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Post by devamug72 on Nov 23, 2023 10:17:13 GMT
But why abstain, is what I mean? If they're threatening to sack other MPs for siding with the motion, why didn't they vote against it? How fucked in the head do you have to be to either vote against or not vote at all when it comes to genocide and mass slaughter of thousands of babies. Scary who runs (and wants to run) our country. And one of them literally walks amongst us lot. Yeah, I suppose Israel built those tunnels under the hospital didn't they? Funnelled all the billions given Hamas by the likes of the EU, to better the lives of the Palestinians, into building them as well. You are a fucking idiot |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 23, 2023 10:29:48 GMT
Israel did indeed build the bunkers and tunnels under the hospital, you fucking mug. Former Israel PM Ehud Barak let this slip in an interview on Monday.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 23, 2023 11:01:12 GMT
I'm still voting Labour as things stand as my MP, Margaret Greenwood (Wirral West), was one of the 50-odd who voted in favour of the ceasefire and she tends to reflect my views on most matters. If she gets sacked and some Starmer stooge takes her place, I'll vote for someone else. It is rumoured she's standing down before the next election anyway.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 23, 2023 13:42:04 GMT
You’d think that a country killing journalists would get worse press.
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Post by 1paulcarden on Nov 24, 2023 21:26:25 GMT
If people like Frank are getting hysterical about Labour then that tends to be good news for the state of the country. Means his boys in power are about cooked.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 24, 2023 21:37:25 GMT
If people like Frank are getting hysterical about Labour then that tends to be good news for the state of the country. Means his boys in power are about cooked. Oh I’m sorry, I don’t support killing thousands of babies. Says more about you than it does me. Scary and dangerous how some of you who champion bombing hospitals support our club. Grownups are back in charge aren’t they? Proper grownup that - supporting the murder of thousands of innocent babies and demanding the sick and disabled find work. That’s before I start on the party heirarchy kicking brown people and Jews out of the party too. Is racism and antisemitism “grownup” now is it? Disgusting how you refer to my dislike for people cheering the mass murderer of babies and targeting the sick and disabled as “hysterics”. Shows what kind of person you are. |
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Post by 1paulcarden on Nov 25, 2023 9:34:08 GMT
If people like Frank are getting hysterical about Labour then that tends to be good news for the state of the country. Means his boys in power are about cooked. Oh I’m sorry, I don’t support killing thousands of babies. Says more about you than it does me. Scary and dangerous how some of you who champion bombing hospitals support our club. Grownups are back in charge aren’t they? Proper grownup that - supporting the murder of thousands of innocent babies and demanding the sick and disabled find work. That’s before I start on the party heirarchy kicking brown people and Jews out of the party too. Is racism and antisemitism “grownup” now is it? Disgusting how you refer to my dislike for people cheering the mass murderer of babies and targeting the sick and disabled as “hysterics”. Shows what kind of person you are. If you think an SNP amendment abstained on by UK government’s OPPOSITION is going to make one jot of difference to the horrific loss of civilian lives then you really do live in cloud cuckoo land. I think the fact that Hamas’ attacks were on Putin’s birthday after they received millions of dollars from a Moscow based crypto exchange would suggest the Kremlin could be responsible for more than just Ukraine. |
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Post by devamug72 on Nov 25, 2023 22:22:16 GMT
Israel did indeed build the bunkers and tunnels under the hospital, you fucking mug. Former Israel PM Ehud Barak let this slip in an interview on Monday. Say that to my face next home game you fuxking spastic, that is if you can find your way from H-block which you'd include in your forum name like your Mum puts in your fuxking pants so you don't lose them. I wouldn't be surprised if you'd choke yourself on the cord that connects your mittens your sad fucking twat. |
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Post by devamug72 on Nov 25, 2023 22:31:14 GMT
I'll be my the bar at the right hand side of Blues Bar if you fancy me slapping your silly you fucking soft cunt
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Post by Lobster on Nov 25, 2023 23:22:46 GMT
I'll be my the bar at the right hand side of Blues Bar if you fancy me slapping your silly you fucking soft cunt Take a look four posts up and you started the abuse ("fucking idiot"). We can debate this without all this name calling and "say it to my face" shit. That goes not just for you but everyone on this thread, by the way. |
