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Post by nytram on Oct 20, 2022 15:45:49 GMT
Now the Conservative party are in turmoil and infighting should the country sit back and watch this infighting infinitum with all the turmoil to world economics.
No we need to have a General Election.
If Boris Johnson is back I think all opposition MPs stand up when he gets to the ballot box and shout Out Out Out.
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Post by Ian H Block on Oct 20, 2022 16:05:59 GMT
Can’t believe the Tories are still polling at around 22%. To think that these people walk amongst us and some are probably allowed to operate machinery. Absolutely terrifying.
Would be nice if some of the Tory clowns on here could give us a their thoughts (LOL) on who’s going to be next PM.
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Post by Lobster on Oct 20, 2022 19:41:30 GMT
Criticising our government is no longer "being political", it's just having a grip on reality. It is factually correct to say they are appalling.
A Conservative government is simply inoperable. They have made this entirely by themselves and all Labour should have to do to win the next election is sit back and leave them to it.
I see Boris Johnson is third favourite to be the next PM. I really wouldn't put it past him. The man is a menace, a calculating, manipulative little shit.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 20, 2022 19:48:46 GMT
What do Labour offer though? The same policies but with a slightly softer touch and slightly friendlier face.
I’m all in for Anni-fucking-byniaeth.
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Post by Ian H Block on Oct 20, 2022 21:24:57 GMT
What do Labour offer though? The same policies but with a slightly softer touch and slightly friendlier face. I’m all in for Anni-fucking-byniaeth. I agree, they promise very little to address the fundamental problems we face, but I think they can offer a basic level of competence, something lacking in Government for years. |
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Post by Lobster on Oct 20, 2022 21:29:51 GMT
What do Labour offer though? The same policies but with a slightly softer touch and slightly friendlier face. I’m all in for Anni-fucking-byniaeth. I agree, they promise very little to address the fundamental problems we face, but I think they can offer a basic level of competence, something lacking in Government for years. Starmer isn't the PM I want but I think we have to accept that any move to the left is going to be gradual. Also, some Labour MPs are good whereas I don't think any Tory MPs are. |
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Post by Si on Oct 21, 2022 8:12:55 GMT
I actually find the whole thing quite entertaining now. In reality it should be really worrying to be governed by complete fuckwits but it's turned into a comedy show and you wonder what's going to happen next. The fact people are talking about Boris seriously coming back.....that would cap it off, would be absolute lunacy. Labour may not be the perfect alternative, but they are the only viable alternative and god only knows we just need someone different to have a crack at running things.
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Post by Al on Oct 21, 2022 8:20:15 GMT
Need Labour to win a clear majority and then they implement a FPTP voting system. The tories would be dead and buried for a generation.
Would also give rise to some of the other fringe parties in the house of commons, most notably (from the left perspective) the Greens.
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Post by cityboy5705 on Oct 21, 2022 9:52:40 GMT
Jeez what is a general election gonna solve a tranny as pm a Labour leader who didn't punish saville very sad we live in get Ben Wallace in a real decent bloke with principals
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Post by cityboy5705 on Oct 21, 2022 9:53:13 GMT
I agree, they promise very little to address the fundamental problems we face, but I think they can offer a basic level of competence, something lacking in Government for years. Starmer isn't the PM I want but I think we have to accept that any move to the left is going to be gradual. Also, some Labour MPs are good whereas I don't think any Tory MPs are. Ben Wallace only decent Tory |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2022 10:10:42 GMT
Jeez what is a general election gonna solve a tranny as pm a Labour leader who didn't punish saville very sad we live in get Ben Wallace in a real decent bloke with principals I think it’s people like you, with your lack of intelligence, who have contributed to this mess, by voting to keep them in power. I’ll make assumptions, because I can, and guess you’re one of the ‘let’s take our borders back’…. Farage, Johnson and the right Tories have ruined this country. You need educating based on your comments above. Disgusting. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Oct 21, 2022 10:29:44 GMT
Chris Matheson resigning as an MP following allegations of sexual misconduct. By-election imminent.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2022 10:40:00 GMT
Chris Matheson resigning as an MP following allegations of sexual misconduct. By-election imminent. Just read the report and looks like he’s bang to rights. With this in Chester and the weirdo Tory in Delyn, the region isn’t exactly looking great politically…. Hope we get a Green Party winner who’s manifesto included building us a new sustainable ground, making us the Forest Green of the NLN 😂😂 |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 21, 2022 10:46:05 GMT
Aye the Greens (or Plaid in my constituency) are more in tune with my standing these days. Unless Drakey breaks Welsh Labour away from the U.K. party - in which case they’ll have me back.
