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Post by dmcnally on Sept 9, 2017 9:55:27 GMT
At the end of the day this is a results business as JM found out to his cost. You can make all the appearances you like at Senior Blues meetings and kids soccer schools, but if the results on the pitch aren't good enough then I'm afraid the whole football club suffers. Our lifeblood, fundamentally, is the performance of the first team as the gate receipts and sponsorships linked to that are what keep us sustainable. Now, whoever comes in needs to recognise the importance of our community efforts. It is vital that they are supportive of them but their ability to commit heavily to being part of them should not be part of the selection criteria. I would rather a manager and players with a bit of a nasty streak, who are successful on the pitch, than a lovely man who makes appearances and says all the right things but is ultimately unsuccessful in gaining results. Clearly there is a limit to that as well (you wouldn't want Steve Evans for instance) but it's about striking a balance. This. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 10:01:43 GMT
At the end of the day this is a results business as JM found out to his cost. You can make all the appearances you like at Senior Blues meetings and kids soccer schools, but if the results on the pitch aren't good enough then I'm afraid the whole football club suffers. Our lifeblood, fundamentally, is the performance of the first team as the gate receipts and sponsorships linked to that are what keep us sustainable. Now, whoever comes in needs to recognise the importance of our community efforts. It is vital that they are supportive of them but their ability to commit heavily to being part of them should not be part of the selection criteria. I would rather a manager and players with a bit of a nasty streak, who are successful on the pitch, than a lovely man who makes appearances and says all the right things but is ultimately unsuccessful in gaining results. Clearly there is a limit to that as well (you wouldn't want Steve Evans for instance) but it's about striking a balance. Agreed, that's why the board has a tough and thankless task ahead but it's what we ideally should be aiming for |
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Post by superman on Sept 9, 2017 10:28:37 GMT
Whoever comes in is unlikely to have universal approval from our fan base although on past form the anti's will probably say nothing until we lose a match. Whilst I have my preferred candidates based on their past records, I wish whoever gets the job all the luck and time to get things right. We can't expect overnight transformation and we may need up to half a season to see real progress, hopefully we will not be too much in the doo doo by then. As I have posted before my preferred options, unlikely as they may be, are Morrell and Edinburgh. Have an uneasy feeling about Bignot who despite what a lot of people have been saying has only limited experience at Conference National. If he gets the job however he will have my full support and not just for the honeymoon period. As quite a few people have said, whoever gets the job needs to concentrate first and for most on the first team and leave the rest to others who are doing a great job already.
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Post by rcb on Sept 9, 2017 11:37:31 GMT
As I see things, Chester are not in a financial position to pay compensation to another club for their manager or assistant, so we will only be able to shortlist people who can "walk away" from any current commitments. Iwelumo, for example couldn't or wouldn't walk away from his media commitments. Whoever gets the job will have to give 100% immediately due to the current position of the club. Living close to the club is a must, and who is going to make this commitment for a possible short term contract?
Anyone asking for, or expecting a long contract is an immediate no no. We just can't afford that, and we will have to risk losing a high quality manager if they are very successful. That's just how it needs to be.
A contract until the end of the season with a one year extension based on preset targets is a maximum. Probably only 5 or 6 who meet the above, together with the stipulations within the advert, so shortlisting will be easy. This time the Board need to be set up for the interview process correctly, know what to look for, and not be dazzled by wonderful presentations and people able to impress with fabulous smooth talk, because the game is played on grass outside, not on paper in a boardroom. This is not a criticism of the board who, like us want the best for the club, but they are not football experts. Hiring the services of a highly regarded football consultant to assist in the selection process would be money well spent. Before anyone mentions Maguire, no he isn't a football expert either.
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Post by exiled on Sept 9, 2017 13:37:23 GMT
One of the common complaints is how he dismantled the side to suit his own needs, favourites who helped them achieve promotion shown the door. It’s actually what a lot of our fans continually post about on here though, to see the players in the side that many just don’t regard to being up to this level being moved on. Also seemed to chop and change a bit, although Grimsby were in a safe enough position for him to do so. I’m struggling to have a firm opinion myself, not sure who I want. Depending on if he’s applied I do think we’ll end up appointing Brabin though. I'm certainly in the unsure camp after reading that thread. There were rumours of players refusing to sign contracts etc if he stayed. Sounds like a Burr clone. I really hope we don't get Brabin. He really isn't the right man for a "family friendly community" club, is he? As we try to promote ourselves. He also signs a bunch of thugs as well. Just look at the collection of players that Tranmere have. After saying that we probably wouldn't get relegated with him here. Not sure you can say that with much confidence about a few of the candidates. How we don't fall for the smoothest confident interview candidate, rather than the best manager. This is what I'm thinking. Also put me in the not sure camp after reading their forum |
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Post by thetheremin on Sept 10, 2017 17:35:37 GMT
More of a long term project but wondering if any of Harry McNallys DNA still exists. We could make a clone of him. Me and the wife would be happy to adopt the clone and bring him up the right way. He'll be ready in approx the year 2060.
Can we crowdfund it?