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Post by Lobster on Nov 25, 2023 23:26:54 GMT
Oh I’m sorry, I don’t support killing thousands of babies. Says more about you than it does me. Scary and dangerous how some of you who champion bombing hospitals support our club. Grownups are back in charge aren’t they? Proper grownup that - supporting the murder of thousands of innocent babies and demanding the sick and disabled find work. That’s before I start on the party heirarchy kicking brown people and Jews out of the party too. Is racism and antisemitism “grownup” now is it? Disgusting how you refer to my dislike for people cheering the mass murderer of babies and targeting the sick and disabled as “hysterics”. Shows what kind of person you are. If you think an SNP amendment abstained on by UK government’s OPPOSITION is going to make one jot of difference to the horrific loss of civilian lives then you really do live in cloud cuckoo land. I think the fact that Hamas’ attacks were on Putin’s birthday after they received millions of dollars from a Moscow based crypto exchange would suggest the Kremlin could be responsible for more than just Ukraine. Surely whether or not it makes any difference is irrelevant? The vote was an opportunity for all MPs to show where they stand on the issue. Most Labour MPs ducked out of it. Also the Hamas/Kremlin thing seems a bit reminiscent of Bush and his "axis of evil" to me, when he implied unrelated atrocities were all committed by the same groups of "evil-doers". This logic was ultimately used to justify the unnecessary invasion of Iraq. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Nov 26, 2023 5:58:03 GMT
I'll be my the bar at the right hand side of Blues Bar if you fancy me slapping your silly you fucking soft cunt What language is this, gibberish? |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 26, 2023 7:58:19 GMT
I'll be my the bar at the right hand side of Blues Bar if you fancy me slapping your silly you fucking soft cunt Take a look four posts up and you started the abuse ("fucking idiot"). We can debate this without all this name calling and "say it to my face" shit. That goes not just for you but everyone on this thread, by the way. It’s his absolutely bonkers massive reaction to a criticism of Israel, too, which I find really strange. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 26, 2023 8:01:29 GMT
If you think an SNP amendment abstained on by UK government’s OPPOSITION is going to make one jot of difference to the horrific loss of civilian lives then you really do live in cloud cuckoo land. I think the fact that Hamas’ attacks were on Putin’s birthday after they received millions of dollars from a Moscow based crypto exchange would suggest the Kremlin could be responsible for more than just Ukraine. Surely whether or not it makes any difference is irrelevant? The vote was an opportunity for all MPs to show where they stand on the issue. Most Labour MPs ducked out of it. Also the Hamas/Kremlin thing seems a bit reminiscent of Bush and his "axis of evil" to me, when he implied unrelated atrocities were all committed by the same groups of "evil-doers". This logic was ultimately used to justify the unnecessary invasion of Iraq. Yep, you can see the road we’re going down now with this. The same rhetoric. Funny how nobody has mentioned the same stuff going on in the West Bank where Hamas are not active. It’s an invasion, occupation, landgrab and genocide - pure and simple. As you say, the vote was a perfect opportunity for MPs to show their moral compass. Starmer has proven he doesn’t have a moral compass, he has a weather vane pointing to wherever his donors tell him to. |
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Post by Lobster on Dec 3, 2023 9:34:41 GMT
Starmer now praising Thatcher. ☹️
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Post by Ian H Block on Dec 3, 2023 10:02:34 GMT
Starmer now praising Thatcher. ☹️ The man is a Tory Trojan Horse. |
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Post by Moltisanti on Dec 3, 2023 10:06:40 GMT
Starmer now praising Thatcher. ☹️ Just lost my vote if that’s the case. |
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Post by lincolnexile on Dec 3, 2023 11:47:23 GMT
Starmer now praising Thatcher. ☹️ You've really got to wonder what is going on in this blokes head. Praising Thatcher is one way of maybe getting wavouring tories to change allegiance but unfortunately he will alienate the majority of Labour supporters at the same time. How does he survive as leader of Labour when he comes over as so Tory? |
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Post by Lobster on Dec 3, 2023 12:04:11 GMT
I think he's gambling on traditional Labour voters voting Labour anyway, and wooing Tory voters by just saying what they want to hear.
It's at best insincere, at worst ideologically clueless. His job is easy at the moment and he doesn't need to act like this.
Dare I say it, I almost want it to backfire now and the Tories to stay in, which is depressing as hell.