At least Matheson had the balls to resign unlike that weirdo Tory sex pest in my constituency.
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Post by cityboy5705 on Oct 21, 2022 11:46:00 GMT
Jeez what is a general election gonna solve a tranny as pm a Labour leader who didn't punish saville very sad we live in get Ben Wallace in a real decent bloke with principals I think it’s people like you, with your lack of intelligence, who have contributed to this mess, by voting to keep them in power. I’ll make assumptions, because I can, and guess you’re one of the ‘let’s take our borders back’…. Farage, Johnson and the right Tories have ruined this country. You need educating based on your comments above. Disgusting. certain things wrong with that statement never voted Tory in my life I voted remain not that is any of your business how I vote will not vote labour though again whilst the clown starmer a man who didn't prosecute paedoes is in charge and penny mourdaunt looks like a bloke a throwaway comment you know nothing about me I'm as left wing as Craig mahon |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2022 12:03:01 GMT
I think it’s people like you, with your lack of intelligence, who have contributed to this mess, by voting to keep them in power. I’ll make assumptions, because I can, and guess you’re one of the ‘let’s take our borders back’…. Farage, Johnson and the right Tories have ruined this country. You need educating based on your comments above. Disgusting. certain things wrong with that statement never voted Tory in my life I voted remain not that is any of your business how I vote will not vote labour though again whilst the clown starmer a man who didn't prosecute paedoes is in charge and penny mourdaunt looks like a bloke a throwaway comment you know nothing about me I'm as left wing as Craig mahon 1) you don’t understand the role of attorney general nor that of a barrister. 2) you can’t refer to ANY woman as a ‘tranny’ or ‘looks like a bloke’ - these comments are unacceptable. I volunteer on a diversity and inclusion board outside my job to encourage women into our line of work. Unfortunately it’s people like you they need to fight against every day. Admins - how can comments like this not be removed? |
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Post by cityboy5705 on Oct 21, 2022 12:08:45 GMT
certain things wrong with that statement never voted Tory in my life I voted remain not that is any of your business how I vote will not vote labour though again whilst the clown starmer a man who didn't prosecute paedoes is in charge and penny mourdaunt looks like a bloke a throwaway comment you know nothing about me I'm as left wing as Craig mahon 1) you don’t understand the role of attorney general nor that of a barrister. 2) you can’t refer to ANY woman as a ‘tranny’ or ‘looks like a bloke’ - these comments are unacceptable. I volunteer on a diversity and inclusion board outside my job to encourage women into our line of work. Unfortunately it’s people like you they need to fight against every day. Admins - how can comments like this not be removed? ok apologize for my penny mourdaunt comment but don't apologize for what I say about starmer who as director of public prosecution had the evidence about saville Roy hattersley Rotherham and never prosecuted I admire your job and I am sorry for what I said but you say sorry for accusing me of voting Brexit and Tory two things I have never done |
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Post by Si on Oct 21, 2022 12:12:44 GMT
certain things wrong with that statement never voted Tory in my life I voted remain not that is any of your business how I vote will not vote labour though again whilst the clown starmer a man who didn't prosecute paedoes is in charge and penny mourdaunt looks like a bloke a throwaway comment you know nothing about me I'm as left wing as Craig mahon 1) you don’t understand the role of attorney general nor that of a barrister. 2) you can’t refer to ANY woman as a ‘tranny’ or ‘looks like a bloke’ - these comments are unacceptable. I volunteer on a diversity and inclusion board outside my job to encourage women into our line of work. Unfortunately it’s people like you they need to fight against every day. Admins - how can comments like this not be removed? Considered it, but happy enough to leave it there now that the apology is above for certain comments made. |
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Post by cityboy5705 on Oct 21, 2022 12:19:10 GMT
