff in for their phone lines, and to be fair, these two haven't got started yet..the biggest thing for me is they are going to appeal to the young fan wanting to watch quality football, and those fans will stay for life...lots of yanks are buying clubs at the moment, we really need to put ourselves out there ...you never know... That has just been on the news on a national radio station they are in for a lot of exposure |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 18, 2020 19:09:16 GMT
Im naturally jealous of their new owners but be Interesting how staffing issues will be sorted, personally if I was a volunteer I'd certainly think twice now the club is owned by millionaires to give my time up for free. A ex liverpool CEO wont be cheap if he takes charge, granted they may make money from a documentary but all costs of the club will go up because people will see pound signs. It's not a money making business a football club, majority of teams in the premiership have losses so alot depends on this netflix documentary and promotion with to go with it looks like they are really going to get the fans on their side, supporters posted a wrexham disabled fan trying to raise £6000 for a hoist..Rob McElhanney....donated the full amount, i really think money ain't going to be any object at all, over 800 wrexham shirts sold in two days around the world, and their sponsors Ivor Williams trailers are having to get more staff in for their phone lines, and to be fair, these two haven't got started yet..the biggest thing for me is they are going to appeal to the young fan wanting to watch quality football, and those fans will stay for life...lots of yanks are buying clubs at the moment, we really need to put ourselves out there ...you never know... 1. They won’t watch quality football at Wrexham pal. 2. What do you mean “put ourselves out there”? If someone wants to takeover the club they know where to contact us. |
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Post by Al on Nov 18, 2020 20:13:48 GMT
Exactly this. The international exposure they've had in the last few days has been incredible. One tweet from both advertising the shirt sponsor going interstellar im terms of exposure. Its incredible for them commercially, business will be throwing themselves at the club to get anywhere near that level of exposure on social media. Theres no way we can compete with that What’s your plan then? I dont have a plan. Do you? |
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Post by ivawhopper on Nov 18, 2020 20:37:11 GMT
looks like they are really going to get the fans on their side, supporters posted a wrexham disabled fan trying to raise £6000 for a hoist..Rob McElhanney....donated the full amount,i really think money ain't going to be any object at all, over 800 wrexham shirts sold in two days around the world, and their sponsors Ivor Williams trailers are having to get more staff in for their phone lines, and to be fair, these two haven't got started yet..the biggest thing for me is they are going to appeal to the young fan wanting to watch quality football, and those fans will stay for life...lots of yanks are buying clubs at the moment, we really need to put ourselves out there ...you never know... That has just been on the news on a national radio station they are in for a lot of exposure I hate the goaty boys more than most, but fair play that’s a jolly decent gesture by the man. |
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Post by thedarkorder on Nov 18, 2020 21:01:51 GMT
Can't help but feel a bit of jealousy, but, the grass isn't always greener.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 18, 2020 21:20:15 GMT
Looking at the BBC reports on these stories, you do see quite a few comments from apparent neutrals along the lines of "I can't see this ending well". I don't think it's purely a jealousy thing that some of us are questioning it.
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Post by inthestand on Nov 18, 2020 23:38:35 GMT
looks like they are really going to get the fans on their side, supporters posted a wrexham disabled fan trying to raise £6000 for a hoist..Rob McElhanney....donated the full amount, i really think money ain't going to be any object at all, over 800 wrexham shirts sold in two days around the world, and their sponsors Ivor Williams trailers are having to get more staff in for their phone lines, and to be fair, these two haven't got started yet..the biggest thing for me is they are going to appeal to the young fan wanting to watch quality football, and those fans will stay for life...lots of yanks are buying clubs at the moment, we really need to put ourselves out there ...you never know... 1. They won’t watch quality football at Wrexham pal. 2. What do you mean “put ourselves out there”? If someone wants to takeover the club they know where to contact us. |
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Post by Churton Blue on Nov 19, 2020 8:53:32 GMT
Im naturally jealous of their new owners but be Interesting how staffing issues will be sorted, personally if I was a volunteer I'd certainly think twice now the club is owned by millionaires to give my time up for free. A ex liverpool CEO wont be cheap if he takes charge, granted they may make money from a documentary but all costs of the club will go up because people will see pound signs. It's not a money making business a football club, majority of teams in the premiership have losses so alot depends on this netflix documentary and promotion with to go with it looks like they are really going to get the fans on their side, supporters posted a wrexham disabled fan trying to raise £6000 for a hoist..Rob McElhanney....donated the full amount, i really think money ain't going to be any object at all, over 800 wrexham shirts sold in two days around the world, and their sponsors Ivor Williams trailers are having to get more staff in for their phone lines, and to be fair, these two haven't got started yet..the biggest thing for me is they are going to appeal to the young fan wanting to watch quality football, and those fans will stay for life...l ots of yanks are buying clubs at the moment, we really need to put ourselves out there ...you never know... Two Americans bought Chester City over 20 years ago. |
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Post by Churton Blue on Nov 19, 2020 8:57:20 GMT
Deadpool a role model for kids to follow ? This extract taken from the Guardian...