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Post by lincolnexile on Dec 3, 2023 12:25:04 GMT
I think he's gambling on traditional Labour voters voting Labour anyway, and wooing Tory voters by just saying what they want to hear. It's at best insincere, at worst ideologically clueless. His job is easy at the moment and he doesn't need to act like this. Dare I say it, I almost want it to backfire now and the Tories to stay in, which is depressing as hell. There's no doubt that a lot of Tories will be looking for someone else to vote for, but it's not going to be Labour under Starmer surely? You can see a large number changing allegiance to the Liberal Democrats more as a protest vote than anything else. The Liberal Democrats really are a nothing party though. They seem quite content to sit in the background keeping quiet and saying nothing that might upset anyone, just picking up votes in by-elections by de-fault. Then getting a little bit of power by forming a coalition with one of the parties when neither raises enough support for a big enough majority. |
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Post by Ian H Block on Dec 3, 2023 13:53:54 GMT
I think he's gambling on traditional Labour voters voting Labour anyway, and wooing Tory voters by just saying what they want to hear. It's at best insincere, at worst ideologically clueless. His job is easy at the moment and he doesn't need to act like this. Dare I say it, I almost want it to backfire now and the Tories to stay in, which is depressing as hell. I’m a traditional Labour voter and he’s lost my vote. |
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Post by Lobster on Dec 3, 2023 13:56:48 GMT
I think he's gambling on traditional Labour voters voting Labour anyway, and wooing Tory voters by just saying what they want to hear. It's at best insincere, at worst ideologically clueless. His job is easy at the moment and he doesn't need to act like this. Dare I say it, I almost want it to backfire now and the Tories to stay in, which is depressing as hell. I’m a traditional Labour voter and he’s lost my vote. Mine's hanging by a thread. As I said earlier, if my MP does stand down before the election as rumoured, it will probably go to the Greens. I'm not a huge fan of them either though, thought they lost the plot during the Brexit fallout. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Dec 3, 2023 14:01:29 GMT
I think he's gambling on traditional Labour voters voting Labour anyway, and wooing Tory voters by just saying what they want to hear. It's at best insincere, at worst ideologically clueless. His job is easy at the moment and he doesn't need to act like this. Dare I say it, I almost want it to backfire now and the Tories to stay in, which is depressing as hell. I’m a traditional Labour voter and he’s lost my vote. I’m the same and he lost it about two years ago. Voted Labour all my life but sick of being told we’ve got the keep the Tories out - especially now, when there’s literally no difference between the two parties anymore. Go Green. |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Dec 4, 2023 21:22:41 GMT
Starmer is rivalled in dishonesty only by Boris Johnson, and has none of the charisma or ambition of Blair. Despite that, he's going to win the next election by default, not that he'll be doing it with my vote. My conscience will remain clean whilst that deeply dishonourable and dangerous authoritarian wrecks havoc on this country (and probably one or two in the Middle East, if he's given half the chance).
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Post by avfo on Dec 24, 2023 1:30:54 GMT
Home Secretary James Cleverly joked about spiking his wife’s drink with a date rape drug in comments made at a Downing Street reception. Mr Cleverly’s remarks came just hours after his Home Office announced plans to crack down on spiking.
He told female guests at the reception that “a little bit of Rohypnol in her drink every night was not really illegal if it’s only a little bit”, and that "the secret to a long marriage was ensuring your spouse was someone who is always mildly sedated so she can never realise there are better men out there”.
A spokesman for the Home Secretary said: “In what was always understood as a private conversation, James, the Home Secretary, tackling spiking made what was clearly meant to be an ironic joke – for which he apologises.”
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Post by Lobster on Dec 24, 2023 11:26:16 GMT
James Stupidly is like Alan Partridge. Just can't stop putting his foot in it.
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Post by kevlar on Jan 11, 2024 11:23:03 GMT
Lots of twitchy bums in government over the subpostmaster ‘inquiry’ with a general election looming
wonder who's next to give back their supporting cronyism award over this sorry mess
Dame Moya Green?
reputedly earned a 3.4 million bonus for separating Royal Mail from the post office back in 2012 and spent £100,000s on lawyers, allegedly,to keep her name out of the ITV docuseries.
ITV also deny a cover-up over the absence of mentioning a certain Mr Crozier who following his tenure at the Royal Mail spent some years as their chief exec….hmmm
snouts in the trough at its finest
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Post by Lobster on Jan 11, 2024 15:10:24 GMT
What I don't get about this Post Office scandal is how we're all these people actually found guilty? Did nobody think the numbers of supposed cases of fraud were a bit strange?
The Post Office may have prosecuted them, but surely it's the courts' job to determine whether they did it or not, and it seems they got that wrong over 700 times.
The enquiry should go way beyond the Post Office, I think. They're just the start of the problem.
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Post by Lon on Jan 11, 2024 19:03:06 GMT
What I don't get about this Post Office scandal is how we're all these people actually found guilty? Did nobody think the numbers of supposed cases of fraud were a bit strange? The Post Office may have prosecuted them, but surely it's the courts' job to determine whether they did it or not, and it seems they got that wrong over 700 times. The enquiry should go way beyond the Post Office, I think. They're just the start of the problem. A lot plead guilty in the hope of not receiving a custodial sentence and were hounded into doing so by investigators working for the post office. Funnily enough these investigators had no clue about other investigations taking place and had no clue about computers either so never even thought of a computer system glitching. It is probably likely that management at Fujitsu and/or post office knew about this glitch and covered it up at first but the issue became too widespread |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jan 12, 2024 12:18:31 GMT
YAY! MORE BOMBS AND DEAD MIDDLE EASTERN KIDS!!
And the reason? Checks notes… Yemen don’t want Israel to continue genocide.
So glad the grown-ups are back in charge!! 🥰🥰 🥰🥰
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