1) you don’t understand the role of attorney general nor that of a barrister. 2) you can’t refer to ANY woman as a ‘tranny’ or ‘looks like a bloke’ - these comments are unacceptable. I volunteer on a diversity and inclusion board outside my job to encourage women into our line of work. Unfortunately it’s people like you they need to fight against every day. Admins - how can comments like this not be removed? Considered it, but happy enough to leave it there now that the apology is above for certain comments made. I don't think before I speak I understand that but why am I the bad guy he accused me of voting Tory now that is slander but I apologize |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 21, 2022 12:33:55 GMT
Considered it, but happy enough to leave it there now that the apology is above for certain comments made. I don't think before I speak I understand that but why am I the bad guy he accused me of voting Tory now that is slander but I apologize True enough - that accusation is the lowest of the low 😂 |
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Post by utb on Oct 21, 2022 12:45:13 GMT
This will be very interesting. Chester has obviously changed dramatically in the past 20 years or so. Now it's massively student populated which has helped crippled the previous Tory control in the city. However, the Tories have still managed to gain over 20k votes here in each of the last three general elections. Chester voters are also notorious for not playing by the book, like when they kicked Mosley out for Matheson despite a national Tory majority.
Matheson garnered a huge personal vote in Chester (I know people who hated Corbyn, but voted Labour anyway at the GE purely for Matheson, because he was an excellent local MP for them). So if Labour want the seat back, they'll need to choose a candidate very carefully because if they try and parachute some outsider in not willing to get his boots on the ground like the Tories did in 2019, then they could easily lose. You'd imagine this will be the first By-election following the appointment of a new PM so the Tories will be targeting this seat big time.
In a way, it's quite exciting actually that the people of Chester will be the first in the entire country to express their political opinions in terms of a serious vote since s**t started hitting the fan. The eyes of the nation will be on us.
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Post by cityboy5705 on Oct 21, 2022 12:48:08 GMT
This will be very interesting. Chester has obviously changed dramatically in the past 20 years or so. Now it's massively student populated which has helped crippled the previous Tory control in the city. However, the Tories have still managed to gain over 20k votes here in each of the last three general elections. Chester voters are also notorious for not playing by the book, like when they kicked Mosley out for Matheson despite a national Tory majority. Matheson garnered a huge personal vote in Chester (I know people who hated Corbyn, but voted Labour anyway at the GE purely for Matheson, because he was an excellent local MP for them). So if Labour want the seat back, they'll need to choose a candidate very carefully because if they try and parachute some outsider in not willing to get his boots on the ground like the Tories did in 2019, then they could easily lose. You'd imagine this will be the first By-election following the appointment of a new PM so the Tories will be targeting this seat big time. In a way, it's quite exciting actually that the people of Chester will be the first in the entire country to express their political opinions in terms of a serious vote since s**t started hitting the fan. The eyes of the nation will be on us. what was his majority |
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Post by cityboy5705 on Oct 21, 2022 12:49:24 GMT
Always felt matherson could of led labour looked one of the few alright politicians must be a blow to labour that though
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2022 12:51:00 GMT
1) you don’t understand the role of attorney general nor that of a barrister. 2) you can’t refer to ANY woman as a ‘tranny’ or ‘looks like a bloke’ - these comments are unacceptable. I volunteer on a diversity and inclusion board outside my job to encourage women into our line of work. Unfortunately it’s people like you they need to fight against every day. Admins - how can comments like this not be removed? Considered it, but happy enough to leave it there now that the apology is above for certain comments made. Understand, but people should think before they speak, find that excuse a cop out. We have a female general manager in an industry dominated by white, middle aged men. Not a good look on a fans forum linked to the club that these comments, degrading a woman’s appearance, are allowed to stand. And no, I’m far, far from a Tory and understand that is the lowest insult to anyone. |