Deadpool, the horribly violent, disgustingly crude and, for many people, very funny superhero romp, was the film which last year generated the most complaints to Britain’s film censors.
The 2016 annual report of the British Board of Film Classification reveals that the Marvel movie received 51 complaints. That was followed by Suicide Squad with 30 and Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children with 20.
For Deadpool, it was the bloody violence, strong language and sex references that generated the complaints.
The report, published on Tuesday, defended the 15 certificate given to the movie, which stars Ryan Reynolds as a puerile mercenary with super healing powers.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Nov 19, 2020 9:32:54 GMT
Deadpool a role model for kids to follow ? This extract taken from the Guardian... Deadpool, the horribly violent, disgustingly crude and, for many people, very funny superhero romp, was the film which last year generated the most complaints to Britain’s film censors. The 2016 annual report of the British Board of Film Classification reveals that the Marvel movie received 51 complaints. That was followed by Suicide Squad with 30 and Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children with 20. For Deadpool, it was the bloody violence, strong language and sex references that generated the complaints. The report, published on Tuesday, defended the 15 certificate given to the movie, which stars Ryan Reynolds as a puerile mercenary with super healing powers. I'm sure the 51 people who complained about deadpool will be devastated that they have the potential to poison football fans minds now too... |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 19, 2020 10:19:08 GMT
Deadpool a role model for kids to follow ? This extract taken from the Guardian... Deadpool, the horribly violent, disgustingly crude and, for many people, very funny superhero romp, was the film which last year generated the most complaints to Britain’s film censors. The 2016 annual report of the British Board of Film Classification reveals that the Marvel movie received 51 complaints. That was followed by Suicide Squad with 30 and Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children with 20. For Deadpool, it was the bloody violence, strong language and sex references that generated the complaints. The report, published on Tuesday, defended the 15 certificate given to the movie, which stars Ryan Reynolds as a puerile mercenary with super healing powers. I'm sure the 51 people who complained about deadpool will be devastated that they have the potential to poison football fans minds now too... Was thinking the same. 51 people complaining about a film, out of the millions who must have seen it, is barely even a story. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Nov 19, 2020 10:39:37 GMT
Think the main point is the idea that school children would be hooked based on a film they would be highly unlikely to have watched (a category 15 with bloody gory violence, foul language and sexual references) - silly statement.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 10:52:37 GMT
There were 51 complaints, Deadpool reviews,etc. Some straws being clutched here lads.
We’ve just secured our short-medium term survival in the most uncertain times in living memory.
Clubs league 1 and below don’t know where they’ll be in a few months and you’re all talking years down the line.
You would all have snatched their hands off if it was the other way around.
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Post by Churton Blue on Nov 19, 2020 11:05:47 GMT
Think the main point is the idea that school children would be hooked based on a film they would be highly unlikely to have watched (a category 15 with bloody gory violence, foul language and sexual references) - silly statement. Exactly. Kids start supporting a team between the ages of 5 and 11 in the vast majority of cases. If they are not hooked by then they never will be |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 19, 2020 11:07:45 GMT
There were 51 complaints, Deadpool reviews,etc. Some straws being clutched here lads. We’ve just secured our short-medium term survival in the most uncertain times in living memory. Clubs league 1 and below don’t know where they’ll be in a few months and you’re all talking years down the line. You would all have snatched their hands off if it was the other way around. Hand on heart, no I wouldn't have personally. But I hope you're right that it secures your survival at least. |
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