|
|
Post by rainfordblue on May 4, 2017 15:36:49 GMT
6 month contracts for a club with a small budget are fine - gives the club some scope to offload if a player is struggling through long-term injury. Harsh maybe, but a necessity when trying to compete with clubs spending 4/5 times as much.
Small budget = small squad. The potential to release some cash in January gives the manager the ability to strengthen.
|
|
|
|
Post by sqzl on May 4, 2017 15:47:24 GMT
6 month contracts for a club with a small budget are fine - gives the club some scope to offload if a player is struggling through long-term injury. Harsh maybe, but a necessity when trying to compete with clubs spending 4/5 times as much. Small budget = small squad. The potential to release some cash in January gives the manager the ability to strengthen. Each to their own, i just think January is the worst time to do any business. I've found it interesting though seeing everyones difference of opinion regarding contracts, certainly a bit 50/50 on here |
|
|
|
Post by Superman on May 4, 2017 16:05:01 GMT
Reasonably happy with changes to management structure and recruitment so far, would have gone for either Mahon or Chappell but not both, plenty of potential signed up, now need some experienced solid grafters and no nonsense defenders. Seem short on vocal leaders, not sure Shaw is that.
|
|
|
|
Post by iandychesterfc on May 4, 2017 16:05:51 GMT
It makes sense to get some fringe players who he knows and can trust. These aren't first XI signings, those are to come, you're not going to sign these straight away as if they are any good they'll have a few clubs in for them and will be mulling over the best deal.
remember thats not just money at this level, there's ambition, location, likely starting berth etc etc.
|
|
|
|
Post by tarvinblue on May 4, 2017 16:37:39 GMT
What's with all these 6 month deals? Are we planning to just give up after January again? On top of releasing top earners, promoting youth team players (whilst very deserved and what we should be doing as a club anyway) and streamlining the coaching staff - all points to one thing. Lack of funds. By January we will most likely be in 24th position and out of all cup competitions. At least once JM is sacked by then, the new man will be able to offload players and bring some new ones in for the Great Escape. Seriously, this recruitment is less than inspiring, not surprising and smacks of, despite what some happy clappers post, a serious reduction in budget. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 16:51:29 GMT
Genuinely think this is a 50/50 good/bad approach.
Suspect it's because we can't just magic up money if we need to make "emergency repairs" in December/January - unless of course we get a decent Cup run (possible I suppose) and/or strike lucky with an outgoing transfer (unlikely)
|
|
|
|
Post by Always a blue on May 4, 2017 16:51:34 GMT
On top of releasing top earners, promoting youth team players (whilst very deserved and what we should be doing as a club anyway) and streamlining the coaching staff - all points to one thing. Lack of funds. By January we will most likely be in 24th position and out of all cup competitions. At least once JM is sacked by then, the new man will be able to offload players and bring some new ones in for the Great Escape. Seriously, this recruitment is less than inspiring, not surprising and smacks of, despite what some happy clappers post, a serious reduction in budget. Serious question when was the last time you were happy watching Chester ? |
|
|
|
Post by St Oswald on May 4, 2017 17:01:27 GMT
1974 when we got to the league cup final.We used to go in the Watergate and walk down for those evening fixtures.Nothing could match the atmosphere for those big games and we never thought we'd lose.