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 10, 2017 23:03:26 GMT
More of a long term project but wondering if any of Harry McNallys DNA still exists. We could make a clone of him. Me and the wife would be happy to adopt the clone and bring him up the right way. He'll be ready in approx the year 2060. Can we crowdfund it? My surname is McNally if that helps? And I have a brother called Harry. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 10:55:12 GMT
brabin has ruled himself out of the running
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Post by billyw on Sept 11, 2017 11:45:17 GMT
brabin has ruled himself out of the running Scource ? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 11:46:24 GMT
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Post by billyw on Sept 11, 2017 11:57:26 GMT
Cheers, shows what a load of bol---ks the bookies odds are. David Powell reports that an 'interesting name' is set to apply. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 12:03:38 GMT
that is understood to be Kevin Davies he's just tweeted it
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Post by iandychesterfc on Sept 11, 2017 12:48:45 GMT
Bignot has to be the out and out favourite now Brabin has pulled out. Barrow won't fancy it, Moore doesnt respect us enough to apply and the rest don't have the requisite experience
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Post by Al on Sept 11, 2017 12:51:15 GMT
Bignot has to be the out and out favourite now Brabin has pulled out. Barrow won't fancy it, Moore doesnt respect us enough to apply and the rest don't have the requisite experience So in that case - in true Chester style - it'll be that Higgins joker on a 2 year deal |
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 11, 2017 13:07:59 GMT
Bignot has to be the out and out favourite now Brabin has pulled out. Barrow won't fancy it, Moore doesnt respect us enough to apply and the rest don't have the requisite experience You can't blame Brabin for not being interested. He left a 3 year contract at Everton to take over at Tranmere and now he's got a good position at Sunderland. Once bitten twice shy. |
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Post by Rio Doherty on Sept 11, 2017 16:03:26 GMT
Apparently Dave Bell has applied.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 11, 2017 16:14:02 GMT
Will he be bringing Clive Goodyear along? I had a few drinks with them two in Bar Lounge a few years back when they were then-caretaker managers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 16:15:15 GMT
someone has had a few quid on Barrow now been installed favourite
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Post by Wortleyblue on Sept 11, 2017 17:26:05 GMT
Apparently Dave Bell has applied. Is that the Dave Bell currentley managing Corby Town in the Northern Premier League Div 1 South. If it is too big a step up maybe? |
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 11, 2017 17:29:33 GMT
Apparently Dave Bell has applied. Who is Dave Bell? |
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Post by Rio Doherty on Sept 11, 2017 17:44:41 GMT
Apparently Dave Bell has applied. Who is Dave Bell? I don't know who he is. I heard it off a fellow Chester fan, which is why I said ''apparently''. |
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Post by billyw on Sept 11, 2017 18:05:02 GMT
Apparently Dave Bell has applied. Is that the Dave Bell currentley managing Corby Town in the Northern Premier League Div 1 South. If it is too big a step up maybe? Probably, Unless it is the Dave Bell who was our caretaker manager years ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 18:21:09 GMT
Charlie Croasdale @croasdaleleader 3m3 minutes ago
Understand that Ronnie Moore is interested in the Chester job & will contact the club ahead of Wednesday's application deadline
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 19:15:47 GMT
Is that the Dave Bell currentley managing Corby Town in the Northern Premier League Div 1 South. If it is too big a step up maybe? Probably, Unless it is the Dave Bell who was our caretaker manager years ago. caretaker manager in the rush era |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 11, 2017 19:19:20 GMT
Aye Dave Bell and Clive Goodyear were already on the coaching staff when Mark Aizlewood was sacked, forcing Ian Rush's resignation. Bell and Goodyear had a couple of games in caretaker charge.
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Post by sealking on Sept 11, 2017 19:25:52 GMT
From what I've been told by people who know him that andy holden has applied...there is numerous names being thrown about can't wait for it to be done
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Post by bluetartan on Sept 11, 2017 19:38:28 GMT
Iain Jenkins has applied for the position. Was a great defender and servant to this club and a former N.Ireland international, hall of fame inductee and totally loves this club. He's a grade A coach currently with the SFA. Has been a manager of a number of junior football teams then assistant to Danny Lennon at both Cowdenbeath then St Mirren until taking up his role with the SFA.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 12, 2017 7:06:50 GMT
Don't understand why all these highly rated potential managers want to work at a basket case like us.
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Post by Woody on Sept 12, 2017 8:40:12 GMT
From what I've been told by people who know him that andy holden has applied...there is numerous names being thrown about can't wait for it to be done I certainly hope he has. I have heard many great things off two of my colleagues in the north sea about Andy Holden, they are members of the official Hibs supporters club and certainly hold him in high regard with the time he spent at Hibs, meeting fans and more importantly the style of football they played and encouragingly the young players that developed under his coaching tenure. Also not forgetting the Scottish Cup they won after a 114year.
Maybe this is the man to get us up the league, a good cup run not break our budget and pass on his 20years plus coaching experience.... including a genuine affiliation with the club for those who can remember him in the mid 80's. Ticks a lot of boxes.
Local candidate and knows the area Ex club captain and player. Experienced coach and manager. Won trophies as a manager with Hibs Scottish cup and reserve and youth cups with Everton, regarded highly enough to become part of the matchday management team at Everton. He would certainly be my choice.
Andy Andy Holden...... Andy Andy Holden a great song on the old Sealand Road End.
Not sure many of our other candidates can produce a similar standard of CV.
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Post by Imperial on Sept 12, 2017 9:19:03 GMT
I really like the sound of him too. He was before my time but I like the idea of having someone with club connections, who's local etc & he's got the experience we so desperately need.
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