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Post by utb on Oct 21, 2022 13:05:03 GMT
This will be very interesting. Chester has obviously changed dramatically in the past 20 years or so. Now it's massively student populated which has helped crippled the previous Tory control in the city. However, the Tories have still managed to gain over 20k votes here in each of the last three general elections. Chester voters are also notorious for not playing by the book, like when they kicked Mosley out for Matheson despite a national Tory majority. Matheson garnered a huge personal vote in Chester (I know people who hated Corbyn, but voted Labour anyway at the GE purely for Matheson, because he was an excellent local MP for them). So if Labour want the seat back, they'll need to choose a candidate very carefully because if they try and parachute some outsider in not willing to get his boots on the ground like the Tories did in 2019, then they could easily lose. You'd imagine this will be the first By-election following the appointment of a new PM so the Tories will be targeting this seat big time. In a way, it's quite exciting actually that the people of Chester will be the first in the entire country to express their political opinions in terms of a serious vote since s**t started hitting the fan. The eyes of the nation will be on us. what was his majority 6k. Won it by 93 votes in 2015 when the Tories swept the board nationally. Increased it to 9k, then saw it cut in the 2019 bloodbath. It's a blow to Chester because for all intents and purposes he was a good, popular MP for us. But obviously he had to go. |
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Post by Moltisanti on Oct 21, 2022 18:15:59 GMT
Jeez what is a general election gonna solve a tranny as pm a Labour leader who didn't punish saville very sad we live in get Ben Wallace in a real decent bloke with principals You clearly know less about politics than you do about football, judging by the shite you post on here. Thick as mince. |
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Post by Lobster on Oct 21, 2022 18:22:33 GMT
I actually find the whole thing quite entertaining now. In reality it should be really worrying to be governed by complete fuckwits but it's turned into a comedy show and you wonder what's going to happen next. The fact people are talking about Boris seriously coming back.....that would cap it off, would be absolute lunacy. Labour may not be the perfect alternative, but they are the only viable alternative and god only knows we just need someone different to have a crack at running things. Ever since Partygate the whole thing has been very funny and entertaining. It's like watching villains get their comeuppance. |
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Post by Moltisanti on Oct 21, 2022 18:28:30 GMT
1) you don’t understand the role of attorney general nor that of a barrister. 2) you can’t refer to ANY woman as a ‘tranny’ or ‘looks like a bloke’ - these comments are unacceptable. I volunteer on a diversity and inclusion board outside my job to encourage women into our line of work. Unfortunately it’s people like you they need to fight against every day. Admins - how can comments like this not be removed? ok apologize for my penny mourdaunt comment but don't apologize for what I say about starmer who as director of public prosecution had the evidence about saville Roy hattersley Rotherham and never prosecuted I admire your job and I am sorry for what I said but you say sorry for accusing me of voting Brexit and Tory two things I have never done The allegations against Savile were dealt with by local police and a reviewing lawyer for the CPS. “ An official investigation commissioned later by Starmer criticised both prosecutors and police for their handling of the allegations.” Don’t listen to the media all the time. Actually do your research. |
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Post by Lobster on Oct 21, 2022 19:49:11 GMT
Just watching old Top of the Pops on BBC4 and M People were on with Movin On Up. Brilliant timing!
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Post by cityboy5705 on Oct 21, 2022 21:46:51 GMT
Just watching old Top of the Pops on BBC4 and M People were on with Movin On Up. Brilliant timing! great song that although did prefer the other m people song search for the hero didn't Liz play that song recently |
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