|
|
|
|
Post by lachelane on May 4, 2017 17:17:36 GMT
By January we will most likely be in 24th position and out of all cup competitions. At least once JM is sacked by then, the new man will be able to offload players and bring some new ones in for the Great Escape. Seriously, this recruitment is less than inspiring, not surprising and smacks of, despite what some happy clappers post, a serious reduction in budget. Serious question when was the last time you were happy watching Chester ? Judging by his posts and attitude I would venture to say in the SV days. |
|
|
|
Post by chesterblue1970 on May 4, 2017 17:35:24 GMT
according to the daily mail crystal palace are favs to win the race for sam hughes
|
|
|
|
Post by CestrianStatto on May 4, 2017 17:51:06 GMT
Looks like the moaners have returned then. Two decent squad players come back and so do you! These past two re-signings and what I anticipate is the next few will be mostly for squad depth, new signings will hopefully be first team players! Keep the faith. Wouldn't class myself as a moaner, am just being honest and saying things the way I see things at the moment, yes the last few months of last season dragged me down and maybe turned my glass to half empty rather than half full. Let's carry this conversation on again if the likes of George and Joyce re-sign. How many "squad" players can we afford to carry? I hope your right in terms of further players being first teamers because we need some hope for next season plus the boost for season tickets is an absolute must. Question you have to ask yourself is how many other midfields in the Vanarama National does Wade Joyce, Liam Davies, Matty Waters or Jordan Chappell get into? Correct the answer is zero! We are in trouble no doubt about it! |
|
|
|
Post by A on May 4, 2017 17:57:54 GMT
It would appear we're shopping at B&M . . . a long way from Waitrose. A squad to survive assembled on the cheap.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 18:04:55 GMT
Wouldn't class myself as a moaner, am just being honest and saying things the way I see things at the moment, yes the last few months of last season dragged me down and maybe turned my glass to half empty rather than half full. Let's carry this conversation on again if the likes of George and Joyce re-sign. How many "squad" players can we afford to carry? I hope your right in terms of further players being first teamers because we need some hope for next season plus the boost for season tickets is an absolute must. Question you have to ask yourself is how many other midfields in the Vanarama National does Wade Joyce, Liam Davies, Matty Waters or Jordan Chappell get into? Correct the answer is zero! We are in trouble no doubt about it! Don't really understand why Waters is mentioned here. Think he has potential to have a breakout year much like Sam did |
|
|
|
Post by Mr BlueSky on May 4, 2017 18:11:52 GMT
Genuinely think this is a 50/50 good/bad approach. Suspect it's because we can't just magic up money if we need to make "emergency repairs" in December/January - unless of course we get a decent Cup run (possible I suppose) and/or strike lucky with an outgoing transfer (unlikely) Have you ever considered lower league football might not be for you ? What a joyless individual you are. |
|
|
|
Post by tarvinbluetit on May 4, 2017 18:18:36 GMT
Going by all tarvinblues posts the club are in severe crisis and about to go out of business
|
|
|
|
Post by dmcnally on May 4, 2017 18:19:26 GMT
Completely agree, as stated in my post above. Wait until the announcement about Will Marsh re signing filters through, that will raise many questions, and really put the cat amongst the pigeons!!. Marsh is not signing. |
|
|
|
Post by dmcnally on May 4, 2017 18:19:55 GMT
What's with all these 6 month deals? Are we planning to just give up after January again? On top of releasing top earners, promoting youth team players (whilst very deserved and what we should be doing as a club anyway) and streamlining the coaching staff - all points to one thing. Lack of funds. Even though the budget is being increased? |
|
|
|
Post by MPW on May 4, 2017 18:22:01 GMT
I was happy with the signings on Tuesday, but have to admit that I'm concerned with the signings of Joyce, Horwood, Bell and even more so if George, Marsh and Dawson are kept on!
With Jon saying he wanted smaller squad, it wouldn't leave much room for many more signings.
Let's hope we get a few inspired NEW signings!
|
|
|
|
Post by Corner Flag on May 4, 2017 18:40:18 GMT
By January we will most likely be in 24th position and out of all cup competitions. At least once JM is sacked by then, the new man will be able to offload players and bring some new ones in for the Great Escape. Seriously, this recruitment is less than inspiring, not surprising and smacks of, despite what some happy clappers post, a serious reduction in budget. Serious question when was the last time you were happy watching Chester ? The player you just signed on loan has only played 22 games and scored 2 goals since 2014 and he is your 2nd striker ? |
|
|
|
Post by dmcnally on May 4, 2017 18:49:38 GMT
Serious question when was the last time you were happy watching Chester ? The player you just signed on loan has only played 22 games and scored 2 goals since 2014 and he is your 2nd striker ? 1. White 2. Akintunde 3. Bell, as a back up option to add some height late on. 2 goals in 9 games for Gateshead. Most likely a new striker to come in above Bell in the pecking order. ?? The season only finished a few days ago but judging by your comment I assume we are now ready for next season will the full squad signed up? |
|
|
|
Post by lachelane on May 4, 2017 18:50:57 GMT
Serious question when was the last time you were happy watching Chester ? The player you just signed on loan has only played 22 games and scored 2 goals since 2014 and he is your 2nd striker ? And you lot let your young captain go, not many good decisions in either camp at the moment. |
|
|
|
Post by dmcnally on May 4, 2017 18:51:49 GMT
I was happy with the signings on Tuesday, but have to admit that I'm concerned with the signings of Joyce, Horwood, Bell and even more so if George, Marsh and Dawson are kept on! With Jon saying he wanted smaller squad, it wouldn't leave much room for many more signings. Let's hope we get a few inspired NEW signings! Dawson is a good player. Marsh is not staying. Their are very few free agents available at the moment as the bulk will be released when the transfer window opens at the start of June, this is when we will see some more movement and new signings imo. Good to get some established players signed up at the moment though. Jon knows our current players have many will provide good back up. |
|
|
|
Post by dmcnally on May 4, 2017 18:52:33 GMT
Serious question when was the last time you were happy watching Chester ? The player you just signed on loan has only played 22 games and scored 2 goals since 2014 and he is your 2nd striker ? Do you even have 2 strikers? |
|
|
|
Post by Reality Check Blue on May 4, 2017 18:57:25 GMT
The size of the playing budget will depend on what we get for Hughes and Alabi. This makes it difficult if these two, as expected, go to tribunals. There will be a worst case scenario and a best case scenario so it makes sense to me to do six month deals and sign up cheap squad players as we need a decent first 11 who will be more expensive and best signed when we have a better idea of the budget actually available. I feel very relaxed about the business done so far and will not make a judgement about our prospects for a few weeks yet.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 18:58:24 GMT
Genuinely think this is a 50/50 good/bad approach. Suspect it's because we can't just magic up money if we need to make "emergency repairs" in December/January - unless of course we get a decent Cup run (possible I suppose) and/or strike lucky with an outgoing transfer (unlikely) Have you ever considered lower league football might not be for you ? What a joyless individual you are. Crikey! All I do is point out that there are pros and cons to short term contracts and suggest that we're not exactly rolling in cash and I'm " joyless". By nature, I'm actually a positive sort of guy but sometimes a dose of reality is needed. I'm more than content to let things develop naturally over the next few weeks and leave those in charge to it. P.S. I've not seen a "higher league" match live for over 20 years and I much prefer the "lower league" experience |
|
|
|
Post by noddy on May 4, 2017 20:05:59 GMT
On top of releasing top earners, promoting youth team players (whilst very deserved and what we should be doing as a club anyway) and streamlining the coaching staff - all points to one thing. Lack of funds. Even though the budget is being increased? Is that the case? Surely the budget comes down to season ticket sales, unless there is more going on off the field than we know. Any money we get for Sam Hughes may go towards our budget, that is of course dependant on the amount and how much we get up front I'm assuming. |
|
|
|
Post by btb on May 4, 2017 20:15:18 GMT
Positives for me have been the signing of the two forwards and several of the first team squad being signed up early. I do agree with JM that continuity is a good thing although I probably wouldn't have resigned two of those given the choice.
I will however, say I think we have to be amongst the favourites for relegation. We were last season to be fair. But, personally I have lost faith in the manager and his policies.
I'll still be there supporting my team though. I don't get all this, I'm not going next season attitude. We've lived without chester before and I choose having a team over not having one.
|
|
|
|
Post by Firestick Frank on May 4, 2017 20:21:14 GMT
On top of releasing top earners, promoting youth team players (whilst very deserved and what we should be doing as a club anyway) and streamlining the coaching staff - all points to one thing. Lack of funds. Even though the budget is being increased? The evidence doesn't point to that being the case, thus far. Plus we have no clue how mush we're going to get for Hughes and Alabi or even when we're going to get it! No season ticket announcements yet either - and ST's are an easy way to plan your budget. I'm sure "Jon" and "Mark" will tell me I'm wrong though... |
|
|
|
Post by Arrogant Blue on May 4, 2017 20:22:13 GMT
We desperately need two new central midfielders and I pray that McCarthy doesn't do anything stupid and re-sign that waste of space George. I don't like the term "wage thief" but it's apt for him.
Only two left to re-sign are Lynch and Waters (but loaned out to someone like Warrington like Hughes was). The rest can go.
|
|
|
|
Post by soulseal on May 4, 2017 20:34:48 GMT
In Akintunde, White and Bell we already have one more striker than we had for the majority of last season - some would say two more being harsh on Richards.
It's still very early days and we are more likely to get better defenders and midfielders from the released lists of league clubs.
I am pleased that Macca has been decisive so far, he has obviously been following and talking to Bell and White for a while so doing his job through the season.
Ahead of seeing them play I will give him credit for that.
Also I remember how down we were in Hannah leaving last year, but Alabi came good with 17 goals.
|
|
